Coronavirus and DCL Megathread - Suspension of Departures for the fleet until early November. Booking only available from early December.

[_auroraborealis_]

Can the CDC actually order cruise-lines not to sail.?They are not flagged in the US. I’m didn’t know the cdc had that kind of power.Anybody know the answer to that?

The CDC can block them from embarking or disembarking passengers at US ports. The CDC can also block cruise passenger use of commercial airline flights. The USCG can refuse to help with corona-related evacuations.

So, they can make it impossible to work from Port Canaveral or any other DCL home port on US soil.

 

[smmco]

I think what the CDC can do is set requirements for US ports. So by saying "no sailings out of US ports" that essentially becomes a "no cruise order" for any cruiseline with current itineraries embarking at US ports. Unless a cruiseline modifies an itinerary to remove the US ports -- including embark/debark -- they would have to cancel the cruise. The CDC's orders wouldn't pertain to cruises/cruiselines that don't involve US ports.

The last order was voluntary. Isn’t it the Governor that would decide. I don’t think the cdc has the power to shut down ports. Don’t they just make recommendations?

 

[_auroraborealis_]

The last order was voluntary. Isn’t it the Governor that would decide. I don’t think the cdc has the power to shut down ports. Don’t they just make recommendations?

This isn't voluntary. The USCG is also involved here, and they can shut down ports, prevent embark/disembark, and deny evacuation services. Which is all contained in this order.

 

[Kidanifan08]

The post is back on the CDC website. The order was revised to 100 days:

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/index.html

 

[gotomu212]

The last order was voluntary. Isn’t it the Governor that would decide. I don’t think the cdc has the power to shut down ports. Don’t they just make recommendations?

It’s listed right in the order and their authority comes from the CFR which is administrative law and USC law. The CDC director has the right to detain ships under certain public health scenarios. You can read the specific quotes sections of the CFR and the USC citations. Additionally as these are interstate and international travel the federal government has authority to act.

 

[DurangoJim]

Anyone have any info on the likelihood that the Mediterranean sailings in June? A good friend is booked for one of the departures that goes to Italy and Greece the second week of June and hasn’t heard anything. I’m thinking it’ll be cancelled.

 

[kimwoje]

Is the new No Sail Order effective 100 days from today or 100 days from the original order date of 3/14? Is it just me that is finding it unclear?

 

[smmco]

It’s listed right in the order and their authority comes from the CFR which is administrative law and USC law. The CDC director has the right to detain ships under certain public health scenarios. You can read the specific quotes sections of the CFR and the USC citations. Additionally as these are interstate and international travel the federal government has authority to act.

It did read the cdc gained more powers after 2017.

 

[smmco]

Is the new No Sail Order effective 100 days from today or 100 days from the original order date of 3/14? Is it just me that is finding it unclear?

I found that unclear too.

 

[ajo]

The post is back on the CDC website. The order was revised to 100 days:

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/index.html

I read it to say that it is for 100 days from today's date, which would make it valid until July 18 at the longest. If the other two things happen before 100 days (end of public health emergency or the order is recinded/modified), then the order is lifted.

 

[gotomu212]

It did read the cdc gained more powers after 2017.

?? Those CFR and USC provisions have been around for awhile. The CFR ones in particular are from 2003 and amended in 2012. You can literally google all of this very easily.

 

[smmco]

?? Those CFR and USC provisions have been around for awhile. The CFR ones in particular are from 2003 and amended in 2012. You can literally google all of this very easily.

If I have insomnia tonight I’ll look it up.

 

[MomOTwins]

So I cancelled my June 1st Alaska cruise back in mid March when this thing first started. I just got an email a couple hours ago from Disney that they will be refunding my cancellation fees (basically the deposit) I'm pretty happy with them about this. They could have just kept my cancellation money.

Thanks for sharing. Did you specifically ask for a refund or did they do it automatically? We cancelled a room on a May Dream cruise last week and wondering if we will get our deposit back when they inevitably cancel.

 

[Starwind]

FYI, the new CDC no sail order has this to say about they Disney Wonder on page 3:

"The Wonder reported four crew members who have tested positive for COVID-19. Two of the four are now hospitalized, the two others are isolated on the ship; an additional three former passengers (from the last voyage who disembarked) are also positive. "

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/No-Sail-Order-Cruise-Ships_Extension_4-9-20-encrypted.pdf

 

[Birdie dog]

FYI, the new CDC no sail order has this to say about they Disney Wonder on page 3:

"The Wonder reported four crew members who have tested positive for COVID-19. Two of the four are now hospitalized, the two others are isolated on the ship; an additional three former passengers (from the last voyage who disembarked) are also positive. "

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/No-Sail-Order-Cruise-Ships_Extension_4-9-20-encrypted.pdf

One of the sick passengers works with my best friend. She's also a nurse. She's not hospitalized, but home on quarantine.

 

[Meriweather]

I wish they would cancel the cruises farther out......I know they don't want the phone line swamped.
I want to cancel my June 6 cruise, but can't yet without penalty.

 

[NAB]

We cancelled our Hawaiian one yesterday , it was pretty easy and didn’t even have to wait. Maybe because we waited a few days after they cancelled it. Maybe we were just lucky .

They say you may hear children or a dog barking in the background since their doing all this from home.

 

[Theactualdisneyprincess]

Is the new No Sail Order effective 100 days from today or 100 days from the original order date of 3/14? Is it just me that is finding it unclear?

I was finding that unclear as well.

 

[Tay N Evie's Mom]

https://apple.news/As5kFRxFLSsuChysTTtassQ
I found this article a few minutes ago and it was helpful.

 

[o&smom]

FYI, the new CDC no sail order has this to say about they Disney Wonder on page 3:

"The Wonder reported four crew members who have tested positive for COVID-19. Two of the four are now hospitalized, the two others are isolated on the ship; an additional three former passengers (from the last voyage who disembarked) are also positive. "

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/No-Sail-Order-Cruise-Ships_Extension_4-9-20-encrypted.pdf

That number is not updated/correct. My husband and I both tested positive after starting to feel “symptoms” within two days of getting home. So that is two right there. And, I have heard of more than just one other person testing positive once they got home and could be tested.