Covid-19 closer to "home" than I'd anticipated...

[pryncess527]

It does not mean shutting down the entire country. We didn't do that for H1N1, sars, mers, ebola, ect. We don't do it for rotrovirus, which has no real treatment other than treating symptoms and kills more people daily than this virus. This response has been overblown by a media frenzy.

No, we didn’t. And you might ask yourself why. If you think that media frenzy and not actual public health recommendations and numbers is the difference between this outbreak and others then I honestly don’t know what to say.

 

[Wendy31]

A community effort to prevent the spread of illness means doing exactly what has been advised. Washing hands,covering coughs, and staying home if you are sick. It does not mean shutting down the entire country. We didn't do that for H1N1, sars, mers, ebola, ect. We don't do it for rotrovirus, which has no real treatment other than treating symptoms and kills more people daily than this virus. This response has been overblown by a media frenzy.

Well, but people DON’T stay home when they’re sick. And, before people come at me w/ “People have to work”, I’m not even talking about people who go to work. I’m talking about people who continue to go out & about to places like grocery stores, malls, theaters, amusement parks, church, parties, etc.

We can’t even get people who have been told to self-quarantine from the coronovirus to stay home & not go to father-daughter dances.

Also, I came across this article today which shows how effectively social distancing works to flatten the curve -

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

 

[eeyoreandtink]

This is really you projecting. You seem to not understand that it is not necessarily how it will affect you as a young person, but the fact that in some age groups the death rate is 30% or higher. That is a huge death rate. I'm happy that you are only in the 0.2% death rate but many grandmothers and grandfathers have a 3 in 10 chance of dying if they get it. And imagine the strain on hospitals with all of the elderly getting critical care. It is not just about you. It is how you may be infecting others more vulnerable.

Everyone understands that right?

Of course I do. That's what the precautions being suggested are designed to do, limit the exposure of vulnerable populations. I have an 83 year old grandmother with COPD. Of course I am worried for her, and others in her situation. But it isn't necessary to stop the entire would to protect those people. My grandmother is staying home, keeping her hands washed, and we are limiting contact with her. That's what should be happening. Shutting down a college campus simply isn't necessary.

 

[erc]

Of course I do. That's what the precautions being suggested are designed to do, limit the exposure of vulnerable populations. I have an 83 year old grandmother with COPD. Of course I am worried for her, and others in her situation. But it isn't necessary to stop the entire would to protect those people. My grandmother is staying home, keeping her hands washed, and we are limiting contact with her. That's what should be happening. Shutting down a college campus simply isn't necessary.

I agree that the colleges closing doesn't make sense to me. I think they are more concerned with what students are bringing back from spring break, but it is really only rich colleges that can afford to keep paying staff to work when there are no students on campus. Or maybe they are concerned with the communities where these colleges are and the elderly that may live nearby. Not sure.

My concern though for elderly, even the ones who stay in their homes is there are a lot who are not completely isolated. They live in areas where people interact with them, or they are stubborn and don't want to miss their weekly social gatherings. A lot of older people receive in-home care now. Those caregivers although medically trained bring in things from the general population.

It is all about flattening the curve right now. Some are on board, and some aren't.

 

[tinkerdorabelle]

I live in high outbreak area second only to Washington State. My husband just told me they closed CBS that is acrossed from his job bc a couple tested positive and another building near his. So he probably eats at the same places these guys go but has been taking lunch now etc. but what about the other guys at his job. For many with weakened immune systems this is very scary. And I want to say this too, NY did not overreact to this, on the contrary IMO. This is not just about the elderly either, I am high risk and middle age. The guy that started majority of this near me is middle age and in critical condition he has some kind of weakened system or underlying health issue, many do aside from the elderly.

 

[pryncess527]

Students are not the only people on college campuses. What do you think the average age of faculty across the United States is? How easy do you think it would be to replace those faculty should something horrible happen to them because they were in contact with thousands of students? I think people who are looking at the college closings as being focused solely on students is kind of misplaced

 

[3threebabies]

You don’t want a bunch of college kids stuck at school who can’t get home—sick or not. Many dorm students, especially underclassmen, don’t have cars. They stay on campus or very close by for weeks and months at a time. By transitioning to distance learning, parents and students make the decisions. Not to mention, campus can get really cleaned. These facilities under constant use 24/7. Meningitis, mononucleosis, college campuses are a flash point for disease in the same way as nursing homes. Same would be true for boarding schools, sleep away camps, etc. Limiting communal living situations would be a cornerstone of social distancing, imo.

 

[dawnball]

We don't do it for rotrovirus, which has no real treatment other than treating symptoms and kills more people daily than this virus.

Rotavirus? What the heck? Rotavirus kills 20-60 people in the entire US every year. More than 30 people have died in Washington state from coronavirus this month.

The "it's just the flu, bro" is getting excessive.

 

[lilstint]

Of course I do. That's what the precautions being suggested are designed to do, limit the exposure of vulnerable populations. I have an 83 year old grandmother with COPD. Of course I am worried for her, and others in her situation. But it isn't necessary to stop the entire would to protect those people. My grandmother is staying home, keeping her hands washed, and we are limiting contact with her. That's what should be happening. Shutting down a college campus simply isn't necessary.

It’s not just your grandmother though, it’s also you and you kids that could be gravely affected by this. God forbid something like a car accident happens and you or one of you children need emergency care. We’ve taken hospitals for granted. We expect that they will be ready and well equipped to handle a situation like this should we need them. Hospitals will be overwhelmed if this continues to advance at the present rate. The lack of enough ventilators is a major concern. In fact, the lack of enough hospitals is also a major concern. We need to do everything humanly possible right now and if it takes closing schools, although very inconvenient, that’s what needs to happen. For everyone. The old and the young. Everyone.

 

[theSurlyMermaid]

Rotavirus? What the heck? Rotavirus kills 20-60 people in the entire US every year. More than 30 people have died in Washington state from coronavirus this month.

The "it's just the flu, bro" is getting excessive.

Not just excessive but dangerous and irresponsible as well. If people are going to keep making this ridiculous assertion they are part of the problem.

 

[eeyoreandtink]

It’s not just your grandmother though, it’s also you and you kids that could be gravely affected by this. God forbid something like a car accident happens and you or one of you children need emergency care. We’ve taken hospitals for granted. We expect that they will be ready and well equipped to handle a situation like this should we need them. Hospitals will be overwhelmed if this continues to advance at the present rate. The lack of enough ventilators is a major concern. In fact, the lack of enough hospitals is also a major concern. We need to do everything humanly possible right now and if it takes closing schools, although very inconvenient, that’s what needs to happen. For everyone. The old and the young. Everyone.

Yes, but we cannot live our lives in fear. We are more likely to be seriously injured in an auto accident than to have complications from this. We are all under 50 and healthy.

As to hospitals being overwhelmed. I have addressed that before. As of right now 18% of cases have required serious intervention. That number is again based largely on a province of China where respiratory health is poor and healthcare is substandard, but even at that rate hardly overwhelming. I think at this point closing schools is alarmist and unnecessary unless that school actually has cases.

 

[eeyoreandtink]

Rotavirus? What the heck? Rotavirus kills 20-60 people in the entire US every year. More than 30 people have died in Washington state from coronavirus this month.

The "it's just the flu, bro" is getting excessive.

Worldwide, rotoviurs kills tens of thousands

 

[eeyoreandtink]

Not just excessive but dangerous and irresponsible as well. If people are going to keep making this ridiculous assertion they are part of the problem.

How, when that is what the WHO is comparing symptoms to in those who are mildly or moderately effected? Over 70% of those with the virus are experiencing mild to moderate flu like symptoms.

 

[erc]

Not just excessive but dangerous and irresponsible as well. If people are going to keep making this ridiculous assertion they are part of the problem.

It is scary. I think there are many more like that one and they really are part of why we will not be able to flatten the curve.

 

[TLSnell1981]

The “the flu is worse” or “it’s just the flu” comments are getting to me.

I don't think many realize how serious the flu can be for the elderly and/or those with underlying conditions.

Folks should be proactive and use precautions plus common sense. Although panic has overtaken reason. I am disappointed but not surprised.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

I don't think many realize how serious the flu can be for the elderly and/or those with underlying conditions.

Folks should be proactive and use precautions plus common sense. Although panic has overtaken reason. I am disappointed but not surprised.

Agreed - and this is ten times as deadly as the flu.

 

[RamblingMad]

I went to the hospital last night with shortness of breath and a cough I've had for the last two weeks. I had come off having the flu over two weeks ago. I was worried I had pneumonia. They tested me for both flu strains and RSV and pneumonia. I tested negative for all three. They gave me steroids and a breathing treatment and discharged me with a prescription for steroids. I was never tested for COVID-19. My DS asked about it since I had recently traveled to areas with outbreaks. They said they only had enough tests for patients admitted.

Today, I went to Costco to pick up my prescriptions; I was hoping to grab some lunch meat and pasta too. There was no parking. I had to park in the Firehouse Subway lot and walk over. There were lines to the back of the store that reached the frozen meat. There was a guy in the front of the store saying they were all sold out of TP. The go to items were Bounty towels and water. I saw very little food in people's carts.

The reaction from today versus last week blows my mind.

 

[ShirikiUtundu]

I mean, I understand that what you probably have is residual bronchial inflammation from your previous flu. But you have been to impacted areas and felt sick enough to go the hospital and then you went out to the store????

 

[RamblingMad]

I mean, I understand that what you probably have is residual bronchial inflammation from your previous flu. But you have been to impacted areas and felt sick enough to go the hospital and then you went out to the store????

It's the closest and cheapest pharmacy to my home. And the impacted area was LA in the middle of February.

 

[ShirikiUtundu]

It's the closest and cheapest pharmacy to my home. And the impacted area was LA in the middle of February.

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