Conspiracy theory's

[DisneyBamaFan]

Surely you aren't talking about Transformers: Dark of the Moon, because thats the only moon related project I can find by Michael Bay.

Me thinks it was a joke.

 

[FergieTCat]

Oswald used a Italian Carcano bolt-action rifle. It was not capable of firing that quickly. So even if he was an expert marksman which he wasn't, the rifle was inadequate.

"That was one magic loogie, my friend!"

 

[moburg]

Me thinks it was a joke.

Wasn't sure. James Cameron did Titanic documentaries as well as the movie.

 

[Amii]

But saying that the US government is responsible for 9/11 is a catastrophic accusation. Are you not afraid?
I'm not being sarcastic. I'm honestly curious because I would personally be terrified.

I'm not afraid at all. Look at the way the media portrays "truthers." They make us look crazy or dangerous so people will think we are crackpots. They are sure that they can control the opinion of most people through the media. I'm not saying that everyone should believe the same thing I believe. It is sad that most people I know act like I am nuts but they have never even bothered to look into it. At least look into it and be informed before you judge someone. If you think I'm nuts after you looked into it then that's fine.

I wouldn't be quiet about it even if I felt there was danger. I see some very hard times coming and I need to speak up and try to make others see. I have kids and I will not sit by quietly and risk my kids being slaves down the line.

The Gulf of Tonkin incident is the reason for us entering into the Vietnam War. The Gulf of Tonkin never happened. How many Americans died in the war because the government lied? I know it is not quite the same as 9/11 but it shows how much the government values life.

I didn't answer the question before because I'm not sure if my answer is against the TOS. If it is too political I'll delete it.

 

[disneylovin24]

I'm not afraid at all. Look at the way the media portrays "truthers." They make us look crazy or dangerous so people will think we are crackpots. They are sure that they can control the opinion of most people through the media. I'm not saying that everyone should believe the same thing I believe. It is sad that most people I know act like I am nuts but they have never even bothered to look into it. At least look into it and be in formed before you judge someone. If you think I'm nuts after you looked into it then that's fine.

I wouldn't be quiet about it even if I felt there was danger. I see some very hard times coming and I need to speak up and try to make others see. I have kids and I will not sit by quietly and risk my kids being slaves down the line.

The Gulf of Tonkin incident is the reason for us entering into the Vietnam War. The Gulf of Tonkin never happened. How many Americans died in the war because the government lied? I know it is not quite the same as 9/11 but it shows how much the government values life.

I didn't answer the question before because I'm not sure if my answer is against the TOS. If it is too political I'll delete it.

Why was I quoted here? I didn't directly ask this someone else did.



I have looked into it. Personally, I feel that if you truly believe something is the truth and if you truly believe the government did something as terrible as 9/11, then you should be out there trying to expose it no matter what others think of you.

 

[Amii]

Why was I quoted here? I didn't directly ask this someone else did.



I have looked into it. Personally, I feel that if you truly believe something is the truth and if you truly believe the government did something as terrible as 9/11, then you should be out there trying to expose it no matter what others think of you.

Fixed it.

 

[LuvCuteBoys]

Surely you aren't talking about Transformers: Dark of the Moon, because thats the only moon related project I can find by Michael Bay.

Yeppers... LOL. I just thought it was funny that I saw the movie today and as I was watching it I thought, "hmmm... I wonder if the Dis people know about this!"

This is such a great question! I really applaud you for asking it


it's gonna be curious though to see if anyone actually answers it....

And I mean it sincerely! I'm honestly hoping I get some people answering it.

Me thinks it was a joke.

'Twas

I'm not afraid at all. Look at the way the media portrays "truthers." They make us look crazy or dangerous so people will think we are crackpots. They are sure that they can control the opinion of most people through the media. I'm not saying that everyone should believe the same thing I believe. It is sad that most people I know act like I am nuts but they have never even bothered to look into it. At least look into it and be in formed before you judge someone. If you think I'm nuts after you looked into it then that's fine.

I wouldn't be quiet about it even if I felt there was danger. I see some very hard times coming and I need to speak up and try to make others see. I have kids and I will not sit by quietly and risk my kids being slaves down the line.

The Gulf of Tonkin incident is the reason for us entering into the Vietnam War. The Gulf of Tonkin never happened. How many Americans died in the war because the government lied? I know it is not quite the same as 9/11 but it shows how much the government values life.

I didn't answer the question before because I'm not sure if my answer is against the TOS. If it is too political I'll delete it.

But... there is a difference between the media and the government. I'm not afraid of the media. But I would be afraid of the government if they knew I was looking into something like this (and if it was true). And at the same time, I would hope that I would have the courage to do everything in my power to expose it. People lost their lives and families lost their loved ones. If that happened any other way than the way it was portrayed, I would want people to know.

I don't want to go back through, but are you one the people who believe the conspiraces about 9/11? Or is it other things you're referring to? I'm speaking strictly about the 9/11 stuff because I think that is just HUGE. I don't even have any words to describe it. And it seems to me that people are just casually discussing it the way they would ask their coworker what they're having for dinner.

I don't buy into the theories at all, so I'm just trying to get into the heads of people who do. Because like I said, I would be really scared if I truly believed the government did this and I was doing research that could prove it.

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

For the moon landing and people claiming it was someone in slow motion. Cant they see the surface being kicked up not acting as sand in slow motion. It seems it travels much further than anything would here except for dust that would not return as it does.

 

[lizabu]

I just remembered another conspiracy theory. That HIV/AIDs was created in a lab to wipe out certain types of people.

 

[rabyoga]

I just remembered another conspiracy theory. That HIV/AIDs was created in a lab to wipe out certain types of people.

I sort of believe that one. Although I think it was someone's little bio weapon that got out into the public.

 

[rie'smom]

I sort of believe that one. Although I think it was someone's little bio weapon that got out into the public.

Read Dr Mary's Monkey to see how that could have happened. It isn't exactly about HIV/AIDS but is about how the labs distributed polio vaccines contaminated with monkey viruses. These were used for several years before the gov't stopped the manufacture for US use . Then they did not make anyone destroy the stocked vaccines. There is a possibility that there is still contaminated stock being used today. Oh and they never said anything to the public and they never stopped the labs from either making or distributing the vaccines overseas.
None of this is conspiracy theory. It's documented fact.

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

Oh, Don't forget the one about us knowing about Pearl Harbor.

 

[disneylovin24]

Oh, Don't forget the one about us knowing about Pearl Harbor.

Already went over this one in detail a few pages back.

 

[disneylovin24]

I believe HIV/AIDS could have been man made in a lab.

It would have been created during the Cold War and I don't think it's a stretch to say that it was created by the USSR or USA since bio warfare was being tested. I don't know if it was really meant to destroy certain races, but I think it's possible that it was meant to be sent upon one of the counrties to cause damage. Bio warfare was being studied and even now the USSR supposedly has diseases that they could set out at any time. Some of them might even have been sold to Middle Eastern countries.

 

[Jennasis]

I remember the Mythbusters guys debunking the moon landing conspiracy in an episode.

 

[FergieTCat]

For the moon landing and people claiming it was someone in slow motion. Cant they see the surface being kicked up not acting as sand in slow motion. It seems it travels much further than anything would here except for dust that would not return as it does.

Word has it that gravity speeds things up. Lack of it makes things move slower.

Unless they are in the desert in Arizona at night wearing a space suit.

 

[dodukes]

Another frightening cospiracy is about the Morgellons disease:.
Some said that it was a fail experiment from the French, that put that kind of virus on the Evian water. Other people said that there are Nanotechnologye robots that are disperse by chemtrail spay planes so they can control us......
more about the subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgellons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNb2XhqW-7c&feature=related

ok so i skimmed thru the wiki article but it doesnt say how it got started? was it with evian from the french? I will look more into it, its sounds a little looney but i guess theres lots of people who claim to have it.

I never said that we should believe everything we are told, not by the government or anyone else. I have a cousin that believes all the theories yet she is having a baby. Why would you bring a baby into the world that were the government is going to kills us and all this other awful events are going to take place if you really believe in it? Besides what is the point of me worrying about it if really there is nothing I can do. I have read many of the theories and it they seem to be growing and people coming out with new ones. That is why I said we live in the age of paranoia. I read quite a few theories that involve the military and no one them add up to the reality. We have many friends, and DH that are in the elite military branches they laugh when some of the things come up.

bolding mine: well its not like if something were true, they are going to come right out and be like oh yeah that is true and move on to dessert. I think theres a lot of things our govt. keeps from other parts of govt, including those that are elite military. Its easier to cover it up.

I'm not afraid at all. Look at the way the media portrays "truthers." They make us look crazy or dangerous so people will think we are crackpots. They are sure that they can control the opinion of most people through the media. I'm not saying that everyone should believe the same thing I believe. It is sad that most people I know act like I am nuts but they have never even bothered to look into it. At least look into it and be informed before you judge someone. If you think I'm nuts after you looked into it then that's fine.

I wouldn't be quiet about it even if I felt there was danger. I see some very hard times coming and I need to speak up and try to make others see. I have kids and I will not sit by quietly and risk my kids being slaves down the line.

The Gulf of Tonkin incident is the reason for us entering into the Vietnam War. The Gulf of Tonkin never happened. How many Americans died in the war because the government lied? I know it is not quite the same as 9/11 but it shows how much the government values life.

I didn't answer the question before because I'm not sure if my answer is against the TOS. If it is too political I'll delete it.

Have never heard of Gulf of Tonkin, then again I dont remember much about history in school if it was covered. Will read more about it. And yes I agree most people think that people who think otherwise are automatically loonies.

 

[brerrabbit]

In the process of moving furniture for wood floor installation I had to clean out my study. I had a lot of files from years and years ago including some things I took when we cleaned out my parents house. I cannot for the life of me remember where it came from but from its look and date it was obviously from my high school days which would have been the early seventies. It is titled the Gemstone Key and is a timeline discussion of world and US events from pre WWII up through the early 70's.

The jest of the paper is that Aristotal Onasis in conjunction with The Kennedy Patriarch (can't remember his name) grew in power and wealth via the opium trade followed by bringing booze to America during prohibition and traded with all parties during WWII. It notes that Onasis did not loose a single merchant ship during WWII. They say it was because he was working for both sides. It then follows through Onasis' connection to organized crime and who owned the Washington Post and gaming in Cuba, his hand in the Bay of Pigs incident and claims that the Kennedy assasination was payback from organized crime for John and Robert Kennedy's war on them. It names the gunman on the grassy knoll ad even gives thier escape routes. It talks about Onasis' control over Johnson and the fact that on the Air Force One flight out of Dallas that day where Johnson was sworn into the presidency that he received a call that said he would do certain things and that if he did not agree that "planes crash all the time, even Air Force One"

It is an interesting read and must be taken with a grain of salt because obviously one would have a difficult time proving most if not all of the claims made, but it sure can set your mind realing.

They even clain that Jackie Kennedy marrying Onasis was in keeping with a tradition of mafia leaders taking care of or marrying the widows of their rivals.

 

[m&m's mom]

The jest of the paper is that Aristotal Onasis in conjunction with The Kennedy Patriarch (can't remember his name) grew in power and wealth via the opium trade followed by bringing booze to America during prohibition and traded with all parties during WWII. It notes that Onasis did not loose a single merchant ship during WWII. They say it was because he was working for both sides. It then follows through Onasis' connection to organized crime and who owned the Washington Post and gaming in Cuba, his hand in the Bay of Pigs incident and claims that the Kennedy assasination was payback from organized crime for John and Robert Kennedy's war on them. It anmes the gunman on the grassy knoll ad even gives theri escape routes. It talks about Onasis' control over Johnson and the fact that on the Air Force One flight out of Dallas that day where Johnson was sworn into the presidency that he received a call that said he would do certain things and that if he did not agree that "planes crash all the time, even Air Force One"

It is an interesting read and must be taken with a grain of salt because obviously one would have a difficult time proving most if not all of the claims made, but it sure can set your mind realing.

They even clain that Jackie Kennedy marrying Onasis was in keeping with a tradition of mafia leaders taking care of or marrying the widows of their rivals.

I will post about Roswell in a sec but I bought "Nemesis: The True Story of Aristotle Onassis, Jackie O, and the Love Triangle That Brought Down the Kennedys". I have no idea if it is true but boy, it was an interesting book.

ETA- I bought this book a few hours after spending half a day at the "Schoolbook Depository" and the site of Kennedy's Assination. The "grassy knoll" is tiny, tiny. I have lived in Dallas for 20 + years and never really paid attention to the actual site even though it was 2 miles from my office.
I read all the conspiracy stuff in the actual museum and then spent time outside trying to reconcile what I had just seen with the teeny, tiny area in front of me (which has not changed since the assination).
I gotta be honest- my 11 year old could have hit someone from that distance- and she has never even seen a gun. Also, I kept hearing where the "secret shooter" was supposed to be and it was a patch of grass that is maybe 15 feet long and maybe 4 feet deep. I just do not see any way possible someone could have shot from there and not been seen by the multitude of people crowding that little patch.
Now if there are all kinds of other theories about who put him up to it and I have no clue about that.

 

[saradela]

ok so i skimmed thru the wiki article but it doesnt say how it got started? was it with evian from the french? I will look more into it, its sounds a little looney but i guess theres lots of people who claim to have it.


here is some more information:

Thousands of US Families Suffering, Tens of Thousands Worldwide

On December 5th, 2006, Dr. Edward L. Spencer MD spoke to the Berkeley California Mayor and City Council Members on behalf of the Community Environmental Advisory Commission (CEAC).


HERE IS A TRANSCRIPT OF DR. SPENCER'S COMMENTS:

Honorable Mayor and Berkeley City Council Members:

My name is Edward Spencer MD. I have practiced Neurology in Northern California for more than thirty years. I am speaking tonight on the issue of health and nanotechnology.

A very strange disorder named Morgellons disease is among us, and the world wide number of cases is approaching 20 thousand with major clusters in the Bay Area and Southern California.

There now exists strong data indicating that this disorder is associated with nanotechnology, specifically nano machines in the form of nanofibers. The National Science Foundation (NSF) defines nanofibers as having at least one dimension of 100 nanometer (nm) or less.

So-called Morgellons disorder presents as brain fog, fatigue and other neurological symptoms. It is associated with the presence of tiny fibers protruding from the skin, intense itching, the possible appearance of ulcerative lesions ringed by a raised crater rim, and other strange lesions. The fibers have been widely observed to move.


There is no satisfactory treatment, physicians and dermatologists areunfamiliar with this chronic disabling disorder and tend to ignore it. Patients become labeled as having Delusions of Parasitosis, and this psychiatric diagnosis is stuck to the patients by dermatologists who have not examined the skin under magnification, and who have not completed the extensive evaluation necessary to exclude all parasitic skin disorders before making a psychiatric diagnosis.

Pictures of the fibers are provided in the packet and I will direct your attention to the blue fiber with the gold tip. This was removed from a patient. This fiber did not burn until it has been heated to 1700 degrees F. Compare that with hair, which is easily burned producing a characteristic odor and has a cellular structure. The fibers are shed regularly and some grow to long lengths indicating fiber production in the human body. Dr. Janovy has stated of this blue fiber, 'it has no eukaryotic cells, it has no cell membrane, it is not a parasite, it is not biological, it is a machine.' Web article: Gold Nano Anchors Put Nanowires in Their Place is appended. Also included are microphotographs by Dr. Hildegarde Staninger of a blue Morgellons fiber removed from a patient. Note the similarity of structure.

There is evidence that Morgellons disorder(s) is carried by insect vectors, as some type of bug bite frequently precedes the onset of the disorder(s). The agent(s) producing Morgellons are in the sewer systems.

Also included are photomicrographs of very strange skin lesions. Morgellons appears almost biblical in its characteristics…. like something described in Exodus. Dr Randy Wymore of the University of Oklahoma sent fibers to the FBI. No matching fibers were found in the FBI forensic database. A contact in Naval Intelligence has recommended looking into Smart Dust. (Specks in field arrays).

The National Register of Environmental Professionals has assigned a task force to look into environmental causes behind Morgellons Disorder. I ask the Berkeley City Council to request that the University of California devote its considerable intellectual and technical resources to studying these nanofibers and this disease.

Under the wise guidance of Wall Street and insurance companies, American Medicine has fallen into an amazing state of degeneracy. Medical care is unavailable for many, access is limited for most, and research money is frequently unavailable except from major drug companies. Using technical terms, American Medicine is in the toilet. The response of the CDC has been lethargic to the point of being alarming.

A simple electronic microscope such as you see here allows inspection of the skin at 50x to 400x and allows the clinician to document the existence of fibers. Eyeballs at two feet won't do it, and simple equipment like this should be available in the UC Clinics. And, of course, we need methods of treatment. Get Conscious, Help Save Our earth, and Yourself.
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About the Evian Water, I dont remember were I read that, but as soon I find it ,I will post it.