Creationism museum to be protested...

[LakeAriel]

BOTH ARE Two of my favorite Actors! Is the play in NYC?????

Yes and I hope there aren't protesters outside waiting! Should I wear lime green...

 

[LakeAriel]

Lucky you!

With that cast I couldn't miss it....

 

[jenfur]

Not slamming your beliefs as I am really curious: What scientific evidence has been offered for creationism?

And what evidence is there that it is just supposition on the scientific methods that have dated the earth?

As I said, I am curious about learning more, so please don't take this as a slam on creationism.

One of the evidences that support creationism or least a younger earth than evolutionist would allow include be the studies of helium and polonium halos. Another would be the rate of decay of the earth's magnetic field and the study of the earth's rotation. These are just a few.

There is much supposition involved in the methods that have been used to date the earth. The commonly used method is c14 which in many cases have been unreliable in dating specimens for which the dates are actually known. The use of c14 also assumes that the conditions of the earth has been uniform and does not account for circumstances that would cause
c14 to be inaccurate such as....wait for it....the flood.

 

[RickinNYC]

I think the protest is pretty stupid and a waste of time.

I don't believe in creationism as the Christians do but I'd go in just to check out the exhibit out of curiousity.

 

[dcentity2000]

Mix religion and science and we get... RELIENCE!



Rich::

 

[PrincessTiff]

Those poor athiests. I didn't know they cared.

They can go to a zoo for their museum.

I have somewhere you can go too.

 

[PrincessTiff]

*Removing the post I was quoting *

How funny! Some people refuse to ponder evolution but they go sit in a church and the preacher tells them that there's this "god" that suddenly created humans and they eat it up?! Interesting.

 

[dcentity2000]

How funny! Some people refuse to ponder evolution but they go sit in a church and the preacher tells them that there's this "god" that suddenly created humans and they eat it up?! Interesting.

Thing is, I actually find it a bit insulting at times. To waste a God given intelligence by not admiring AND CONSIDERING His work is almost blasphemous.

Of course, if the individual examines the main stream theories and concludes that creationism is the real thing, that's a different matter and I have no problem with them.



Rich::

 

[singingpixie]

I think people might be concerned because you expect a certain level of truthfulness when you enter a building called a museum. Any art museum presenting a painting by Monet has gone to great lengths to ensure that in fact Monet was the artist of the piece. Artifacts are authenticated in other museums and fraud or forgery is a scandal. The value and design of hands-on or interactive exhibits in places like childrens museums is researched by educators and developmental experts so that there is something to be learned from them. Museums are places that present truth. Creationism is a myth.

I've only read as far as your post, so this might have already been addressed. To me, museums do present things that aren't fact in that they also present facts about a civilization, including the religious beliefs of that civilization. If I were to go to a museum with a collection on ancient egypt, I would be presented with information of what they believed about the origin of life. So to me, a museum of creationism is more of an anthropological study of the people who believe that way, than necessarily presenting "myth" as fact.

For the record, I am a Christian who believes that evolution was a tool God used in creation- I believe everything was his doing, but not that it happened in the exact way explained in Genesis. (If anyone wonders my reasoning, it is that to me, if the Bible was written by men but inspired by God, it means that the words in it had to make sense to those writing and the contemporary readers- God put the message into terms that his people would understand, instead of just writing the literal truth. It's just like answering really big questions that your children ask).

 

[PrincessTiff]

Glad to be of service. But I can't take all the credit...I mean, science classes also kinda help to spread the word.

Along with a healthy dose of common sense.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Along with a healthy dose of common sense.

Evolution is common sense.

It sure takes a lot more faith (and big assumptions) to believe in evolution than creationism.

 

[PrincessTiff]

Evolution is common sense.

It sure takes a lot more faith (and big assumptions) to believe in evolution than creationism.

Did I say I was an avid believer in evolution? Absolutely not. It does, however, make a hell of a lot more sense than creationism.

 

[dcentity2000]

Evolution is common sense.

It sure takes a lot more faith (and big assumptions) to believe in evolution than creationism.

Don't you consider God able to create evolution? I don't get the bipolar way this topic is always debated in.



Rich::

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Don't you consider God able to create evolution? I don't get the bipolar way this topic is always debated in.



Rich::

God is the ultimate creator and scientist. He created the entire world, gave creatures and plants the ability to adapt, and gave us stewardship over it all.

His recent raising of the average temparature of the earth 1/10 of one degree is sure causing hysteria.

 

[dcentity2000]

God is the ultimate creator and scientist. He created the entire world, gave creatures and plants the ability to adapt, and gave us stewardship over it all.

Surely by that token His creation, science, must have taken place from the very beginning. Why meddle when Your creation is sculpted to exist, evolve and prosper as this one is?

What I'm getting at is this: God created reality. This reality spawned science. Science triggered billions, trillions of development and it is by the grace of God that these sciences exist and operate independently, such is the scope and detail of His creation?



Rich::

 

[DISUNC]

Yes and I hope there aren't protesters outside waiting! Should I wear lime green...

Give us a review....Now I wanna go see it. Since I moved here (poconos) I am no longer up on anything!

 

[wvrevy]

So tell me, Joe - or some other "believer" - who created God? If the "evidence" of creation is the creation itself, then - by the same "logic" for god to "exist", he must have had a "creator".

Or...if it is ok for God to "just always have existed", then why can't the same thing be said for the universe?

And sorry, but no, it doesn't take any "faith" to "believe" in evolution. All it takes is the ability to think critically and the lack of ability to believe in the supernatural.

 

[dcentity2000]

So tell me, Joe - or some other "believer" - who created God? If the "evidence" of creation is the creation itself, then - by the same "logic" for god to "exist", he must have had a "creator".

The way I understand it, He exists outside of our reality and scientific laws, all of which He created. Further than that is VERY subjective at best - that land is totally based on faith and trust. I guess we won't know until we die and even then...



Rich::

 

[chicagodisneyfan]

One of the evidences that support creationism or least a younger earth than evolutionist would allow include be the studies of helium and polonium halos. Another would be the rate of decay of the earth's magnetic field and the study of the earth's rotation. These are just a few.

There is much supposition involved in the methods that have been used to date the earth. The commonly used method is c14 which in many cases have been unreliable in dating specimens for which the dates are actually known. The use of c14 also assumes that the conditions of the earth has been uniform and does not account for circumstances that would cause
c14 to be inaccurate such as....wait for it....the flood.

I have searched for such articles claiming carbon dating to be uneffective and they have all been proven false.

How can anyone believe what you want to believe without taking facts into account?

I am bewildered and Catholic - genesis is a story not literal truth.

 

[freckles and boo]

I've only read as far as your post, so this might have already been addressed. To me, museums do present things that aren't fact in that they also present facts about a civilization, including the religious beliefs of that civilization. If I were to go to a museum with a collection on ancient egypt, I would be presented with information of what they believed about the origin of life. So to me, a museum of creationism is more of an anthropological study of the people who believe that way, than necessarily presenting "myth" as fact.

I agree in principle, and if you continue reading this thread you will see that I actually expressed an interest in a museum about religion in general. However, if you go to the website of this museum (someone posted the link) and click on "About Us", you will see that this organization's mission is all about presenting creationism as scientific fact. It is an tool for evangelizing, not a serious museum.