Conservative Thread #2 - No Political Debate Please

[breezy1077]

He did say that -- I totally support the fact that he does not want to give our enemies billions of dollars for their oil. I was getting the vibe that he was not going to drill in ANWR, Grand Canyon, Everglades, etc - but if ind' states elected to permit drilling off their coasts - he would not object to that.

I thought he actually was composed. He has a temper (which he was born with - and I'm the same way) and it comes out when he is passionate about a topic. I thought he presented himself well. The problem is - we've got maturity and experience --- they've got the Beatles/Tom Jones.

I was thinking more like Jim Jones - I've never seen so many people drinking the koolaid

 

[SwedishMeatball]

I totally agreed with BOR's classification of Obama's campaign -- we'll gonna give you everything blah blah blah blah blah

I agree with BOR's assessment that those who don't really pay attention to the details, will embrace Obama's HC because it sounds less complicated. Big Daddy Government will sweep us all into the fold and protect and care for us. McCain will have to work hard to educate the public on the benefits of his plan, compared with the cost to the tax payers, the incredible inefficiencies, and no doubt the corruption bound to breed, of Obama's inept ideas.

 

[wardfamily1]

I go off the boards for a few hours to get some yard work done and all hell breaks loose on the thread.

Geez, I miss all the fun.

Ok, pout over.

ANyone watching H&C right now? Denny Hastert lost a LOT of weight. WOW!

 

[Corryn]

A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered altitude and spotted a man in a boat below. She shouted to him, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."

The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, "You're in a hot air balloon approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level. You are 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude."

She rolled her eyes and said, "You must be a Republican."

"I am," replied the man. "How did you know?"

"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to make of your information, and I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help to me."

The man smiled and responded, "You must be a Democrat."

"I am," replied the balloonist. "But how did you know?"

"Well," said the man, "You don't know where you are or where you're going. You've risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You've made a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and now you expect ME to solve your problem. You're in EXACTLY the same position you were in before we met, but somehow, now, it's MY fault

I know it's ten pages later, but I just saw this....

David Duke, reporting for duty...

All hail the Grand Wizard
Man, Charade! I don't think I EVER saw a post like that on the DIS!!!!! I know you know what I'm talkin' 'bout !

Some day...

I don't know, we're all talking about going back to 55, but you gotta get that baby up past 70 in order for it to work!

I don't agree with socialist principles. Socialism wants life to be fair & equal. Well, life's not fair. Why should someone who works their butt off be taxed so that the bum is equal to them? They shouldn't. No incentive to succeed.

How dare we ask people to help themselves before they ask someone else for help.
Kristine

IMO, there's no greater motivator than need.

You all got that right

 

[transparant]

Suspected al Qaeda leader in Iraq arrested

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi security forces have detained a man suspected of being the leader of al Qaeda in Iraq after a captured associate led them to him sleeping in a house in the northern city of Mosul, Iraqi officials said on Friday.

The U.S. military in Baghdad said it was checking the reports that Abu Ayyab al-Masri, an Egyptian also known as Abu Hamza al-Muhajir, had been detained.

If confirmed, the arrest would be another blow for Sunni Islamist al Qaeda in Iraq, which has reeled under a wave of U.S. military operations in the past year and been forced to regroup in northern Iraq.

An Interior Ministry spokesman said an associate of Masri detained in an earlier operation took security forces late on Wednesday to where the al Qaeda leader was hiding.

After being detained, Masri confessed to being the al Qaeda in Iraq leader, he said, adding that his identity still had to be confirmed. Other Iraqi security officials said the suspect was in American custody for identification.

Al Qaeda in Iraq was headed by the Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi until he was killed in a U.S. air strike in June 2006. His successor, Masri, was Zarqawi's close associate, and has a U.S. bounty of $5 million (2.6 million pounds) on his head.

Duraid Kashmula, the governor of Nineveh province, of which Mosul is the capital, also said the detained man had confessed to being Masri.

"When police entered the house, they found him asleep," Kashmula said, adding the suspect was alone. Continued...

http://uk.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUKL0818912920080508?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0

 

[wardfamily1]

Some day...

I say we open a flux capicator plant right here in Michigan.

I know it's ten pages later, but I just saw this....

Thanks for quoting the joke, I missed it too the first time around.

 

[Corryn]

I say we open a flux capicator plant right here in Michigan.

As long as it's not in untouchable PA Flux Capacitators are NASTY Stuff

 

[transparant]

http://www.woi-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8293165

Obama accuses McCain of 'losing his bearings' with comment




Associated Press - May 8, 2008 9:03 PM ET

WASHINGTON (AP) - Barack Obama says that John McCain tried to "smear" him and was "losing his bearings" for suggesting that Hamas preferred Obama for president.

The Democratic presidential candidate told CNN that it's "offensive" and "disappointing" especially since McCain has said he's "not going to run that kind of politics."

McCain has raised questions about a Hamas adviser saying in an interview: "We like Obama and hope that he will win the election." The United States has labeled the Palestinian organization a terrorist group.

McCain said yesterday on "The Daily Show with John Stewart" that it shows how some enemies view America. He said "I guarantee you, they're not going to endorse me."

And a McCain adviser says Obama was referring to McCain's age with his "losing his bearings"

Truth hurts Barry???

 

[breezy1077]

transparant - that's a great story! So it's not confirmed that it's him, but US officials are pretty certain, right?

 

[breezy1077]

http://www.woi-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8293165




Truth hurts Barry???

DH just called me from the office and told me about this story. I hope McCain doesn't let it go, and it's laughable the BO used such terminology.

 

[connorlevismom]

http://www.woi-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8293165




Truth hurts Barry???

Oh great, more boo-hoo people are picking on me from BO. For godsake! Buck up little camper!!! How can anyone seriously think that he is going to be able to lead this country?

He is in for a looooooong coulpe of months. That is if he gets the nomination.

Kristine

 

[Charade]

http://www.woi-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8293165




Truth hurts Barry???

What's with the Democrats and Hamas? First JC and now this?

 

[transparant]

Oh great, more boo-hoo people are picking on me from BO. For godsake! Buck up little camper!!! How can anyone seriously think that he is going to be able to lead this country?

He is in for a looooooong coulpe of months. That is if he gets the nomination.

Kristine

As my DS says - "You're such a wussy-pants!"

 

[transparant]

What's with the Democrats and Hamas? First JC and now this?

I'd like to know that myself.

 

[transparant]

transparant - that's a great story! So it's not confirmed that it's him, but US officials are pretty certain, right?

Thats what it sounds like.

 

[breezy1077]

Thats what it sounds like.

Now I hope they smile nice and say pretty please so they can extract as much info from him as they can.

 

[transparant]

McCain’s Former Hanoi Cell Mate Describes Character in Deplorable Conditions
by FOXNews.com
Thursday, May 8, 2008



Col. George "Bud" Day speaks about his time in captivity with John McCain.


John McCain rarely speaks about his experiences as a POW in Vietnam, but one of his cell mates at the Hanoi Hilton on Thursday described some of the conditions and character traits that earned McCain the commendations he received for his war service.

Col. George “Bud” Day, 83, is the most decorated service man since Gen. Douglas MacArthur, with more than 70 medals. A living legend, Day was blown out of the sky two months to the day before the North Vietnamese shot down a propaganda prize, whose father and grandfather were renowned American admirals.

“They told me we were gonna get a roommate and it was gonna be the prince. The Vietnamese called him the prince so I asked my nurse what was his name? They said John McCain,” Day told FOX News.

Both he and McCain were taken captive in 1967, and held until their release in 1973.

Day said the first time he saw McCain, he believed the future senator was close to death and that the only reason for the chance encounter was part of a Vietnamese ploy to break the morale of U.S. servicemen already in captivity.

“I took one look at him, and my brain instantly said, ‘They dropped this guy off on me to claim that we let him die,’” Day said. “He was just emaciated. Very, very skinny, in this full body cast. Just filthy.”

The U.S. soldiers were held sometimes five to a cell, barely big enough for two.

“He had this gimpy knee where he’d busted his knee, this arm had been fractured in a couple places, he’d been bayoneted in the leg, this arm was out at the shoulder and, in fact, during that time it was out at the shoulder so long it wore a hole in this bone,” Day said.

During captivity, they were tortured mercilessly, Day said, describing one tactic that McCain has also recalled.

“They roped me under the arms, tied my hands behind my back, ran another rope to that, got me up on a chair, threw that rope up over a rafter and jerked the chair out from under me and your own weight just tears your body apart,” he said.

Day’s broken arm was re-broken during torture so he would never fly again. McCain played physical therapist.

“John said, ‘Well we’ll gather up some bamboo, and he was in a bandage on his leg at that time. So I got some strips of bamboo, smuggled them into the room, John put his foot in my arm pit and pulled on my wrist ’till we could get the bone forced back down … it wasn’t exactly perfect but it worked out he got it back to where it was functional,” Day said.

But nerve damage was extensive — his crushed hands were useless. Meanwhile, McCain was treated no better than the trash they were fed in the form of a soup.

“I mean you could smell him for 25 feet. Bunch of food and nasty stuff in his hair, and down his neck and inside his cast. The cast was not lined so every time he would move inside this cast, it was just eating a hole in his arm or his elbow or someplace, and he was just in — he was in pain,” Day recalled.

Yet McCain, now 71, made efforts to help Day recover from his own injuries, Day said.

Day said he had limited use of his arms, which was a result of a combination of torture and the initial plane crash that put him in the hands of his captors — an ordeal that earned Day the Congressional Medal of Honor.

“And when I finally did regain use of that, it was after months and months of dragging this hand and finger on the wall of the prison cell,” Day said, walking his fingers up the air like he did many years ago.

“John would help me. … John would pull my fingers out straight. They would just instantly recurl. And finally, one morning, I had just the slightest bit of movement in this hand — finger — and we both cried,” Day said.

McCain, whose military record was released to the Associated Press on Wednesday, received 17 commendations over his career from 1951-81. They included the Silver Star for his conduct in captivity. He also received the Legion of Merit, the Distinguished Flying Cross and a Bronze Star.

Day said by any humane standard, McCain would have been a good candidate for early release from the camp, but that wasn’t in his playbook.

“It also wasn’t in his playbook to die. In fact he quickly became a leader.”

Day said he asked McCain if he would be one of his preachers.

“He said sure. He had a great handle on the Episcopalian liturgy, he could just repeat it verbatim,” he said.

But repeating what he went through during his incarceration is something McCain almost never does as a presidential candidate. Day said he thinks he should.

“I’ve never seen any shortcomings or any shortfall out of him talking about that, but he just doesn’t trade on that. I think he feels that it’s wrong to trade on being a hero, but he is,” Day said.

This is nothing compared to Michelle Obama's rough upbringing! If this doesn't speak volumes about this mans character and the fact that he is just light years ahead of whiney BO!

 

[transparant]

Now I hope they smile nice and say pretty please so they can extract as much info from him as they can.

I think they are going to discuss things over tea and crumpettes.

 

[breezy1077]

I think they are going to discuss things over tea and crumpettes.

Thanks for sharing the other story - BO and McCain aren't even in the same league IMO.

 

[transparant]

Thanks for sharing the other story - BO and McCain aren't even in the same league IMO.

Not even close!