Conservative thread: We're still smiling!

[Soarin08]

I've been meaning to tell you that I love the Disney quote in your signature! He really does capture the feeling that many of us have when we walk through that tunnel and see Main Street!

I haven't put anything in my signature because the things I would want to put there would probably be considered "offensive" to some.

I thought about that quote when I walked into the MK and it really is amazing how true those words really are. Maybe that's just me, I don't know...

 

[Mikelly1221]

Wow, so many of you have gotten points. I haven't gotten any. I feel left out...

 

[Decorated_Dust]

I'll be praying for you that your "intellectual" side backs off. There was once I wondered if God existed but I've had too many spiritual experiences (and no, I don't take drugs or drink, thankyouverymuch) to deny His existence.

Same with me. I went through a time about five years ago when I really doubted God's existance.... but He showed me He was there in a big way and ever since then I have never even questioned the existance of God.

Thanks guys. God has showed Himself a lot in my life, but when I'm in the throws of anxiety, it's hard to remember those times. I just have to stop relying on apologetics to get me through my faith, and start relying on a tried and true relationship with God. Logic will fail, but God always stays true.

My aunt actually has a journal full of miracles she has experienced (and not the kind that can be dismissed as "all in your head"), and she has been a huge help to me through all this.

Wow, so many of you have gotten points. I haven't gotten any. I feel left out...

I have none, either.

 

[Soarin08]

Wow, so many of you have gotten points. I haven't gotten any. I feel left out...

I'm glad I haven't gotten any more since the two sets I got a couple months ago.

 

[Tink & Goofy]

Wow, so many of you have gotten points. I haven't gotten any. I feel left out...

I got mine for calling someone out on their racism. So just go argue with a hypocrite and you'll get points.

Thanks guys. God has showed Himself a lot in my life, but when I'm in the throws of anxiety, it's hard to remember those times. I just have to stop relying on apologetics to get me through my faith, and start relying on a tried and true relationship with God. Logic will fail, but God always stays true.

My aunt actually has a journal full of miracles she has experienced (and not the kind that can be dismissed as "all in your head"), and she has been a huge help to me through all this.

I have none, either.

I have a couple of miracles but none that I'll share out here. I refuse for them to become fodder for others.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Wow, so many of you have gotten points. I haven't gotten any. I feel left out...

Oh my, a points virgin.

 

[Soarin08]

Oh my, a points virgin.

 

[Tink & Goofy]

Oh my, a points virgin.

Hey, hey, SM, no making fun of the points virgins.
Points abstinence is a wonderful thing. In fact, I think points-abstinence should be taught on the DIS.

 

[Soarin08]

Hey, hey, SM, no making fun of the points virgins.
Points abstinence is a wonderful thing. In fact, I think points-abstinence should be taught on the DIS.

I lost my points virginity pretty quickly..... but that's what you get for trying to reason with a hypocrite.

 

[Grog]

You got points for that?? Nothing wrong with that pic to me.... if it was GWB's face instead of Obama's it would've been ok, I'd be willing to bet.

Had it been George Bush, I also doubt any of us would have been childish enough to report it, even if we didn't like it. Personally I can think of many politicians on both sides of the aisle that could use a plunger to the face now and then.

 

[Mr Man]

That sounds very interesting. I've been avoiding athiest websites ever since my intellectual side has launched a full scale attack on my spiritual side (my intellectual side probably has the devil backing it up), but I would like to check that out.

I'm glad we're on the same side about being decent. I'm not a huge attention grabber, so I think being mean is just pointless. Besides, I think it annoys the other side more when I'm respectful.

This is coming from a committed Christian/Preachers kid). I know about doubt.

Question everything! Some of the greatest epiphanys in human history have come from people who never stopped questioning why things are the way they are.......or better......what does this thing do, and why and what if I just........

My personal experience leads me to believe that there is likely no clear-cut answer at the end of this journey.....but the end of the journey was never the goal.......it was the endless journey of discovery that was the goal for me......

or at least up to now.

City of God - by Augustine of Hippo changed my life in ways that have taken me years to digest. As Bernarde of Chartres and Sir Isaac Newton have both relayed, "We are like dwarves standing on the shoulders of Giants" in the Western World and much of our future lies in our past. I hope you find your Giant and envy your upcoming journey.



It is always good to be respectful......but sometimes, it is necessary to speak the truth without regard to social niceties......

and sometimes, it is just plain fun to expose flawed logic......

 

[Tink & Goofy]

I lost my points virginity pretty quickly..... but that's what you get for trying to reason with a hypocrite.

My points were forced on me...I wasn't trying to get them.
I don't try to reason with hypocrites anymore. They just pull out the "you're suposed to be a Christian? Christians aren't supposed to argue and get mad so you're really not a Christian" thing. I don't know where they get that tidbit of 'logic' from but whatever.

 

[Soarin08]

My points were forced on me...I wasn't trying to get them.
I don't try to reason with hypocrites anymore. They just pull out the "you're suposed to be a Christian? Christians aren't supposed to argue and get mad so you're really not a Christian" thing. I don't know where they get that tidbit of 'logic' from but whatever.

Oh I finally reached a point a few weeks ago where I avoid all politically-related threads. Period. Except for this one.

 

[JB111107]

Thanks guys. God has showed Himself a lot in my life, but when I'm in the throws of anxiety, it's hard to remember those times. I just have to stop relying on apologetics to get me through my faith, and start relying on a tried and true relationship with God. Logic will fail, but God always stays true.

My aunt actually has a journal full of miracles she has experienced (and not the kind that can be dismissed as "all in your head"), and she has been a huge help to me through all this.



I have none, either.

I know exactly what you mean. When my life literally fell apart a few years ago, and I was quickly spiraling out of control, going through my divorce, etc, I turned my back on everything I had always been raised to believe. It was still there in the back of my mind, but I always had this lingering doubt that I just could not get away from. It was compounded by constantly thinking "ok this is the worst it could get...nothing else could possibly hit me because I'm at my lowest"...and yet one thing after another continued to barrage me. It wasn't until I really stopped, sat down, and examined things in my life that I really saw "the light" so to speak.

Oddly enough, it was right after I met my DH, and we were living over 1000 miles apart, so we spent our time talking on the phone. DH asked me some really tough questions back then, and for the first time I gave honest answers instead of canned ones I knew he'd want to hear. (or anyone else for that matter). It wasn't until then that I finally was able to shake off alot of my doubts. I credit my DH for helping me find my way in that.

On another note, because I know we are all readers....a great book you might take a look at is called "Battling Unbelief" by John Piper. You will see that alot of your doubts and questions are really not unusual.

Believers constantly question their faith. It is the best way to reconfirm and reinforce everything they believe.

 

[Mikelly1221]

Oh my, a points virgin.

Hey, hey, SM, no making fun of the points virgins.
Points abstinence is a wonderful thing. In fact, I think points-abstinence should be taught on the DIS.

Oh, but why, it's just going to make P.V.'s (points virgins) want to go out and get points. I mean, P.V.'s are going to do it anyway. Really, what we need is to have safe-points-accrual (S.P.E.) taught on the DIS. That way, they'll know what to do so they don't get banned!

 

[Mikelly1221]

This is coming from a committed Christian/Preachers kid). I know about doubt.

Question everything! Some of the greatest epiphanys in human history have come from people who never stopped questioning why things are the way they are.......or better......what does this thing do, and why and what if I just........

My personal experience leads me to believe that there is likely no clear-cut answer at the end of this journey.....but the end of the journey was never the goal.......it was the endless journey of discovery that was the goal for me......

or at least up to now.

City of God - by Augustine of Hippo changed my life in ways that have taken me years to digest. As Bernarde of Chartres and Sir Isaac Newton have both relayed, "We are like dwarves standing on the shoulders of Giants" in the Western World and much of our future lies in our past. I hope you find your Giant and envy your upcoming journey.



It is always good to be respectful......but sometimes, it is necessary to speak the truth without regard to social niceties......

and sometimes, it is just plain fun to expose flawed logic......

BRAVO, Mr. Man!!! Excellent!!!

Edited to add: Our pastor has said over and over again from the pulpit, "The truth has nothing to fear." He encourages anyone, and especially teens/kids to come talk to him any time they have any questions, doubts, and nothing is off limits.

 

[Decorated_Dust]

Hey, hey, SM, no making fun of the points virgins.
Points abstinence is a wonderful thing. In fact, I think points-abstinence should be taught on the DIS.

Absolutely not! Having safe points in the way to go (aka, the points one by expressing liberal points of view).

This is coming from a committed Christian/Preachers kid). I know about doubt.

Question everything! Some of the greatest epiphanys in human history have come from people who never stopped questioning why things are the way they are.......or better......what does this thing do, and why and what if I just........

My personal experience leads me to believe that there is likely no clear-cut answer at the end of this journey.....but the end of the journey was never the goal.......it was the endless journey of discovery that was the goal for me......

or at least up to now.

City of God - by Augustine of Hippo changed my life in ways that have taken me years to digest. As Bernarde of Chartres and Sir Isaac Newton have both relayed, "We are like dwarves standing on the shoulders of Giants" in the Western World and much of our future lies in our past. I hope you find your Giant and envy your upcoming journey.

Thanks for your perspective! I agree with you and have been questioning a lot of things with regard to my faith in recent years. Learning about psychology and the like has really made me see various people and doctrines differently. Also, I'm dying to read City of God, but I'm afraid I'll be too ADD for it. I'm a huge C.S. Lewis fan, though.

My points were forced on me...I wasn't trying to get them.
I don't try to reason with hypocrites anymore. They just pull out the "you're suposed to be a Christian? Christians aren't supposed to argue and get mad so you're really not a Christian" thing. I don't know where they get that tidbit of 'logic' from but whatever.

Jesus turning over tables? Paul at Mars Hill? Jesus calling the Pharisees vipers? Are they forgetting these things? If they don't know what they are, then they have no grounds for using Christianity against us.

You got points for that?? Nothing wrong with that pic to me.... if it was GWB's face instead of Obama's it would've been ok, I'd be willing to bet.

To be fair, I haven't seen any anti-Bush pics either. Then again, there are a lot of people on these boards.

 

[Decorated_Dust]

I know exactly what you mean. When my life literally fell apart a few years ago, and I was quickly spiraling out of control, going through my divorce, etc, I turned my back on everything I had always been raised to believe. It was still there in the back of my mind, but I always had this lingering doubt that I just could not get away from. It was compounded by constantly thinking "ok this is the worst it could get...nothing else could possibly hit me because I'm at my lowest"...and yet one thing after another continued to barrage me. It wasn't until I really stopped, sat down, and examined things in my life that I really saw "the light" so to speak.

Oddly enough, it was right after I met my DH, and we were living over 1000 miles apart, so we spent our time talking on the phone. DH asked me some really tough questions back then, and for the first time I gave honest answers instead of canned ones I knew he'd want to hear. (or anyone else for that matter). It wasn't until then that I finally was able to shake off alot of my doubts. I credit my DH for helping me find my way in that.

On another note, because I know we are all readers....a great book you might take a look at is called "Battling Unbelief" by John Piper. You will see that alot of your doubts and questions are really not unusual.

Believers constantly question their faith. It is the best way to reconfirm and reinforce everything they believe.

Thanks for your story. I love hearing about how God works through some of the worst circumstances. I will definitely check out that book. Right now I'm reading Searching for God Knows What by Donald Miller, and I'm at the part where he discusses his unbelief. It was one in the morning, and I was exhausted, but I could not put it down.

All of the encouragement I've been getting over the past few months (and the past hour) is leaving me somewhat excited over what God is going to do with this time in my life. I just have to start exercising some faith.

 

[wonderlanne]

Had it been George Bush, I also doubt any of us would have been childish enough to report it, even if we didn't like it. Personally I can think of many politicians on both sides of the aisle that could use a plunger to the face now and then.

i do suspect somebody reported the image, and it was because they were not able to continue discussing something in a manner resembling reasonable. it was a, "OH YEAH??? well...bbbb.....uuu....eee....YOUR MOTHER WEARS ARMY BOOTS!!!!" sorta thing.

 

[Tink & Goofy]

Oh, but why, it's just going to make P.V.'s (points virgins) want to go out and get points. I mean, P.V.'s are going to do it anyway. Really, what we need is to have safe-points-accrual (S.P.E.) taught on the DIS. That way, they'll know what to do so they don't get banned!

So should we just hand out safe points then because the PV's won't be satisfied? Points aren't a right, you know. Points lead to all sorts of things...little points, for example. And when you have so many points with so many people it takes away from it.

Jesus turning over tables? Paul at Mars Hill? Jesus calling the Pharisees vipers? Are they forgetting these things? If they don't know what they are, then they have no grounds for using Christianity against us.

They don't know about those because they don't read the Bible. LOL
They use the saying as ammunition, thinking that if they call us non-Christians we'll back off and shut up and they win. They've never met me IRL.