Creationism museum to be protested...

[crcormier]

Well, it isn't my area of expertise, but I would think that that they are the product of the environment and genetics. I know several people who are adamant about this theory, but I've never studied it extensively myself.

But wouldn't that be evolution?

 

[dannyh23]

It did however go into how big the ark was, and as much as it's already impossible, dinos would only makes it more so.

Yeah -- it's *really hard* for some people to come to grips with the "ark story"...

Even ignoring all of the dinosaurs, wooly mammoths, etc...

Just try to imagine how all the living things that exist now got to the loading dock! How did all of the kangaroos, slugs, houseflies, alligators, snakes, Bedbugs(!!!!), polar bears, termites, penguins, hippos, koala bears, sloths, spiders, etc. get there? Did the thousands of various diseases, molds, and bacteria also get put into the ark? How did Noah feed them all to keep them alive, especially since some animals can only eat specific types of diets.

What happened to all the fish in all of the oceans and lakes? Anyone who's kept any type of aquarium knows you can't put salt water fish in fresh water and vice versa. Has anyone here ever *tried* to keep a single piece of any type of coral alive? Did Noah really bring all the hundreds of different varieties of corals on board and somehow keep them alive?

 

[Laura]

But wouldn't that be evolution?

One would think.

 

[TheBellhop]

Just try to imagine how all the living things that exist now got to the loading dock! How did all of the kangaroos, slugs, houseflies, alligators, snakes, Bedbugs(!!!!), polar bears, termites, penguins, hippos, koala bears, sloths, spiders, etc. get there? Did the thousands of various diseases, molds, and bacteria also get put into the ark? How did Noah feed them all to keep them alive, especially since some animals can only eat specific types of diets.

OMG DUH SILEE.

It's the magic of God that did it, and the Bible would never ever be wrong.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

It's the magic of God that did it, and the Bible would never ever be wrong.

Amen!

 

[TheBellhop]

Amen!

I like the way we think.

 

[dcentity2000]

OMG DUH SILEE.

It's the magic of God that did it, and the Bible would never ever be wrong.

But, given that it is written in a human and therefore limited and flawed language, it is plausible that one may misinterpret the teachings.



Rich::

 

[meandtheguys2]

But wouldn't that be evolution?

Of a sort. Not fish to people, but wolf to dalmation.

Either way, it really isn't my problem. I love listening to people who are passionate about what they believe, whether it is Ken Ham, and Timothy Leary. I'm not much for complainers, but I'm a sucker for people of passion. Unfortunately, I pick up a multitude of bits of info, but not always the whole thing.

 

[cardaway]

Of a sort. Not fish to people, but wolf to dalmation.

Same thing, longer time span.

 

[meandtheguys2]

Same thing, longer time span.

Well, it could be, but the people who carry this belief (young earth, literal story) do not believe that time existed.

 

[cardaway]

Well, it could be, but the people who carry this belief (young earth, literal story) do not believe that time existed.

That's their right, but they get to keep that kind of stuff in their church and out of palces dedicated to real science. Places that don't admit science exists yet fall back on miracles when it's pointed out there is a flaw in their theory.

 

[meandtheguys2]

That's their right, but they get to keep that kind of stuff in their church and out of palces dedicated to real science. Places that don't admit science exists yet fall back on miracles when it's pointed out there is a flaw in their theory.

That's why they built their own museum. We have museums dedicated to string, spam, toaster, riverboats, native americans, etc. This isn't any different. Their money, their museum, their right. I'm sitting on free tickets, so I'll go to the museum, and we will have a lovely time.

I believe in miracles. I like believing in miracles. If I am wrong, I am out absolutely zip. I like science, too. I don't see any reason to be hostile to one side or another. Holding different beliefs isn't bad.\

eta: I don't put Native Americans on the same level as spam...I just know the man who designed the new museum, and it came to mind.

 

[JoyG]

There are some animals described in the Old Testament that could be a reference to dinosaurs. They are Leviathan and the behemoth. The Behemoth is described as 'moving his tail like a cedar'. From the description of Leviathan he sounds like a giant sea reptile.

I don't think believing in the miracle of Noah's Ark is any more difficult than believing Jesus changed water to wine or fed a crowd of thousands with only a few loaves and fishes.

I tend to believe in the existance of a literal Adam and Eve. I do believe that a day with God is like a thousand years so I don't know if I believe in a literal 7 day period (with only 24hours).

 

[cardaway]

That's why they built their own museum. We have museums dedicated to string, spam, toaster, riverboats, native americans, etc. This isn't any different. Their money, their museum, their right. I'm sitting on free tickets, so I'll go to the museum, and we will have a lovely time.

I believe in miracles. I like believing in miracles. If I am wrong, I am out absolutely zip. I like science, too. I don't see any reason to be hostile to one side or another. Holding different beliefs isn't bad.

Not too long ago there was snarky comment about other museums and knocking them for ignoring Christian teachings. I agree there is no problem with them building their own museum, in fact I hope it means they will leave the rest alone.

 

[dannyh23]

That's their right, but they get to keep that kind of stuff in their church and out of palces dedicated to real science. Places that don't admit science exists yet fall back on miracles when it's pointed out there is a flaw in their theory.

Yeah, I don't think I would ever pay money to visit this "museum". In fact, to even work at this "museum", you have to agree to this Statement of Faith, that includes gems like:

* The 66 books of the Bible are the written Word of God. The Bible is divinely inspired and inerrant throughout. Its assertions are factually true in all the original autographs. It is the supreme authority in everything it teaches.

* The great Flood of Genesis was an actual historic event, worldwide (global) in its extent and effect.

* Those who do not believe in Christ are subject to everlasting conscious punishment, but believers enjoy eternal life with God.

* Scripture teaches a recent origin for man and the whole creation.

* The days in Genesis do not correspond to geologic ages, but are six [6] consecutive twenty-four [24] hour days of Creation.

Those who do not agree to the big long list need not apply... I suppose anyone who is not a young earth creationist won't get a job here...

JoyG, sorry you would not be welcome to work here since you don't believe they are literally, six 24-hour days!

 

[meandtheguys2]

Not too long ago there was snarky comment about other museums and knocking them for ignoring Christian teachings. I agree there is no problem with them building their own museum, in fact I hope it means they will leave the rest alone.

Oooohhhhh. See, that is what happens when I don't keep up on threads. I wondered why some of the uproar. I get it now. Thanks.

danny, it makes sense to me that they would want people working there who believed in their point. It would be like a creationist going to work in the natural history museum, and telling people that all the dates are wrong.

 

[BuckyFan04]

I tend to believe in the existance of a literal Adam and Eve. I do believe that a day with God is like a thousand years so I don't know if I believe in a literal 7 day period (with only 24hours).

My church takes the Bible literally for the most part, so it teaches that the creation period was literally 7 24-hour days. Something we believe that supports this belief is that after every day of creation, it is stated that "....there was morning, and there was evening, the (first/second/etc.) day."
From morning to evening/night it is 24 hours, so we assume that they were actually 24 hour days.

That's my take on it.

 

[JoyG]

My church takes the Bible literally for the most part, so it teaches that the creation period was literally 7 24-hour days. Something we believe that supports this belief is that after every day of creation, it is stated that "....there was morning, and there was evening, the (first/second/etc.) day."
From morning to evening/night it is 24 hours, so we assume that they were actually 24 hour days.

That's my take on it.

My church teaches the same thing, however, I'm not able to say for certain that I believe that.

There are some places in the world today where it is daylight for months, the sun doesn't rise and set every 24 hours.

I don't have a conviction about this topic either way. I do believe the Adam/Eve account though.

 

[Buckalew11]

I tend to believe that also. However, I lean toward a break in years between Gen. 1:1 and Gen 1:2. The Bible does say that a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day in the eyes of God though so it makes one wonder.

 

[cardaway]

* Those who do not believe in Christ are subject to everlasting conscious punishment, but believers enjoy eternal life with God.

Well isn't that special. No hositlity there.