Conversations with two CM's about the Dining Plan

[mjkaferle5]

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[jjplus3]

Well, to get back to the point, thanks for all of your answers - I'll keep the cards with whomever has the kids so we can do what we need to do, and not worry about the credits until they're a problem. Wish us luck! It is still a bit overwhelming - there's so much to plan, if we're going to make the most of our trip without exhausting the kids (ie, making them cranky).

 

[Lewisc]

Read the brochure. There is no such thing as a child credit. All credits are aggregated. Disney followed the same procedure with prior plans. Rules are clear. Although many of us call it a "loophole" it's really not unintended. Disney decided to trade off a few guests getting more food in excahnge for simplicity.

WWJD? Probably tell you not to judge others for violating rules that you made up.

Well I guess you will do whatever you need to do. You even went as far as to try and find a 'loophole' around the question WWJD?.

That selfish, take it while I can, gimmee, gimmee, gimmee attitude has caused the majority of the problems in the world (especially this country) today. From big corporations all the way down..........

I'm sure when you were a child your favorite phrase was, "HE/SHE GOT ONE!!".

Morals have to start somewhere and I guess they aren't starting with you.

"What is right or wrong?" Wow that makes me think. Instead I'll just do what I want.

Digressing.........

 

[mjkaferle5]

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[Lewisc]

Since when is following rules "cheating"? You're making up a rule that says TS credits, paid for at the child rate, can't be used to purchase a meal to be order by, and consumed by, an adult.

Not only are you judging others but your judging them not on breaking a Disney rule but rather by breaking a rule you made up.

What rule did I supposedly make up? I am in favor of 'not cheating the system'.


Sorry if I was 'judging' others. I guess I got a little carried away trying to make a point.

My apologies.......

 

[mjkaferle5]

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[Lewisc]

But I didn't say that it was ok you so you'd be lying. WWJD?

Of course I'm assuming you're older than the age specified for a child ticket.

I'm surprised Disney decided to favor plan simplicity in not offering child and adult meal credits. I'm astonished that you see the need to invent a rule so you can attack the moral character of those who don't follow your imaginary rule.

OK. If this doesn't sound odd to you.......

Next time I go to the movies I will pay child rate. Something tells me they won't let me do that...........but I'll tell them you said it was OK.

 

[LoveWDW]

1. Can I pay for my friends meals with my credits? no you have to pay cash or cc for theirs

I have an email from Disney in which I asked if we could use our DP credits to pay for meals for my bil and his friend when we treat them for a meal. I was told that we could. Has this changed?

 

[lucincia]

OK. If this doesn't sound odd to you.......

Next time I go to the movies I will pay child rate. Something tells me they won't let me do that...........but I'll tell them you said it was OK.

Using your example, the theater sells same kind of tickets to adults and children, but charges children less. The tickets look the same, no marking of any kind dictating if one is adult or child. In this manner, the tickets can be used by anyone, adult and child, because there is no differentiation. If they want it different, they would mark it different.

But we already know that those who abide by the imaginary rules are much better than the rest of us.

And, just for your info, we don't plan to use this "loophole" in our upcoming trip. Most of our meals are at character buffets, so it does not affect us in anyway, with or without loopholes. Just find it funny how some people here preach about ethics and such as though their world is perfect.

 

[Harmony]

I think the right question to ask is "What would Jesus do?". And I think he would avoid the loophole. JMHO

Oh gee, the "I'm better than you attitude" that I've witnessed on the dis lately has reached a new low.

 

[Good Ol Gal]

I have an email from Disney in which I asked if we could use our DP credits to pay for meals for my bil and his friend when we treat them for a meal. I was told that we could. Has this changed?

When we purchased the dining plan I was told that we could buy our parents dinner with it if we so chose to use our credits that way.

 

[bicker]

Pretty-much on schedule (it typically occurs between message 40 and 50), this thread has degraded. Seeyas.

 

[mjkaferle5]

Sorry all. I never meant to give the impression I was better than others. I suppose I used the wrong 'plan of attack' in making my argument.


I'll simplify it: I'll use an adult credit for an adult. I'll use a child credit for a child.

Everyone do as you like, but that is what I am doing.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

 

[Lewisc]

The problem isn't with your "plan of attack". The problem is with your argument. There is no such thing as a child credit or an adult credit.

Assume you have 2 children and 2 adults. You eat together and use 4 TS per night. The second to last night the two adults go to a signature restaurant without the kids. The waiter charges your account 4 credits. The last night your family goes out to dinner. You have 2 TS credits remaining. Under your imaginary rules you should insist on paying for the 2 adult meals and use the 2 remaining credits for the children. OR the last night the 4 of you go to a signature restaurant. Do the 4 remaining credits go to pay for the 2 adults or 1 child and 1 adult? Should you follow Disney's rules and just pay for the kids or your imaginary rule and pay for one child and one adult meal?

If too many guests take advantage of Disney's generous rules Disney may change the rules but that doesn't make you better than guests who chose to follow Disney's rules and not your imaginary rules.

It's a good thing most of us chose to quote your original posts otherwise our replies would be out of context.

Of course you meant to say you had higher ethical standards than people who don't follow your imaginary rules.

Sorry all. I never meant to give the impression I was better than others. I suppose I used the wrong 'plan of attack' in making my argument.


I'll simplify it: I'll use an adult credit for an adult. I'll use a child credit for a child.

Everyone do as you like, but that is what I am doing.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

 

[idoteech]

I assume that if Disney was hurting bad enough financially from this they would have never offered FREE dining for several months. I will be spending MORE money at Disney now that I will use some of my child's credits to pay for my parents' meals, so they're still getting my money either way. There is no loophole as the previous poster said, b/c when you read on the dining pdf doc, it says NOTHING about separating credits. WWJD? He would have probably wrote "No Flaming" in the sand.

This is the reply I received from my Disney travel agent:

"One of the biggest reasons why every CM has a different story is because the call centers are not all in Orlando or in Walt Disney World for that matter - you could get a CM on the phone in Salt Lake City, Utah who hasn't stepped foot in a WDW restaurant in 4 years - their job is to sell rooms.

From the understanding I have, they are as of right now pooling credits. However this is a practice they are looking to stop as it's not beneficial to WDW to sell a $9.99 childs meal plan for a day for the parent to eat $20 entrees and $10 desserts. If this change is to be made, it will be done in the new year.

When something is made official, it will be on Disney's website or it will be on our Disney Travel Agents site."

I hope everyone has a WONDERFUL trip to Disney.

 

[Frantasmic]

Like other dining threads I have seen here, I guess the conclusion is that Disney pools credits currently. If you explain what you are doing at the restaurant you are dining at, most CMs will tell you what is and is not allowed. What is and is not allowed varies from place to place, despite what is said in the Disney brochure explaining MYW dining.

Currently, one CAN or MAY use a child credit to pay for an adult meal because the current application of the plan as Disney outlines and practices is to pool credits and a credit is a credit.

Whether one SHOULD do this is something that everyone will have to decide on their own; however, it is not against the current rules of the plan per se as written and practiced by Disney and managed by CMs at various restaurants.

 

[mjkaferle5]

The problem isn't with your "plan of attack". The problem is with your argument. There is no such thing as a child credit or an adult credit.

Assume you have 2 children and 2 adults. You eat together and use 4 TS per night. The second to last night the two adults go to a signature restaurant without the kids. The waiter charges your account 4 credits. The last night your family goes out to dinner. You have 2 TS credits remaining. Under your imaginary rules you should insist on paying for the 2 adult meals and use the 2 remaining credits for the children. OR the last night the 4 of you go to a signature restaurant. Do the 4 remaining credits go to pay for the 2 adults or 1 child and 1 adult? Should you follow Disney's rules and just pay for the kids or your imaginary rule and pay for one child and one adult meal?

If too many guests take advantage of Disney's generous rules Disney may change the rules but that doesn't make you better than guests who chose to follow Disney's rules and not your imaginary rules.

It's a good thing most of us chose to quote your original posts otherwise our replies would be out of context.

Of course you meant to say you had higher ethical standards than people who don't follow your imaginary rules.

Lewisc - I appreciate your explaination of the way the plan is currently. I can clearly understand where you are coming from now. I was/am wrong. But my 'understanding' was based on other threads etc. that I have read. So I didn't try to make up an 'imaginary' rule. I thought that was the way it was/is.

I deleted my posts because I was embarrassed for myself by the things I wrote. I went a little overboard. But true, you do have the quotes to refer to.

One other thing -- Please don't tell me what I meant to say. I said what I said. You said what you said. Even though I argued your opinion, you still had your opinion and I had mine. Not once did I mention that I didn't know what I meant. And I also didn't ask you to tell me. In the same way I was pushing things a little bit, now you are too.

 

[dismom03]

It's funny how convoluted the DP planning can get. If those of you who are pooling your credits and stretching them out to get more meals are worried that Disney is not going to pool them together anymore (and it might "ruin" your plans), I suggest that you create a schedule for both methods.

This way, if you begin dining at WDW and find that they have decided to count a child's credit as that, you would have a non-stressful backup plan and cancel the extra ADR's you have.

Personally, I am thrilled with the DP just as it is. If you do the math, most days the TS meal pretty much pays for the DP and it's like you get the CS nd snacks for "free".

Disney is coming out so far ahead with the DP for our family. We usually wouldn't eat in the parks except for a few meals. With us on the DP, they are getting ALL of our money for food items in their parks.

I hope if you purchased the DP that you sit back and enjoy the fact that you can eat at some nice, relaxing TS meals without having to worry about tax and gratuity and that your DS are touching their food. My smallest one never eats more than a few bites of anything and I always "stress" about buying her food that she never eats. The DP frees me up because I feel like I am coming out ahead if she eats at the nicer places (like buffets, etc.) and if she only eats a little more than normal, hey, it's worth it.

When it comes down to it, you come out ahead and so does Disney with this DP. If it's causing you stress and worry, I'm sorry. For our family, it's a blessing and is helping to make planning worry-free!

Good luck to all of you and happy Disney dining!

 

[mjkaferle5]

It's funny how convoluted the DP planning can get. If those of you who are pooling your credits and stretching them out to get more meals are worried that Disney is not going to pool them together anymore (and it might "ruin" your plans), I suggest that you create a schedule for both methods.

This way, if you begin dining at WDW and find that they have decided to count a child's credit as that, you would have a non-stressful backup plan and cancel the extra ADR's you have.

Personally, I am thrilled with the DP just as it is. If you do the math, most days the TS meal pretty much pays for the DP and it's like you get the CS nd snacks for "free".

Disney is coming out so far ahead with the DP for our family. We usually wouldn't eat in the parks except for a few meals. With us on the DP, they are getting ALL of our money for food items in their parks.

I hope if you purchased the DP that you sit back and enjoy the fact that you can eat at some nice, relaxing TS meals without having to worry about tax and gratuity and that your DS are touching their food. My smallest one never eats more than a few bites of anything and I always "stress" about buying her food that she never eats. The DP frees me up because I feel like I am coming out ahead if she eats at the nicer places (like buffets, etc.) and if she only eats a little more than normal, hey, it's worth it.

When it comes down to it, you come out ahead and so does Disney with this DP. If it's causing you stress and worry, I'm sorry. For our family, it's a blessing and is helping to make planning worry-free!

Good luck to all of you and happy Disney dining!

Thanks. Point well said.

 

[biz410]

I called Disney Dining to change a reservation and specifically asked whether or not paying for kids and using their credits was allowed.

The CM put me on hold for about 5 minutes to confer with a supervisor, then returned and said IT IS ALLOWED.

Therefore, I can dine at California Grill and Narcoossee's confident that I can still enter the Kingdom of Heaven once my time on the planet has expired.

Also, when I asked if La Cellier was a one or two credit meal, the CM asked me what date I would be there. When I told her December, she said it was "still" one TS credit in December. Look for that to change. It was my understanding that it already was a Signature.