Contemporary Rumor

[pilferk]

And again...please, not that c-shaped thing. I will likely add on there, but I am so not a fan of that design.

The plans filed all show the C-shaped design. The documents I posted show they've begun commencement on the project pertaining to those filed documents, and they've not filed anything to request a change/review for approval.

I don't think, at this point, there's any way it's NOT the C-shaped design.

 

[spiceycat]

Honestly, I haven't been following the whole thing, but 300+ suites? Are studio sized-rooms considered suites?

no - suites come in many sizes. the Polyn has 2, 2-bedroom suites, and there 1-bedroom suite is that a 1-bedroom.

most suites can sleep at least 6 - some can sleep 12.

the WL has some suites that are just rooms. the Cont has suites in the wings building not the tower. they put some in the tower.

 

[erikthewise]

As always, remember that these are RUMORS regardless of what the CMs say. Many CMs are not very knowledgeable about DVC.

Yes, just about every CM at the CR is saying that DVC is being built...then again, one CM was going on so much about the new DVC there that he said, "But if you are interested, you better buy fast b/c the first 7 floors are already sold out."

That's why I haven't bought yet. I'm waiting until they start selling the top floor.

Now if I can just figure out whether that's the 10th floor or the 15th...

And yet if one wanted to play devil's advocate...



Note that the document simply says "Contemporary Suites" with no mention of DVC. Permits filed for the new AKL facilities use the name "Disney's Vacation Club at Disney's Animal Kingdom Lodge." I believe I have seen a couple of documents for this project that reference DVC, but most do not. And with regard to those that do mention DVC, are they more or less current than others?

Also, DVC has always used the term "Villas" when referring to its units, not "Suites."
...
I have no idea whether the building will be for DVC or not but there sure is enough contradictory information to raise doubts. For the most part, I think people are just choosing to believe what they want to believe.

Not me. I want to believe in CRV, but the evidence you point to is hard to ignore.

On the other hand if it were ALL cash suites, that would be a huge increase in the number of suites available at the deluxe resorts. And these would not be "cheap suites" like at the All Stars. They would be $500/night and up, esp for those with an MK view.

I suspect the name "Contemporary Suites" is chosen either because the actual use is not yet determined, or because it will be a mixture of DVC and non-DVC.

 

[SFLTIGGER]

Your assumption may not be correct. From what I am hearing, the demand is in suites...which is the one area Disney lacks (at least at the deluxe end of the spectrum).

Althought you are correct that Disney was lacking in suites (almost totally) until a year or so ago when All-Star suites opened. In fact, that was one of the main reasons we bought DVC. We are able to get a seperate bedroom from our DS5 and we could not even think of affording a suite in Poly or CR. Then they went and opened All-Star suites! In all seriousness, we love our DVC DISision (intentional misspelling). And have been going more than ever. And we bought APs this year. Hum, I think Disney's plan is working

IMHO, the need for suites is in the low end not in the deluxe resorts. If you go with any kind of regularity, you are far better off buying DVC instead of staying in a Deluxe suite. Again, just my humble opinion.

 

[tjkraz]

IMHO, the need for suites is in the low end not in the deluxe resorts. If you go with any kind of regularity, you are far better off buying DVC instead of staying in a Deluxe suite.

And yet there are 100,000+ people at Walt Disney World every day who are NOT DVC members. Disney fills more than 20,000 non-DVC guest rooms every night with people who desire a wide range of experiences.

I don't think it's fair to conclude that anyone who wishes to stay in a high-end suite is a candidate for DVC. There are a lot of people who have no desire to make the long-term commitment required with DVC, yet wish to have first-class accommodations when they do visit every few years.

 

[spiceycat]

I don't think it's fair to conclude that anyone who wishes to stay in a high-end suite is a candidate for DVC. There are a lot of people who have no desire to make the long-term commitment required with DVC, yet wish to have first-class accommodations when they do visit every few years.

you are so right. My guide told me when BWV was still new - that millionarie were a hard sell. they didn't see the need.

what happened to change a few. was the GV at BWV. they were use to paying cash for it. then one time - they can't. why a lowly (in their opinion) DVC member got it for points first....

she say they brought that day.

 

[psu4glory]

I don't think it's fair to conclude that anyone who wishes to stay in a high-end suite is a candidate for DVC. There are a lot of people who have no desire to make the long-term commitment required with DVC, yet wish to have first-class accommodations when they do visit every few years.

SFLTIGGER did NOT conclude that 'anyone who wishes to stay in a high-end suite is a candidate for DVC'...they said that if you were going to stay in a deluxe resort with a high degree of regularity - which to me implies 1+ times per year, NOT every few years - then you would be better off going with DVC.

i totally agree. this was one of the points that tipped the scales for us when we bought. our visitation frequency had increased to one-to-two times per year...AND we were increasingly staying at higher-end resorts. at that point, it most definitely becomes advantageous to look into DVC as an option.

 

[MarieA]

This permit was listed on another thread regarding the Contemporary. The project is listed at Contemporary DVC Resort on the cover and on pages 1 and 2 (72 page document).

http://my.sfwmd.gov/cmsdk/content/i...pplications/061106-23file2_ApplDocs_78670.pdf

 

[tjkraz]

SFLTIGGER did NOT conclude that 'anyone who wishes to stay in a high-end suite is a candidate for DVC'...they said that if you were going to stay in a deluxe resort with a high degree of regularity - which to me implies 1+ times per year, NOT every few years - then you would be better off going with DVC.

And my point is that the existence of the DVC program has little bearing on whether WDW needs more deluxe suites in its inventory to meet guest demand.

 

[tjkraz]

This permit was listed on another thread regarding the Contemporary. The project is listed at Contemporary DVC Resort on the cover and on pages 1 and 2 (72 page document).

http://my.sfwmd.gov/cmsdk/content/i...pplications/061106-23file2_ApplDocs_78670.pdf

That document is actually quite interesting if you dissect it.

If you look at the preparation dates of individual documents, the name "Contemporary Suites" replaced any mention of DVC sometime between August and the November filing. For example, pages 1-10 of the PDF are the cover letter and application from the Reedy Creek Improvement District (Disney) to the South Florida Water Management District. These documents are dated November 6, 2006 and make no reference to DVC. Throughout these pages the project is referred to as "Disney Contemporary Suites."

Pages 11 to 26 are actually a report prepared by Professional Service Industries, Inc. This portion of the document does reference DVC, but the report was commissioned in May '06 and issued in August '06.

So the question remains as to whether this ceased to be a DVC project sometime between May and November. Barring any material changes to the project itself, it wouldn't be worth the expense to have PSI re-write their report with the "Disney Contemporary Suites" name rather than DVC.

They could have introduced the "Contemporary Suites" name to throw people off, but we're all just guessing until Disney reveals its plans.