COVID super spreading family we know **Our friend has passed away**

[jaybirdsmommy]

. forget it.

 

[Riddlepilot]

This is all simply an exercise in risk tolerance. Some people on this thread have determined that even going to the grocery store is too much risk so they have those items delivered, and never leave home. A larger portion have decided that the risk of catching covid at the grocery store is small and would rather select their own groceries than paying/dealing with delivery. Still others have taken that a step further and said the risk is pretty low and while I don't necessarily need a new ceiling fan in the bedroom it would be nice to have and I have some. time on my hands so I can run to home Depot, because that's not super risky as long as I wear a mask. As to family gatherings it's the same thing. We had my wife's parents and my grandmother over to our house for Thanksgiving. Some of you will say we should have just shot my grandmother, because that's no different than having her to our house, but my in laws go nowhere but the store every two weeks, my kids are doing at home learning, I'm not working and my wife who is a professor had been out of the classroom for a week and was in an environment where mask were strictly enforced. This was explained to everyone and the decision was made that it was an acceptable risk. Ultimately each person has to decide what an acceptable risk is and go from there. Yes if other folks have a higher risk tolerance that could affect me, but that's true of pretty much everything in life. All I can do is say shopping around folks who don't wear a mask is to great a risk for me, and in my experience our local Walmart does not enforce mask compliance very well so I'm going to kroger because they seem to do a better job. If I absolutely have to go-to Walmart I'll try to go right when they open or another uncrowded time. This far into this whole thing yelling at people and telling them how stupid they are for not having the same risk tolerance as me is a waste of time.

 

[NFLDERS]

Exactly. Wear a mask. Social distance. Get things delivered. When these people who do not care and won't wear a mask and travel everywhere and spreak it everywhere... GRRR. They give it to people like the checker at Walmart. People that have to work. They can't stay home. Just wear a mask and social distance and don't gather in groups. Our hosptials are getting overwhelmed.

So sorry that your hospitals are overwhelmed too.

 

[NFLDERS]

While the thread is still open, just updating....

The husband friend of ours, at the top of the list in the OP, went to the hospital today. He is 78. Has a temperature and low oxygen. Wishing the best for him, tough times. Our prayers are with him and family.

Oh Dan, so sorry for you and Marie. The family must be so afraid, prayers and thoughts.

 

[NFLDERS]

Well, Bill can stay locked down as long as he wants. I really don't think people are going along with that.

You're right people will do.. I just read that Melania Trump took off her mask at a Children's Hospital so she could read to them.

 

[Princessclab]

Lots of lack of empathy going on these days for sure. Not necessarily just the kind you think.

Maybe, maybe not. I was talking about those who have died which is the ultimate sacrifice for those who believe other things in our culture are more important than life itself.
If you are not well it doesn't really matter if you can't go out and get a drink in a bar. People who refuse to understand the reality of how this pandemic is happening is concerning.

 

[mom2rtk]

You're right people will do.. I just read that Melania Trump took off her mask at a Children's Hospital so she could read to them.

Sounds like she isn't setting a good example, but she probably does have immunity since she had Covid already. Regardless, I'm not talking about NOW. I'm talking about down the road months from now when people have had the opportunity to have the vaccine.

Maybe, maybe not. I was talking about those who have died which is the ultimate sacrifice for those who believe other things in our culture are more important than life itself.
If you are not well it doesn't really matter if you can't go out and get a drink in a bar. People who refuse to understand the reality of how this pandemic is happening is concerning.

Of course you only mention people dying and people wanting to go out and have a drink. There's a lot of suffering you gloss right over with that. People fighting for their economic lives. People who have lost their life savings. People without health insurance in a pandemic. People falling into despair and depression.

 

[Princessclab]

Well, Bill Gates just came out and said we'll basically be locked down into 2022. I assume this includes those who take the vaccines.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1338196775564435459

Bill Gates! I recognize he is a money guy and contributes to the greater good, but, come on, he knows nothing about healthcare and epidimiology. Nothing to back up his ignorant prediction.
Sensationalism because he has a media forum because he has money. Sheesh.

 

[Heather07438]

Bill Gates! I recognize he is a money guy and contributes to the greater good, but, come on, he knows nothing about healthcare and epidimiology. Nothing to back up his ignorant prediction.
Sensationalism because he has a media forum because he has money. Sheesh.

Curious if you actually went and looked at it yourself

 

[tarheelmjfan]

Bill Gates! I recognize he is a money guy and contributes to the greater good, but, come on, he knows nothing about healthcare and epidimiology. Nothing to back up his ignorant prediction.
Sensationalism because he has a media forum because he has money. Sheesh.

This isn't on Bill Gates. He didn't say that, but a few people here jumped all over it to further their agenda. The truth no longer matters for many people.

 

[Dan Murphy]

He said it may be 2022, before we are back to being totally normal, if enough people in the US don't get the vaccine & we don't help the rest of the world get vaccinated. (Obviously, I'm paraphrasing.) That's not even similar to saying the US may be locked down into 2022. As a matter of fact, he predicted we'd be much closer to normal by next summer.

He's very good. I've seen him discussing what he and his wife have been so involved with for years now, world vaccines/epidemiology.

 

[Dan Murphy]

While the thread is still open, just updating....

The husband friend of ours, at the top of the list in the OP, went to the hospital today. He is 78. Has a temperature and low oxygen. Wishing the best for him, tough times. Our prayers are with him and family.

Pneumonia now. Treating with antibiotics and steroids.

 

[robinb]

Pneumonia now. Treating with antibiotics and steroids.

I’m so sorry to hear this. Sending healing energy to your friend.

 

[disneygirlsng]

We are already 37 weeks in on a 2 week to flatten the curve and people just went along with it. Why wouldn't people continue to go along with it, especially reading on what people's opinions are on this board.

Because some of us work in hospitals that are soooooo incredibly overwhelmed right now. We are dealing with the absolutely awful effects of this virus right in front of us on a daily basis. Dealing with far more death than normal. We get home after a stressful day at work, try to unwind by going on a message board of something that we enjoy, and see people that have absolutely no regard for what is going on in this country right now. It is devastatingly infuriating.

 

[EveDallas]

Well, Bill can stay locked down as long as he wants. I really don't think people are going along with that.

It's also super easy to say that when you have a bazillion dollars and lockdown won't affect you a bit.

 

[Minnie1222]

Well, Bill Gates just came out and said we'll basically be locked down into 2022. I assume this includes those who take the vaccines.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1338196775564435459

That's NOT what he said!
What is the point of writing a "Cliff's Note" if you're going to alter the information and change the ending?

 

[Minnie1222]

Bill Gates! I recognize he is a money guy and contributes to the greater good, but, come on, he knows nothing about healthcare and epidimiology. Nothing to back up his ignorant prediction.
Sensationalism because he has a media forum because he has money. Sheesh.

Actually! he knows a lot about public health and epidemiology.

Also, he never said the statement that was posted by our DiSer. Gates's original statement was already slashed and altered by the tweeter Tom Elliott. Our guy/gal further trimmed and refashioned the statement.

 

[ronandannette]

Sounds like she isn't setting a good example, but she probably does have immunity since she had Covid already. Regardless, I'm not talking about NOW. I'm talking about down the road months from now when people have had the opportunity to have the vaccine.

Of course you only mention people dying and people wanting to go out and have a drink. There's a lot of suffering you gloss right over with that. People fighting for their economic lives. People who have lost their life savings. People without health insurance in a pandemic. People falling into despair and depression.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/facin...ld-chooses-medically-assisted-death-1.5197140

 

[Dan Murphy]

Pneumonia now. Treating with antibiotics and steroids.

Thanks for the good thoughts/prayers.

His daughter (one of those with the virus) said today he was somewhat confused after waking up. He is on his second day of Remdesivir. Holding his own.

 

[DisneyOma]

From the sounds of it out of 17 or so people positive including several in high risk groups there was only 1 hospitalization and he’s home recovering now. This is what is causing people to not be concerned. The past month or so it’s been running crazy through people around here with the same results, that the vast majority are just fine. That’s why we’re continuing to get together and not take it so seriously. My mom who’s in her late 60s with several health issues got it from her roommate who’s in her 80s a few weeks ago. The roommate was fine. My mom felt pretty crappy for about a week but is fine now. I know it’s real, I know there’s a very small amount of people whose bodies have horrible reactions to it, but I also know that the vast majority of people will be just fine. I’m not going to stop seeing friends and family on the off chance that we’ll be in the extremely small minority. If this virus had like a 50% death rate then yes I’d be barricaded in my house ordering essential items and food online and not having any contact with anyone outside of my house whatsoever. With a death rate of less than 1% I’m living my life, I’m getting together with friends, I’m having family celebrations.

This post is just so shocking to me - please reconsider your selfish behavior before you actually kill someone. You might even be responsible for someone having a life altering condition for the rest of their life. IS it really okay with you that the "vast majority' is fine, but some people are dying from it?

Regardless of how you feel, that's a pretty awful thing to say.

It reflected the shocking behavior of the above poster, and many of us thought the same thing - let the poster's family suffer from the choices they are making, and please don't let it spread to others trying to survive.

Lots of lack of empathy going on these days for sure. Not necessarily just the kind you think.

So you have empathy for those that flout safety precautions, putting others at risk, but not for those that are actually trying to stay safe and are disgusted that all the months of precautions are wasted due to selfish behavior?