Coronavirus and DCL Megathread - Suspension of Departures for the fleet until early November. Booking only available from early December.

[travelmomof3]

At the stores by me they have one-way aisles and stickers 6 feet apart that you have to stand on when you’re lined up to pay. They’ve installed plexiglass between the cashier and the customer. At my small grocery store you are 6 feet away from the cashier when you’re putting items in the belt, at the local pharmacy store where there’s no belt the installed plexiglass with a cut out at the bottom that you have to shove your items through. At both stores when you are paying, the cashier steps back. The machines are sanitized in between each person using them and the cashiers are no longer allowed to bag anything, you have to do it all yourself with plastic bags (can’t bring your own anymore). Both stores also have sanitizer and/or a hand washing station set up at the entrance to the store!

We go for walks every day in our neighborhood and we’ve never had difficulties keeping 6 feet apart from others that we pass! Usually one party will move off the sidewalk to the road while they’re passing.

So we’ve definitely gotten creative with ways to keep 6 feet apart from people!

Yes, same here - we went hiking on day on a nearby trail and everyone that we passed were good about distancing!

 

[DisneyWishes14]

In terms of social distancing on ships, testing, etc., DCL and the other cruise lines sailing in and out of US ports will do no more and no less than what they are required to do by the CDC.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

The rapid tests are not proven to be anything but a point in time. As such, their impact for a 6-hour flight is different than putting people on a ship for 72+ hours.

There has already been talk of trying to force through state and federal legislation removing liability from certain businesses for viral infections. I doubt cruises would be included, due to that whole foreign flag thing.

 

[PirateFrank]

It's amazing how so many of us are speculating what cruise life will be like when it reopens...but my first thought is who the heck wants to pay 10-20k for a cruise while these sort of nutty social distancing rules apply? Its just not possible on a ship. People line up for dinner, save seats in the theater, bring drinks into the pools, dont wash their hands before going into cabanas - all despite being told to not to...repeatedly. If anyone thinks that social distancing and wearing a mask out on deck is going to stop these same people, they're living a pipe dream. I guess some people like fantasizing about imposing social rules on others....

I really think that the cruising industry is going to have to endure a hard pause until the threat of this virus is either neutralized (unlikely) or minimized to acceptable levels (far more likely).

 

[randumb0]

It's amazing how so many of us are speculating what cruise life will be like when it reopens...

What else is there to do? It's not like we can talk about our upcoming cruise or the cruise we just disembarked

 

[Garyjames220]

It's amazing how so many of us are speculating what cruise life will be like when it reopens...but my first thought is who the heck wants to pay 10-20k for a cruise while these sort of nutty social distancing rules apply? Its just not possible on a ship. People line up for dinner, save seats in the theater, bring drinks into the pools, dont wash their hands before going into cabanas - all despite being told to not to...repeatedly. If anyone thinks that social distancing and wearing a mask out on deck is going to stop these same people, they're living a pipe dream. I guess some people like fantasizing about imposing social rules on others....

I really think that the cruising industry is going to have to endure a hard pause until the threat of this virus is either neutralized (unlikely) or minimized to acceptable levels (far more likely).

Thankfully my cruises are a lot cheaper than that

 

[PirateFrank]

What else is there to do? It's not like we can talk about our upcoming cruise or the cruise we just disembarked

LOL! Thats for sure!!

 

[_auroraborealis_]

All I know is that when this is all done, I've found a small ship line that will allow me to kayak off the ship into Glacier Bay, includes all the booze, allows my kids, and costs less than DCL with a verandah.

Guess what imma booking.

 

[Karin1984]

Tonight, in my country (Netherlands) the PM announced that most measures are extended till May 20th. Everything is based on what our hospitals can handle. Yes, there are less people in the hospitals, there are less people in the ICs, but the figures are not where they should be to open up fully.

First opening up, as of May 11th, after Spring Break is over: schools & sports (open air) for children till 12 years old will be back in session, but with conditions. Classes will be split in half and alternate between schooldays, for sports it means no competitions, shower at home, no parents supporting while kids are training.
Restaurants, theaters, museums etc. will remain closed, work from home as much as possible, no unnecessary travel, 6ft distance. Shops have always been able to remain open, provided they could take the necessary measures. For now hairdressers and nail salons etc also remain closed, but we will get an update in the coming weeks. No events till September 1st.

Our PM mentioned during tonight's press conference about the contact he has with fellow PMs to discuss how each country is handling the crisis and how they make their decisions. And I think we can say in Europe we are following each other's example. Germany cancelled Oktoberfest, not entirely sure if the Berlin Marathon got cancelled (according to media yes, according to someone in the Run threads not).

Based on what I heard tonight, my guess is that in Europe tourist attractions will reopen this summer, however I think countries will only allow domestic tourists, and maybe (limited) EU visitors. So even if Disney can find a way to cruise, I don't think any cruise ship will be allowed in any EU country this summer.
The only ones I might see happening are the cruises from Denmark, but I would say the chance is very small.

I heard the national airline is now at 10% of their flights, prediction is at the end of 2020 it will be at 40%.

 

[Starwind]

An interesting non-peer-reviewed early release research letter has been published in the CDC's Emerging Infectious Diseases Journal, that if validated will likely have implications for venues such as cruise ship restaurants and by extensions the ships themselves:

Volume 26, Number 7—July 2020
Research Letter
COVID-19 Outbreak Associated with Air Conditioning in Restaurant, Guangzhou, China, 2020
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0764_article
"Abstract

During January 26–February 10, 2020, an outbreak of 2019 novel coronavirus disease in an air-conditioned restaurant in Guangzhou, China, involved 3 family clusters. The airflow direction was consistent with droplet transmission. To prevent the spread of the virus in restaurants, we recommend increasing the distance between tables and improving ventilation.
"

Basically, ONE infected person is believed to have infected 9 other diners across 3 tables (their own and 2 others). Diners at other tables (and even some at the same tables who did have people who got infected) and none of the staff got infected.

Implications for table spacing and A/C airflow patterns.

SW

 

[GrrArrgh]

We were supposed to go to the Oberammergau performance with my mom this June in Germany. It was rescheduled to 2022. At least for some countries, I think it will be quite a while before anything that creates a crowd will be back, social distancing plans or not.

 

[BadPinkTink]

Today my country Ireland banned any licenced event over 5,000 people until August, which means concerts, sports events, pageants and festivals

 

[AquaDame]

This is clearly turning into quite a political debate. I'm going to go back and delete the arguing, and lets please get the thread back on topic.

 

[Seamama]

Accidental post, sorry.

 

[WishUponAStarryNight]

It looks like all Med sailings have been pulled from the website. First posted Magic sailing is July 25 out of Dover.

 

[JM_97]

It looks like all Med sailings have been pulled from the website. First posted Magic sailing is July 25 out of Dover.

I guess the Magic will sail with just crew members from Port Canaveral to Dover? No official transatlantic sailing

 

[DisneyWishes14]

It's amazing how so many of us are speculating what cruise life will be like when it reopens...but my first thought is who the heck wants to pay 10-20k for a cruise while these sort of nutty social distancing rules apply? Its just not possible on a ship. People line up for dinner, save seats in the theater, bring drinks into the pools, dont wash their hands before going into cabanas - all despite being told to not to...repeatedly. If anyone thinks that social distancing and wearing a mask out on deck is going to stop these same people, they're living a pipe dream. I guess some people like fantasizing about imposing social rules on others....

I really think that the cruising industry is going to have to endure a hard pause until the threat of this virus is either neutralized (unlikely) or minimized to acceptable levels (far more likely).

Yes, this. DCL (and the Disney Parks, IMHO) already have a very hard time enforcing the rules they currently have (no line cutting, saving theater seats, etc.). There is no way they want to enforce mask-wearing and social distancing and there are guests that will absolutely fight against any mandated behavior. I keep imagining security being called on guests who refuse to wear their masks and, then what? Security has to deal with these guests and possibly put their own health at risk? I don't think Disney is going to put their guests or their employees in that situation. One of Disney's mantras is "we can't control guest behavior" and they really can't. I completely agree that cruising isn't starting again in and out of US ports until the virus is under control in a way that we can get back to something that resembles "normal" in terms of how we interact with each other.

 

[Ralph&Pam]

It looks like all Med sailings have been pulled from the website. First posted Magic sailing is July 25 out of Dover.

I think that was reported last month: Https://disneycruiselineblog.com/page/9/

 

[WishUponAStarryNight]

I think that was reported last month: Https://disneycruiselineblog.com/page/9/

I must have missed that.

 

[BadPinkTink]

I guess the Magic will sail with just crew members from Port Canaveral to Dover? No official transatlantic sailing

This is what I have been saying for the last few weeks, since all this started