Could FP+ Ruin my experience?

[michelle06]

Nope. Not the only one. I've said it before on the fp+ threads (and even on this one!) We don't WANT to plan what rides we'll be riding at what time 2 months before our trip! We loosely have an idea of what parks we'll be in on what days during our trip (based mostly on EMH) but that's it. We don't always buy hoppers, but fp+ almost forces you into them.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the hoppers. How would hopping help the situation? Why do you feel it forces you to buy hoppers?

 

[jade1]

Right now (for the testing anyways) fastpass+ times do start at 9:00am.

Also, what about EMH? That may be good for some folks to get some stuff done before any FP+ starts. Could also making hopping important so you can visit EMH at one park-then later do another with FP+. Unless they start EMH every day for every park to provide more opportunity.

 

[Mad Hattered]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the hoppers. How would hopping help the situation? Why do you feel it forces you to buy hoppers?

I believe they feel that they can book their 3 allotted fast passes at a park they could hop to later in the day. They would hit rope drop at the park of their choice and ride all their favorite rides, with hopefully a short wait, and then hop to the park where they reserved their 3 fast passes prior.

 

[Paula Sedley-Burke]

I'm pretty sure there is wifi in the parks BUT that it's unreliable. I could be wrong, I haven't tried to use it so I don't have any personal experience.

Thanks! I will try but not expect to much. I haven't been 'invited' to test a MB yet anyway though. Wrong resort I think.

 

[rastuso]

I recently was at Disneyland for D23 and 5 park days. And the whole time I was comparing how FP+ would impact my days.

I must say, I think it would have devistated them. First up, my wife was sick and didn't go with my son and I the first two days, so that could have royally screwed her out of a big ride if the only day we got an FP+ for a big ride was one of her sick days.

Also, we never arrived at RD, which was 8 AM! Just too early for us, since none of us were 100%. We got there between 10 and 11 most day, so we missed the gravy RD times, and at least one FP. However, we still got 4 or 5 FPs every day, and that's at DL where there aren't a whole lot of FP rides, and the park was definitely busy, being peak Summer time.

FP+ would really not have given us any advantages, and would have severely limited us. Single rider was by far the biggest advantage, since ALL of our RSR, MH, and Indy rides were single rider. We easily bypassed 10+ hours of lines in total with single rider.

Although, I must admit, I'm very tempted to do a quick WDW trip in October, staying at a test resort, so we can abuse the heck out of the FP- system with old room keys. But I'd be too afraid that they close the loophole before our trip.

Still have yet to see ANYTHING to make me have any second guesses on my opinion about FP+ ruining WDW. I did notice the website that shall not be mentioned made a big deal about how their magic bands didn't cause tan lines, and that they are just awesome. Gotta wonder if Disney is paying people to do positive spin for the magic bands.

I know at D23, they had a HUGE magic band section in the Imagineering pavilion, probably twice the size of any other area, like those boring animatronics and effects, and nobody was in there.

Jason

 

[BeerMe]

I think FP+ will destroy all life on earth as we know it.

 

[LSUfan4444]

I believe they feel that they can book their 3 allotted fast passes at a park they could hop to later in the day. They would hit rope drop at the park of their choice and ride all their favorite rides, with hopefully a short wait, and then hop to the park where they reserved their 3 fast passes prior.

Thats exactly it.

 

[LSUfan4444]

I think FP+ will destroy all life on earth as we know it.

less people on earth = shorter standby times

 

[LSUfan4444]

I think the people that will have the hardest time making the transition are those who:

-do not want to plan ADRs and a park schedule at least 60 days in advance
-do not arrive prior to rope drop
-do not have hoppers
-are quite dependent on the current paper FP system with their current touring style

 

[BeerMe]

less people on earth = shorter standby times

I never looked at it that way!

 

[Mad Hattered]

I think FP+ will destroy all life on earth as we know it.

 

[KatieCharlotte]

I think the people that will have the hardest time making the transition are those who:

-do not want to plan ADRs and a park schedule at least 60 days in advance
-do not arrive prior to rope drop
-do not have hoppers
-are quite dependent on the current paper FP system with their current touring style

(1) Yes, we do not do ADRs. Usually we know what park we'll be going to each day, but we prefer flexibility in case of weather or illness.
(2) We do arrive prior to rope drop. (But part of this is the thrill of rushing to score early fastpasses for TSMM and Soarin' and then jumping in the short standby lines for TSMM and Test Track. And then getting more fastpasses for Soarin' )
(3) Yes, we have never had hoppers.
(4) Yes, I am extremely dependent on the current paper FP system, especially at MK. And my husband is our noncomplaining fastpass runner.

Plus..
(5) My children are extremely unpredictable in what they feel capable of riding and always have new favorites that they want to ride over and over.
(6) I don't trust technology, and I do not want to be constantly on my husband's smartphone while on vacation.
(7) We stay offsite and no one knows if we'll be treated differently under FP+.

 

[olenygiants]

I recently was at Disneyland for D23 and 5 park days. And the whole time I was comparing how FP+ would impact my days.

I must say, I think it would have devistated them. First up, my wife was sick and didn't go with my son and I the first two days, so that could have royally screwed her out of a big ride if the only day we got an FP+ for a big ride was one of her sick days.

Also, we never arrived at RD, which was 8 AM! Just too early for us, since none of us were 100%. We got there between 10 and 11 most day, so we missed the gravy RD times, and at least one FP. However, we still got 4 or 5 FPs every day, and that's at DL where there aren't a whole lot of FP rides, and the park was definitely busy, being peak Summer time.

FP+ would really not have given us any advantages, and would have severely limited us. Single rider was by far the biggest advantage, since ALL of our RSR, MH, and Indy rides were single rider. We easily bypassed 10+ hours of lines in total with single rider.

Although, I must admit, I'm very tempted to do a quick WDW trip in October, staying at a test resort, so we can abuse the heck out of the FP- system with old room keys. But I'd be too afraid that they close the loophole before our trip.

Still have yet to see ANYTHING to make me have any second guesses on my opinion about FP+ ruining WDW. I did notice the website that shall not be mentioned made a big deal about how their magic bands didn't cause tan lines, and that they are just awesome. Gotta wonder if Disney is paying people to do positive spin for the magic bands.

I know at D23, they had a HUGE magic band section in the Imagineering pavilion, probably twice the size of any other area, like those boring animatronics and effects, and nobody was in there.

Jason

Okay, so you start out by stating how bad you think the new system is going to be and how it would have been bad for you and how your family would not be able to ride the bigger rides because of it.

And then you state that you want to take a quick trip to WDW to abuse the system, so you can get as many fast passes as you can. And using old deactivated tickets from previous trips.

So let me get this right, you critique the new system about how it would have affected your trip negatively, but you are fine with exploiting the system using a loophole when it benefits you.

That is not only hypocritical of you, but selfish. You sir are part of the problem.

 

[rastuso]

I'm hardly the only person on here saying they would abuse the system, AKA use it as Disney has it currently programmed.

When everyone is going 75 on the freeway, are you the guy that pulls into the right lane and sets the cruise control at 55?

Do you check you tax returns to make sure not that you are missing a deduction, but that you are paying the government as much as you possibly can?

Have you even been waived through on Fastpasses, only to realize they are 15 minutes too old, and leave the line to go join standby?

FP+ sucking has nothing to do with a stupid change Disney has done to their FP- system, out of incompetence, poor infrastructure design, or just lazy programming,that now allows for crazy abuse while following the current program.

Jason

Jason

 

[olenygiants]

I'm hardly the only person on here saying they would abuse the system, AKA use it as Disney has it currently programmed.

When everyone is going 75 on the freeway, are you the guy that pulls into the right lane and sets the cruise control at 55?

Do you check you tax returns to make sure not that you are missing a deduction, but that you are paying the government as much as you possibly can?

Have you even been waived through on Fastpasses, only to realize they are 15 minutes too old, and leave the line to go join standby?

FP+ sucking has nothing to do with a stupid change Disney has done to their FP- system, out of incompetence, poor infrastructure design, or just lazy programming,that now allows for crazy abuse while following the current program.

Jason

Jason

I am going to ignore the ignorance of questions that has nothing to do with this.

Disney has stated they are fine with people using there KTTW card and magicbands for fastpasses. That is not the issue. The issue is you said that you were going to get all of your old cards and go and completely "abuse" the system. For you and everyone who does this, it is wrong.

By using the word "abuse" you clearly know what you are doing is not right.

And the problem with this is, you are affecting the trip of others which you clearly do not seem worried about. By you getting 50 fastpasses in a day, that means someone else who is following the system as designed is not.

Do me a favor and call Disney and ask them what there opinion is of you bringing old deactivated cards in the park and getting tons of fastpasses? If they tell you it is okay, then you will not hear another word from me on it.

And yes, there are bugs and issues, that is why it is still being tested.

 

[PrettyFlower2]

I think FP+ will destroy all life on earth as we know it.

This

 

[Paula Sedley-Burke]

This

Lol. Why just Earth? ....

 

[rastuso]

I am going to ignore the ignorance of questions that has nothing to do with this.

Disney has stated they are fine with people using there KTTW card and magicbands for fastpasses. That is not the issue. The issue is you said that you were going to get all of your old cards and go and completely "abuse" the system. For you and everyone who does this, it is wrong.

By using the word "abuse" you clearly know what you are doing is not right.

And the problem with this is, you are affecting the trip of others which you clearly do not seem worried about. By you getting 50 fastpasses in a day, that means someone else who is following the system as designed is not.

Do me a favor and call Disney and ask them what there opinion is of you bringing old deactivated cards in the park and getting tons of fastpasses? If they tell you it is okay, then you will not hear another word from me on it.

And yes, there are bugs and issues, that is why it is still being tested.

Those questions were VERY valid. If you are getting in your ivory tower now, you best not be a hypocrite in the rest of your life.

I would assume nearly everyone who is aware of this is doing it to some degree right now. Sorta like when there was an official thread that kept track of what FP machines weren't on the main grid. Disney didn't advertise this, but PLENTY "abused" it.

I think this is just one more example of how horrible an idea FP+ is. If this double dipping is going to be possible from now until whenever the FP- machines disappear (probably at least 6 months), I don't think the number of "abusers" is going to continually decline during that time.

I've read a handful of folks already saying they've done it quite extensively. I'd assume right now, as you read this, someone is putting expired park/resort media into an FP machine and getting valid FPs.

And I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking of an impromptu trip. Maybe this is Disney's way of letting everyone get the next 5 years worth of FPs before FP+ severely limits us all.

You'll only get 3 a day then, but for a limited time, you can get 30!
(While IT department incompetence lasts).

Jason

 

[sheetz]

Saying FP+ will "ruin" my WDW experience is probably an exaggeration, but it doesn't exactly make me want to run out and book my next vacation there, either. In fact it makes Universal's express pass system sound a lot more attractive.

 

[Magalex]

I just came across some inconsistent information from a popular Disney fan/info facebook page. I was told off-site guests will also be able to use Fastpass +. The article/info guide to fastpass + now states it will be only for on-site guests. I also checked with a Disney travel agent and she told it will be for every one. We do stay on-site usually but next year we are not because we are making it a Sea World vacation and just maybe 3 days skipping over to WDW but not staying on-site.