Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Brianstl]

Guys this isn't a discussion about whether or not we have peaked, will peaked soon, or stuff like that. Let's focus on what Disney is doing now and what they may do soon.

What Disney does is going depend on when we peak across the country and in Florida

 

[xuxa777]

Sorry, just put that out there because If it has already peaked then the chances the Springs, resorts will be opening in July will be greatly increased. I will focus on keeping it on topic.

 

[rteetz]

I understand you're trying to thread a narrow line here, but isn't Florida possibly having peaked directly related to what Disney may do soon?

What Disney does is going depend on when we peak across the country and in Florida

I understand but at the same time this goes down a rabbit hole too. One source could say this is the peak another could say something else and so on. I want to keep this as "Disney" as possible. Florida peaking doesn't mean other states are or will at the same time and so on.

 

[J-BOY]

I understand but at the same time this goes down a rabbit hole too. One source could say this is the peak another could say something else and so on. I want to keep this as "Disney" as possible. Florida peaking doesn't mean other states are or will at the same time and so on.

Then to be frank, there's no point having this thread open as there isn't anything to discuss until Disney makes further announcements about closures, re-openings or construction. All speculation is going to be based on current public health data, otherwise it's baseless and not really worth discussion IMO. Just my two cents.

 

[rteetz]

Then to be frank, there's no point having this thread open as there isn't anything to discuss until Disney makes further announcements about closures, re-openings or construction. All speculation is going to be based on current public health data, otherwise it's baseless and not really worth discussion IMO. Just my two cents.

Disney announced several things today that I think should be discussed but often get lost in this thread due to other discussions. I’m more or less trying to steer the discussion from going off the deep end.

 

[Remy is Up]

There are a lot of things making noise today that pretty much confirm itll be july, at the earliest. Impending furloughs through late June of all remaining non customer contact cms. Universal is doing the same thing very shortly.

 

[Farro]

Disney announced several things today that I think should be discussed but often get lost in this thread due to other discussions. I’m more or less trying to steer the discussion from going off the deep end.

Releasing supposed dates for the Moana Water Feature is the best news I've read in a long time, even if there's a chance to be pushed back again.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

TBH I have a harder time picturing a halfway functioning WDW than a completely closed down one. World showcase not staffed with international CMs? Maybe even 1 park open to start with? Not saying they won’t do it, but that’s really surreal. I don’t know why more so than the current state.

I think the newest CM news out today points to later than June 1 IMO, which I thought was early to begin with. I really would caution against people booking make up trips that quickly, losing one sucks, losing two is going to be that much harder.

 

[mickeyfanachey1999]

pga cancelled British open for July.

The PGA doesn't administer the Open Championship. The R&A does. The PGA didn't have a vote in the cancellation.

 

[SMRT-1]

I understand but at the same time this goes down a rabbit hole too. One source could say this is the peak another could say something else and so on. I want to keep this as "Disney" as possible. Florida peaking doesn't mean other states are or will at the same time and so on.

Alice went down a rabbit hole to get to Wonderland. Disney has made multiple adaptations of Alice in Wonderland. Therefore, going down a rabbit hole is Disney-related.

 

[xuxa777]

TBH I have a harder time picturing a halfway functioning WDW than a completely closed down one. World showcase not staffed with international CMs? Maybe even 1 park open to start with? Not saying they won’t do it, but that’s really surreal. I don’t know why more so than the current state.

I think the newest CM news out today points to later than June 1 IMO, which I thought was early to begin with. I really would caution against people booking make up trips that quickly, losing one sucks, losing two is going to be that much harder.

Epcot would be fine, WS doesn't have to have international cast members, won't be as nice, but not having intentional cast members I don't be seeing a deal breaker. I would say most people won't really notice a difference.

What will be hard is staffing. The international cast members are a huge part of Disney park staffing and they will not be able to enter the country, without a minimum of a two weeks quarantine if they are even allowed in the country.

 

[Brianstl]

There are a lot of things making noise today that pretty much confirm itll be july, at the earliest. Impending furloughs through late June of all remaining non customer contact cms. Universal is doing the same thing very shortly.

I think the June 1 college program decision tells us more about what colleges are willing to let their students do than what Disney’s plans are. They didn’t send CP kids home in March until a bunch of schools told them that they were recalling their students from the program.

 

[rteetz]

I think the June 1 college program decision tells us more about what colleges are willing to let their students do than what Disney’s plans are. They didn’t send CP kids home in March until a bunch of schools told them that they were recalling their students.

I think that is part of it too. Disney houses most of these students in basically dorms. Pretty much every single college in the US has cleared their dorms for the semester.

 

[Remy is Up]

I think the June 1 college program decision tells us more about what colleges are willing to let their students do than what Disney’s plans are. They didn’t send CP kids home in March until a bunch of schools told them that they were recalling their students.

It is a lot more than just the CP decision. Its also about the remaining CMs who were not furloughed already, decisions about them, the PI program, and a couple of other things not only at Disney but at Uni that very much make it a put the indicators together and this is what you get. ALL of those indicators based on publicly known info and info not yet known, is pointing heavily to Late July at best for any sort of opening and more likely into August. Things can change quickly with this virus and how things play out, but, the companies are not planning for June openings at this point. That time frame has passed.

 

[Frogman88]

The covid 19 real facts are that no one knows the real facts its novel virus. Its all predictions and likely outcomes pretty much just a bunch of guessing.

 

[Remy is Up]

The covid 19 real facts are that no one knows the real facts its novel virus. Its all predictions and likely outcomes pretty much just a bunch of guessing.

Absolutely agreed. I will follow that with opening WDW or Uni or even the SW/BG parks isnt like turning on a dime. Its trying to turn a steamship and takes work, planning, and time. They dont just wake up when things appear to get better in late may/early June and say, hey we will open back up tomorrow. It doesnt work that way. They have logistics of supplies, labor, systems, etc to consider and you can rest assured, that doesnt happen in a day, a week, or even two weeks. That is a 4-6 week process minimum to get things back into place where they can deliver quality service and value. So again, based on decisions we know Disney and Uni have made coupled with decisions that have been made and are not announced publicly yet, the June time frame is no longer feasible. Its now on to the next window ( Late July/August) and hope it works out.

 

[xuxa777]

Absolutely agreed. I will follow that with opening WDW or Uni or even the SW/BG parks isnt like turning on a dime. Its trying to turn a steamship and takes work, planning, and time. They dont just wake up when things appear to get better in late may/early June and say, hey we will open back up tomorrow. It doesnt work that way. They have logistics of supplies, labor, systems, etc to consider and you can rest assured, that doesnt happen in a day, a week, or even two weeks. That is a 4-6 week process minimum to get things back into place where they can deliver quality service and value. So again, based on decisions we know Disney and Uni have made coupled with decisions that have been made and are not announced publicly yet, the June time frame is no longer feasible. Its now on to the next window ( Late July/August) and hope it works out.

Yes there is no way to unwind the things that have already been (and needed to be done) put into motion for June, hopefully late July, August works out with if the news gets better like it has been. Telling will be if the Shanghai announces more of an opening later this month or than the resort.

 

[hertamaniac]

They have logistics of supplies, labor, systems, etc to consider and you can rest assured, that doesnt happen in a day, a week, or even two weeks. That is a 4-6 week process minimum to get things back into place where they can deliver quality service and value.

While I agree with your list, I would add the liability and risk team being central on the decision of when, and perhaps more importantly how, they will reopen.

 

[yankeesfan123]

My favorite peak is Splash Mountain.

 

[Remy is Up]

While I agree with your list, I would add the liability and risk team being central on the decision of when, and perhaps more importantly how, they will reopen.

They are definitely involved as part of the process. Which is why even more of the indicators point to July or August