Contracts drying up??

[AstroBlasters]

Is that unpopular?

I feel like the board is very buyer focused and some things that are from an owner selling point of view are looked at as “not being on the same team”.

 

[atthebeachclub]

I feel like the board is very buyer focused and some things that are from an owner selling point of view is looked at as “not being on the same team”.

Seems like Econ 101! Supply and demand curve basics. Even as buyers, that much should be obvious to all of us. The nice part of DVC is it isn’t a struggle to take a Disney vacation or rent your points, so sellers have alternatives to selling.

 

[Chili327]

I wish I had enough points to be in need of having to rent some out.

 

[AstroBlasters]

I wish I had enough points to be in need of having to rent some out.

I’m going to shoot straight with you…. it’s pretty fabulous!

My next rolling 12 months:
Next week: Aulani 2BD OV
September: Disneyland- VDH Duo Garden
October: Disneyland Halloween - VGC 2BD
November: Disneyland Christmas- VGC 2BD
March: Walt Disney World Spring Break- BW BWV/VGF LV 2BD
May: Disneyland Star Wars Night- VGC 2BD
June: Aulani GV

May 2025 subject to change if wife won’t let me pull oldest from school due to coursework or state testing.

 

[Chili327]

I’m going to shoot straight with you…. it’s pretty fabulous!

Oh that’s just mean. lol

 

[DougEMG]

DVCforLess.com is a DVC drug haven for DVC drug-addicted druggies who only do DVC drugs. If you and or your friends like DVC, don't go to DVCforLess.com. Let me be the victim and pick up a nice August contract on the cheap since you won't be there to buy it.

I check everything for our August UY. We thought September would be our year of travel, but it's not. Now, we are stuck. Kind of like our 3.125% mortgage. So I only search that UY. But yeah, I look at all resorts, some more keenly than others.

And since we have gone from 220 points to 395 in two months, I'm probably not even close to done...

Just went to that site for the first time....awesome site.....although it did make me put in an offer on a contract when I wasn't even looking for something!

 

[Chili327]

Just went to that site for the first time....awesome site.....although it did make me put in an offer on a contract when I wasn't even looking for something!

Hahaha, that's the greatest thing I've seen all week.!!

 

[Chili327]

Also looks like https://dvcsearch.com might be back in business?

 

[MerlinandtheMouse]

Also looks like https://dvcsearch.com might be back in business?

I’ve always liked the simplicity of this site, glad it’s back!

Also just saw a BWV pending with asking price at $88 it was stripped but still…wonder if someone here got it.

 

[Chili327]

I’ve always liked the simplicity of this site, glad it’s back!

Also just saw a BWV pending with asking price at $88 it was stripped but still…wonder if someone here got it.

I think it's still sorta broken, but at least it has had an update, so its a sign it could be coming back.

 

[DougEMG]

Just went to that site for the first time....awesome site.....although it did make me put in an offer on a contract when I wasn't even looking for something!

Offer was accepted....I definitely must not go to that site again.

 

[Chili327]

Offer was accepted....I definitely must not go to that site again.

Oh that's too funny... so what did you get??

 

[DougEMG]

Oh that's too funny... so what did you get??

Another RIV contract.

 

[TinkAgainU]

I also have been watching and have some saved searches on https://www.dvcforless.com/
What confuses me are the contracts that are STILL there, not the lack of contracts or the contracts that disappear quickly. What is the deal with these contracts that sit for months and months and months? Some of them are completely loaded and the ppp is not great but not the worst. What gives?

What seems to escape many is how critical the Use Year can be in the sale. If you just look at price and coming points, many look the same, but if there were a ton of similar contracts (same UY) available recently, sometimes everyone looking for that particular combo already purchased, so it will take a while for a market to build for that combo again.

Some that have been for sale for over a year are simply overpriced and not flexible. Sadly, sometimes sellers are simply lonely and love the attention of having something for sale more than they need/want to sell it - and brokers go along with it to get "calls" so they can try to build their buyer database.

 

[kboo]

Wow - www.dvcforless.com is an eye opener. How did I not already know about this??

Me too... WHYYYY did I decide to read this thread???

Honestly I just see a lot of volatility in financial markets coupled with an economy still high in inflation and couple that with geo political uncertainty and an aging DVC population who have owned since the 90s and ready to move on with their contracts that have served them very well through the years and the downward trajectory we've seen DVC prices in the last few years...

Nothing concrete but I just feel a lot of these factors will play a role in getting ridiculously good prices soon.

Hoping ridiculously good prices might line up with my desire to add more Riviera (resale) points since my CA plan was destroyed around VDH opening. But now, after avoiding for months, seeing some GVC contracts asking <$250???

I wish I had enough points to be in need of having to rent some out.

It is pretty fabulous!

I’m going to shoot straight with you…. it’s pretty fabulous!

My next rolling 12 months:
Next week: Aulani 2BD OV
September: Disneyland- VDH Duo Garden
October: Disneyland Halloween - VGC 2BD
November: Disneyland Christmas- VGC 2BD
March: Walt Disney World Spring Break- BW BWV/VGF LV 2BD
May: Disneyland Star Wars Night- VGC 2BD
June: Aulani GV

May 2025 subject to change if wife won’t let me pull oldest from school due to coursework or state testing.

I haven't looked much into 2025* yet - here was/is 2024:
Earlier this year:
AK Moonlight Magic
EP Moonlight magic + friend weekend (RIV studio)
June - anniversary - VGF 1br
August -BLT 2br + RIV 2br + another family
Thanksgiving - VGF 1br (DD2 surprise birthday)
Christmas - VGC 2br

*Next year: member cruise
Sending a friend's family to a VGF studio
2 nieces got married in 2024, our wedding present to them in 2025 = a week in a studio for a vacation/honeymoon

 

[JulieBeeRN]

Trying.to.resist.going.to.website.

Meh, I caved, but also sent it to my husband bc I want him to think that it’s “his” idea.

 

[VGCgroupie]

All it took was two of the worst resale closing stints and I am cured!

I really don't need anything. But I'm open minded if Poly comes down to earth and Reflections has a lazy river. Or RIV keeps getting cheaper I guess... cured.

I feel ya. But I did sign another after my long ordeal. Hoping it doesn't take nearly as long. (still don't have those points yet)

 

[VGCgroupie]

I was partially cured by going on a non-Disney vacation. It made me realize that I don't want to go to Disney for every single vacation!

ohhh where did you go?

It further does not help when I discovered trading points via renting into cruises. There's another addiction I'm working through.

Do you use a broker? If so, which? My goal with 1 contract is to rent to swap for cruising.

But it's all good. I'm getting a hit right now by boarding a plane in a few hours for D23. CURED!

Im jealous!

 

[VGCgroupie]

I feel like the board is very buyer focused and some things that are from an owner selling point of view are looked at as “not being on the same team”.

Yeah we all talk about getting deals, and I LOVE deals. But now that I will own 4 contracts Id like prices to up and not down.

 

[BrianLo]

Do you use a broker? If so, which? My goal with 1 contract is to rent to swap for cruising.

Yup, https://dvcrequest.com/

There’s more tax implications if you rent your points independently and then use them for travel. So it’s certainly beneficial for this instance financially to use a broker, even if David’s rates seem a bit behind the curve.

www.dvcrentalstore.com also offers them, but last I checked just DCL. Paul mentioned on the podcast that Royal was coming. David’s offers swaps for DCL, Celebrity, Royal and NCL, so a lot more choice there.

I don’t own points to rent, but all my contracts were super loaded and my travel schedule was also spoken for this year.