Y-ASK said:
That's just dumb! (Not you Becca
). He's been served with a letter of intent and he's not going to answer it accordingly, which would probably clear up the matter quickly? Great! So now I've got to pay more legal bills via MF's because some owner wants to play with DVC legal. Sounds like one of two things are going on here and it's my conclusion that the points are in his name and not the businesses; 1st he might have rented a few or more points and doesn't want to admit it or 2nd he's an arrogant a$$ with lots of money to blow on trival BS. Tell him thanks for taking the rest of us along for the ride on his trip with DVC legal.
Becca, don't get me wrong, we're still talking about your friend but I kind of get the feeling you're not entirely happy with DVC's decision to go after commerical renters. If that is the case why? I respect your right to voice your opinion but may disagree with it.
Y-ASK
I think one of your assumptions is very correct....he is VERY rich, and runs in very powerful circles. He just doesn't like being "messed with". I honestly don't think he has EVER rented. He says he hasn't, and really...he doesn't need the money. DVC is "chump change" to him (I'd like to live in that world for just a second).
He is upset because, 1) DVC sent him a not-so-friendly letter saying he had been identified as doing something he is not. I KNOW you guys say, "He's just silly." But, what if you had received a letter from DVC, not "asking", but just sending you a bill for trashing a room during your last visit, and you didn't. Honestly, many of you would be really mad!!! I know you say you wouldn't, but come on....people here complain that it took until 4:00 to get into a room, that ME got your bags to you late....don't even get me started on how many people raise a &*%@# when room views aren't what they expected. He just feels it is rude. 2) He feels he purchased DVC points under different guidelines. Had a guide said to him, "Listen, you really don't want to own more points than what you would use to make 20 reservations in a year, because after that...each reservation is subject to being cancelled." Then, he would've bought fewer points and purchased other timeshares in Orlando if he chose. He feels like there was a "rules change" after he purchased that has negatively affected his ownership. He also feels that the new rules disproportionately affect people who own many points. He's not "furious"...he doesn't care that much....he's just "annoyed". And, for some reason (I am not sure why...I am not him, or his lawyers), he has decided to wait until a ressie ever gets cancelled before he does anything. I get the impression that he thinks nothing is ever going to get cancelled. I don't know whether he is right or wrong....but yes, he has money to burn, and that is the way he is choosing to burn it. I told him I thought he should just sell some of his points to get under the "20 reservation" guideline to make it easier on himself, but he didn't take too kindly to that.
As far as what I feel....I am really torn. I am THRILLED that the commercial renters such as some of those who lie about who they are and what they are doing are getting out of the system. Getting into BCV is much easier, and I am really happy about that! However, I do think that DVC is taking some steps that make me a bit nervous about MY membership in the future. I mean, owning a lot of points, and having reservations in the names of many people should not be the "convicting evidence" of being a renter. DVC should've researched those who post on ebay, the dis, redweek and tug. If they had used that information, my friend would not have been caught in that net. I will tell you....I have rented points out...only once, but I HAVE rented. That makes ME more of a renter than my friend, but I have not received a letter.
I am also nervous about the "1 transfer" rule. I did two transfers once in a one year period because of poor planning on my part (well, actually...I got the opportunity to go again, and I jumped on it). I don't plan on ever needing to do that again, but you never know. However, it is a moot point, now. I am more concerned that the "renters guidelines" (or, whatever you want to call them), and the "1 transfer" rules are just the beginning of more and more restrictions of our memberships. I think as DVC adds more members, and more resorts we are going to see the way we use those points becoming more and more restrictive...and, that makes me VERY nervous. I did not point out the plight of my friend to make everyone feel sorry for him...he can totally take care of himself. I pointed it out because it seems to me that DVC took some steps based on information that was not researched properly. That makes me nervous as well. DVC has a responsibility to administer our membership responsibly. That means nailing people like the Weschlers, and not nailing people like my friend....DVC needs to both see, and understand the difference. And, I agree with Dean's statements that "Even though this rule doesn't affect you, the next one could."
I just think, like many things associated with DVC...as DVC grows, they should be getting BETTER, not WORSE. When I went to work at Southwest Airlines, we attended a speech by one of the founding leaders. She told how when the airline first started, that they had one person on duty who would answer the telephone and take reservations. That person had no pencil, no paper, no computer....the reservations were faked. They just sat on the phone while people gave their information and said, "Thank you". That lasted for a couple of years, until the airline got big and began to sell out flights. Then, they actually had to take reservations...for real. IMO, every time DVC adds a new resort, they ought to add improvements to the system. Home resort points should be able to be tracked, NS rooms should be a guarantee, not a request...and, DVC should not be sending letters to members giving out new guidelines for thier use inappropriately. Honestly, I think unless DVC was absolutely certain, and included individualized "proof" in the letters, we all should've received the form letter.
Don't get me wrong...I think DVC does a pretty good job in what they do, and yes, no one is perfect. I would just prefer to see improvements in the system rather than restrictions on our use. And please, PLEASE let's not have this start a debate (Y-ASK, I almost pm'd this to you instead of posting it, but it was too long)...this really has been debated to death, and no one is going to change anyone else's views on the matter. These boards have been pretty slow lately, and if this becomes the new "hot" thread based on MY opinions I have posted...I will unsubscribe pretty quickly and go back to the community board for awhile. I am NOT trying to bring back the debate regarding transfers, rule changes or anything else...I am simply trying to explain my view to Y-ASK, since he/she (sorry, I don't know...) asked.
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