College entrance cheating scandal

[Prince_Hawkins]

In my opinion that is far too lenient. I’d be willing to bet many parents in this country would voluntarily spend a week in solitary confinement if it gauranteed their kid’s acceptance to an elite school.

You could be right. Two months, perhaps?

 

[Imzadi]

You could be right. Two months, perhaps?

Five months. Even Martha Stewart got 5 months in a cushy prison.

All 13 sets of parents also need to do some community service like having to educate underprivileged children how to read & write. Something that would really contribute back to the community they stole from. Not something like picking up road kill from the streets. I'm sure the first 20 times doing that is really gross & icky, but one gets used to it. Helping kids in a real way, to get into college in the future, would be evening up the score from those students they took away from today.

 

[Magical2017]

Five months. Even Martha Stewart got 5 months in a cushy prison.

All 13 parents also need to do some community service like having to educate underprivileged children how to read & write. Something that would really contribute back to the community they stole from. Not something like picking up road kill from the streets. I'm sure the first 20 times doing that is really gross & icky, but one gets used to it. Helping kids in a real way, to get into college in the future would be evening up the score from those they took away today.

They could also participate in fundraising events for scholarships for students who have earned the grades to enter these elite schools but cannot afford the tuition.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Wow. I can go both ways on this. On one hand, if you got in under false pretenses, anything you earned is null and void. On the other hand, if they earned those credits, they earned those credits. Unless it can be proved that they cheated on assignments and exams, then one has to go on the presumption they did the coursework and earned the grade they have. Tough situation. I am glad I am not having to make those decisions!

It's a gesture of symbolism only. The ones affected don't care whether Stanford vacated the credits. They aren't going to Stanford any more and their new school will still know what they took and when and it's up to the new school whether they are going to count them toward a degree or not.

 

[Prince_Hawkins]

It's a gesture of symbolism only. The ones affected don't care whether Stanford vacated the credits. They aren't going to Stanford any more and their new school will still know what they took and when and it's up to the new school whether they are going to count them toward a degree or not.

Very true. The suggestions of meaningful community service are good ones.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I disagree with "And, to suddenly go from an "ok" score to an unbelievably high score." My math score went from 560 to 650 (yes, I know not outstanding never mind unbelievably high) with just the regular SA prep sessions at school.

 

[Sandeep1]

We all know these parents are going to get the Celeb treatment. I'd be stone cold shocked if any of them spend a day in jail.

 

[jdb in AZ]

We all know these parents are going to get the Celeb treatment. I'd be stone cold shocked if any of them spend a day in jail.

I figure they'll get ankle monitors and house arrest (oh the horrors!) so they can save the prison cells for violent criminals.

 

[Sandeep1]

I figure they'll get ankle monitors and house arrest (oh the horrors!) so they can save the prison cells for violent criminals.

House arrest in Malibu, sign me up!

 

[Chocolate Cake]

Five months. Even Martha Stewart got 5 months in a cushy prison.

All 13 sets of parents also need to do some community service like having to educate underprivileged children how to read & write. Something that would really contribute back to the community they stole from..

I don't think I would want these parents teaching children how to read and write. That is for a trained professional. They couldn't even teach their own children how to read and write, hence some of the SAT scores.

Also, imagine the Savior Complex some of these people would have in their expensive and stylish clothing, helping the poor children.

Not something like picking up road kill from the streets. I'm sure the first 20 times doing that is really gross & icky, but one gets used to it.

These types of people would never get used to it. They were sickened by the thought of their children attending a state school. They couldn't handle road kill. That would be a great punishment.

 

[cabanafrau]

I figure they'll get ankle monitors and house arrest (oh the horrors!) so they can save the prison cells for violent criminals.

I actually don't have a horrible aversion to the house arrest idea, simply because there would be zero cost to taxpayers and I've seen just how much house arrest does get to those who fought tooth and nail not to spend any time behind bars. It is pretty surprising exactly how chafing people find any level of restriction, and I imagine those with great wealth and privilege would find it very challenging. I don't like the idea of taxpayers spending a dime to house these losers. They wouldn't be in max security if incarcerated anyway, medium to min security, so not taking the place of violent offenders anyway.

I do think community service should be a big component -- and not the type of assignment of their own choosing. I think many shifts cleaning toilets, showers, kitchens and doing laundry at a homeless shelter would fit the bill quite nicely indeed.

Since money is no object in their minds I'd also hit them with a big, fat fine.

 

[Magical2017]

It looks like 14 parents were also hit with a money laundering charge.

 

[cabanafrau]

It looks like 14 parents were also hit with a money laundering charge.

That's gonna leave a mark.

Some of the attorneys were just talking about this. The ones with federal experience said they expect jail sentences on these. They were speculating 18 months.

 

[Imzadi]

It looks like 14 parents were also hit with a money laundering charge.

These aren't the same ones that plead guilty with Felicity Huffman.

This is a group charged with Lori Loughlin. I think her stupidly acting like there was nothing really wrong: signing autographs six days, then 3 days ago out shopping & laughing with her other daughter at a Beverly Hills Mall, and today out at a car wash, egged on the prosecutors to add charges for real jail time.

She's really kind of brainless, isn't she?

 

[Prince_Hawkins]

I actually don't have a horrible aversion to the house arrest idea, simply because there would be zero cost to taxpayers and I've seen just how much house arrest does get to those who fought tooth and nail not to spend any time behind bars. It is pretty surprising exactly how chafing people find any level of restriction, and I imagine those with great wealth and privilege would find it very challenging. I don't like the idea of taxpayers spending a dime to house these losers. They wouldn't be in max security if incarcerated anyway, medium to min security, so not taking the place of violent offenders anyway.

I do think community service should be a big component -- and not the type of assignment of their own choosing. I think many shifts cleaning toilets, showers, kitchens and doing laundry at a homeless shelter would fit the bill quite nicely indeed.

Since money is no object in their minds I'd also hit them with a big, fat fine.

I like the way you think. I wish that people over on the Jussie Smollett thread were as reasonable as you are.

 

[orangecuse]

For all the RHONJ fans- Tre and Joe acted just like Lori and look how that worked out. The judge said Tre was originally set for house arrest but her refusal to show remorse got her a year in prison, Joe with 4 (although he was probably always set for a big sentence). Judges don’t take kindly to the flaunting and all and I think Lori is cruisin for a bruisin.

 

[kaytieeldr]

She's really kind of brainless, isn't she?

I don't really think that's a fair assessment, since we don't know what the 14 additional parties have been doing.

Sure, they haven't been signing autographs - but they've likely all been going about their normal lives.

 

[Newcastle]

Lifestyles of the Rich & Brainless. . . Now Lori Loughlin's daughter is publicly blaming her parents for all this upset she is going through.

Throw your parents, who may be going to prison, under a bus.

I don't know this girl and so I don't pretend to know what she thinks or how she was raised but I would agree that coming out publicly to blame your parents, especially when they are in the midst of a legal case, is not the best move. If Olivia Jade really did say that she would never have gone along with it if she had known about it, I feel like this is just another example of dishonest behaviour because I find it really hard to believe that she did not know that she was admitted under the guise of being on the rowing team when clearly, she knew that she was not going to be on the rowing team. Again, I don't know all the details but it's actually kind of sad as it appears that her parents may have not done the best job in terms of teaching her about honestly and integrity. That's just my two cents though and I may have the details wrong.

 

[Imzadi]

I don't think I would want these parents teaching children how to read and write. That is for a trained professional. They couldn't even teach their own children how to read and write, hence some of the SAT scores.

We have literacy volunteer groups here teaching people how to read & write. I'm sure there is a particular curriculum they have to follow. Although, these volunteers do have their hearts in it.

I still can't wrap my brain around WHY two seemingly uber-intelligent people, Felicity Huffman and her hubby, did this? I think it had more to do with them feeling guilty at not taking the TIME to teach their own girls or finding good tutors. That's why I said they should be forced to spend the TIME as prison sentence to teach other people's children, what they didn't spend on their own.

 

[gwynne]

I don't really think that's a fair assessment, since we don't know what the 14 additional parties have been doing.

Sure, they haven't been signing autographs - but they've likely all been going about their normal lives.

I think the ones charged today didn't plead guilty, apologize and take responsibility.

They want to go to trial? Not sure why. There are cooperating witnesses that have been and are talking to the feds about how the whole scheme went down.

Rolling the dice at trial doesn't seem to me to be a good strategy.