gottalovepluto
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... so how ‘bout those Universal hotel closures?
oh! Real q- are guests being moved or just straight up cancelled?
oh! Real q- are guests being moved or just straight up cancelled?
For some reason this news is so upsetting to me.
We learned in Chicago that 5,000 of our restaurants will be closed permanently. 5,000.
I saw some people saying they were able to move to Hard Rock and someone else moved to Cabana Bay so it looks like they have space to accommodate guests elsewhere... so how ‘bout those Universal hotel closures?
oh! Real q- are guests being moved or just straight up cancelled?
I think you're referring to the prediction of 5,000 restaurants in the entire state of Illinois closing due to the pandemic - quite a difference to just Chicago (and it's a prediction, not reality yet. https://www.chicagotribune.com/coro...0200812-5lgjy3vosvgrzbpt6l24um55z4-story.html
Can I ask how we know or why we're so sure they're not increasing capacity.Exactly, they're not increasing capacity yet. That’s just a case of a phone CM talking crazy talk.
I think if they were increasing capacity they wouldn't be cutting hours.Can I ask how we know or why we're so sure they're not increasing capacity.
I'd love to think that; but I think money has way more to do with it than anything else.I think if they were increasing capacity they wouldn't be cutting hours.
I think for one thing they aren't even filling it up with the capacity they currently have set. On most days they still have plenty of availability in almost all parks (sometimes not HS) for both general admission and resort guests, the only "bucket" that fills up on the daily is APs. It doesn't make sense to up capacity, nor does it matter if they do, when they aren't even getting enough people in to fill up all the categories of park passes.Can I ask how we know or why we're so sure they're not increasing capacity.
I think for one thing they aren't even filling it up with the capacity they currently have set. On most days they still have plenty of availability in almost all parks (sometimes not HS) for both general admission and resort guests, the only "bucket" that fills up on the daily is APs. It doesn't make sense to up capacity, nor does it matter if they do, when they aren't even getting enough people in to fill up all the categories of park passes.
I was just saying it doesn't matter if they do because they aren't even meeting their set capacity as it is right now. We wouldn't even know if they did at this point, that's all I was saying, it's a moot point.I dont understand why they need to fill the buckets before increasing capacity? If they increase capacity tomorrow, it wont matter until people come, as you stated. They’ll increase capacity when theyre ready and approved to, I doubt theyre going to wait until the buckets fill up. They’re not going to announce theyre raising capacity either, it’ll just happen one day.
I’m sure APs would be happy if they increased capacity, especially since they can now only go to 3 parks until mid-September
I was just saying it doesn't matter if they do because they aren't even meeting their set capacity as it is right now. We wouldn't even know if they did at this point, that's all I was saying, it's a moot point.
The cost of increasing capacity is more important though. If they increase capacity that would mean they need to probably add more hours to the parks and bring back more CM'S. Judging by not just what Disney is doing but Universal with then closing hotels, financially it doesn't make sense.It does kind of matter though. APs (locals, mostly) aren’t exactly happy about the bucket situation. So if capacity were to increase, it would at least give them a chance to get a couple extra DHS days rather than using one or more of their three days a month from now.
Technically you are right, theyre not hitting capacity at the other 3 parks, so adding capacity wouldn’t matter. But why wait until the buckets fill up at every park until you increase capacity? We could be looking at Spring 2021 until they hit capacity at the non-DHS parks. So theyre not going to increase the capacity until then? Just because they increase it doesn’t mean they need to fill it. Its an extra cushion just in case they see a sudden pop in attendance.
All of this is irrelevant since Florida still hasn’t made it to a point where increasing capacity is wise.
But Disney also wants to bring in people who spend more money (rooms, tickets, all/most of their meals), if the parks start filling up and getting more full/crowded then a lot of people are going to feel super uncomfortable coming. They know people will only go if they feel safe, and a more "full" park doesn't scream safety to most people. If people don't feel safe they don't come, and they don't bring their money, which is what Disney really wants and needs right now. The last two days I've been covered up in insta stories from Disney on Instagram highlighting people at the parks showing how safe it is, how uncrowded it is, they are really hitting those points hard and increasing capacity really doesn't go along with that narrative.It does kind of matter though. APs (locals, mostly) aren’t exactly happy about the bucket situation. So if capacity were to increase, it would at least give them a chance to get a couple extra DHS days rather than using one or more of their three days a month from now.
Technically you are right, theyre not hitting capacity at the other 3 parks, so adding capacity wouldn’t matter. But why wait until the buckets fill up at every park until you increase capacity? We could be looking at Spring 2021 until they hit capacity at the non-DHS parks. So theyre not going to increase the capacity until then? Just because they increase it doesn’t mean they need to fill it. Its an extra cushion just in case they see a sudden pop in attendance.
All of this is irrelevant since Florida still hasn’t made it to a point where increasing capacity is wise.
The cost of increasing capacity is more important though. If they increase capacity that would mean they need to probably add more hours to the parks and bring back more CM'S. Judging by not just what Disney is doing but Universal with then closing hotels, financially it doesn't make sense.
Why even worry about that when they can't fill the capacity now. I can see if every bucket was full every day. Other then the AP holders, who they have already acknowledged aren't as big spenders, parks aren't full. I honestly don't them increasing capacity til they see the resort reservations start filling. Which at this rate could be a long while.How does preparing not make sense financially? Just because you add capacity doesn’t mean you have to make immediate changes to the parks. They still have a very good gauge of how many guests they’ll have on a given day with the reservations. As long as they know beforehand around how many guests are going to enter the park, you can plan accordingly. A capacity number doesn’t mean immediately increasing park hours, or adding CMs. It just means that they CAN fit more guests. If they see more people coming in through the reservations, they can adjust the hours again, and bring CMs in. It’s honestly not as difficult as its being made out to be
But Disney also wants to bring in people who spend more money (rooms, tickets, all/most of their meals), if the parks start filling up and getting more full/crowded then a lot of people are going to feel super uncomfortable coming. They know people will only go if they feel safe, and a more "full" park doesn't scream safety to most people. If people don't feel safe they don't come, and they don't bring their money, which is what Disney really wants and needs right now. The last two days I've been covered up in insta stories from Disney on Instagram highlighting people at the parks showing how safe it is, how uncrowded it is, they are really hitting those points hard and increasing capacity really doesn't go along with that narrative.
Why even worry about that when they can't fill the capacity now. I can see if every bucket was full every day. Other then the AP holders, who they have already acknowledged aren't as big spenders, parks aren't full. I honestly don't them increasing capacity til they see the resort reservations start filling. Which at this rate could be a long while.
That's some wishful thinking you have. Parks are only busier as they have let more AP holders in who don't spend as much as resort guests who aren't coming. I disagree that parks are going to return to bring busy soon. It has nothing to do with Covid cases. Its more going to do with the fact we are in a ression and many people are out of jobs.That’s why its called a “Phased Reopening”. They’re not going to go from ~10,000 guest capacity to ~30,000 at DHS over night and let things get out of control. It’ll be a few thousand at a time. As I said, eventually theyre going to increase the capacity, and I’d bet money on it being before everyone in the country is comfortable with being around crowds of people. I hope those people in IG aren’t thinking that Disney is going to be “uncrowded” forever. Its going to go back to being busy. Not tomorrow, not next week, but it will be back to pre-pandemic crowds. Enjoy the empty parks, but dont get too used to them. The crowds now are much different than what they were a month ago today. They might be less this time next month than they are right now. But a hypothetical capacity number increasing only means more potential dollars for them. Worst case? They make the same amount they would without increasing the capacity
That's some wishful thinking you have. Parks are only busier as they have let more AP holders in who don't spend as much as resort guests who aren't coming. I disagree that parks are going to return to bring busy soon. It has nothing to do with Covid cases. Its more going to do with the fact we are in a ression and many people are out of jobs.
As far as increasing capacity. Why do it when they can't fill the capacity they have set? IMO you increase capacity when demand is there.