CMs what is the OHRC at your attraction?

[mousermerf]

Le sigh..

OHRC changes every hour - so asking for it would be relatively useless. None of us would be able to give it anyone lest we sat there with a pen and a pencil and were copying the data sheets from the attractions by hand or were saying "well.. on average XX attraction really only runs at about 70% utilization..."

Which isn't what the OP asked.

The OP thought OHRC meant the same at THRC, which is what most people, even most ride operators, think.

The OP just wants to know what the upper-limit capacities are for the various attractions. Those are mathematical functions tied to the operations of the attractions that are based on safety limitations and building capcities. That is not proprietary information of the Walt Disney Company - no matter what BS the company may try to say otherwise.

 

[Robo]

Slow down!
I'm taking notes.

Let me see...

Disney fired their lawyer, so don't worry about copyright infringement.

Got it.

 

[WDSearcher]

And just to add - I'm not even sure it's the "The Company" that would even say such a thing.

There's this mythology of the "Disney Lawyer Brigade."

They don't exist. There's a small group of paralegals that Disney employs who send out letters to whoever Disney needs to send out angry letters to and that's about it. They hire on real lawyers only when they absolutely need to. There is not giant segment of the company that is nothing but lawyers looking to sue people. The whole segment of the company who sued all the daycare centers and other "copyright infringement" cases that were famous in the 90's and such were the work of a single man - a parapelegic who worked for a company in the character integrity department with entirely too much free time. He's gone, there's not much to worry about on that's front any more.

So.. really, lighten up.

Then again ... discussing ride per caps or throughput aren't exactly the same thing as suing a daycare over bad character paintings. Lawyers don't generally worry about the odd CM who passes along information that they probably aren't authorized to share. (Although the folks in Legal will be disappointed to know that they don't exist.) It's the folks in HR and Corporate Communications who keep tabs on who's saying what to whom.

Disney's got a fairly decent process for sharing information. While there may not be a "giant segment of the company that is nothing but lawyers", there IS a fairly large part of the company that handles Guest questions about stuff like this -- including folks who are doing research for all sorts of projects. And really ... would you rather get your research from a random CM on a fan board who may or may not have accurate info, or from the research librarian at WDI?

 

[mousermerf]

Then again ... discussing ride per caps or throughput aren't exactly the same thing as suing a daycare over bad character paintings. Lawyers don't generally worry about the odd CM who passes along information that they probably aren't authorized to share. (Although the folks in Legal will be disappointed to know that they don't exist.) It's the folks in HR and Corporate Communications who keep tabs on who's saying what to whom.

Disney's got a fairly decent process for sharing information. While there may not be a "giant segment of the company that is nothing but lawyers", there IS a fairly large part of the company that handles Guest questions about stuff like this -- including folks who are doing research for all sorts of projects. And really ... would you rather get your research from a random CM on a fan board who may or may not have accurate info, or from the research librarian at WDI?

It's the fact that if he bothered to ask the question through the proper channel, as you imply, he won get a response for 3 months, or, if he did, it'd be a non-answer or response along the lines of..

"We're so happy to hear you enjoy Rock-n-Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith at Disney Hollywood Studios part of the Walt Disney World Resort in Florida! Unfortunately we don't have any further information to share about the attraction at this time."

As someone who has actually been in contact with some of these areas and gotten a non-response and/or the above-style response, I don't see the point in directing him toward them.

 

[mebbradley]

I know Star Tours dumps a star-speeder every three minutes at Hollywood Studios. That's not classifed knowledge, that's something we were telling guests before it opened.

If each star-speeder holds 40 people (I think that's right?)...There's 6 star-speeders. Do the math? I have no desire to know how many people can go through the ride in an hour.

 

[mesaboy2]

I know Star Tours dumps a star-speeder every three minutes at Hollywood Studios. That's not classifed knowledge, that's something we were telling guests before it opened.

If each star-speeder holds 40 people (I think that's right?)...There's 6 star-speeders. Do the math? I have no desire to know how many people can go through the ride in an hour.

If forty is right, and every three minutes is right, then 800.

 

[World Showcaser]

Ok, you can believe what you want - but it's true and I've met them. whereas..? You're speculating? Haven't spoken to them? Have not met them?

Disney does not employ a giant legal department, they have no reason to do so. They hire out an as-needed basis.

You do realize that Disney deals with legal issues every single day? And they are issues that require settlements and the works...not simply angry letters. You do also understand that a simple google search will reveal the names of lawyers that are employed by Disney?

 

[kaligal]

Disney, like all major companies, would have in-house lawyers for regular stuff and would hire hot-shot corporate attorneys specializing in whatever they are up against as necessary.

 

[ygracey]

If a cast member like mousermerf was promoted multiple times by the Company, that would be one of the first indications of why Disney is/was so messed up. You were one of the cast members I SO enjoyed working with who were always getting out of situations with your shop steward. One of the reasons that so many cm's in FL do not join the union.

Thrc's are very much proprietary because there is a big difference between what some are claiming is public information like fire safety limits on occupancy and the actual number of people who go through a builing in a given period.

Let's say RCID has said that HOP can safely hold 800 people in the theater and 800 in the preshow. That's no where close to being a thrc. The thrc would depend on whether it was a 10 minute, 20 minute, 30 minute show. And of course the orhc would vary based on issues like whether they were running continuous shows, or if the theater was only half full.

I don't think thrc's are that big of a deal, because anyone who has worked in a decent theme park, or who has designed, or installed attractions or "rides" would probably be able to crunch the numbers. But there would certainly be reasons why companies in this business would want to protect their intellectual property.

One last question, if fire safety laws are public knowledge, then what is the capacity of the Magic Kingdom? Or are you going to tell us that RCID bribes public officials to keep it hush hush?

 

[A Mickeyfan]

If a cast member like mousermerf was promoted multiple times by the Company, that would be one of the first indications of why Disney is/was so messed up. You were one of the cast members I SO enjoyed working with who were always getting out of situations with your shop steward. One of the reasons that so many cm's in FL do not join the union.

Thrc's are very much proprietary because there is a big difference between what some are claiming is public information like fire safety limits on occupancy and the actual number of people who go through a builing in a given period.

Let's say RCID has said that HOP can safely hold 800 people in the theater and 800 in the preshow. That's no where close to being a thrc. The thrc would depend on whether it was a 10 minute, 20 minute, 30 minute show. And of course the orhc would vary based on issues like whether they were running continuous shows, or if the theater was only half full.

I don't think thrc's are that big of a deal, because anyone who has worked in a decent theme park, or who has designed, or installed attractions or "rides" would probably be able to crunch the numbers. But there would certainly be reasons why companies in this business would want to protect their intellectual property.

One last question, if fire safety laws are public knowledge, then what is the capacity of the Magic Kingdom? Or are you going to tell us that RCID bribes public officials to keep it hush hush?

I could be wrong, and usually get bashed on these boards lately.. but I have always heard it was 100,000 for the max capacity for the MK....

 

[asianway]

I could be wrong, and usually get bashed on these boards lately.. but I have always heard it was 100,000 for the max capacity for the MK....

Max capacity varies daily based on attractions, thoroghfare and restaurant opening/closings. It's a mathematical equation you could figure out if you knew all the components.

As far as people getting in trouble, there's a stickies thread about tickets that seems to have held the test of time that smells like it contains a lot of proprietary policy...

 

[chartle]

As far as people getting in trouble, there's a stickies thread about tickets that seems to have held the test of time that smells like it contains a lot of proprietary policy...

If you are referring to the Ticket Sticky that Cheshire Figment does, it only contains info that is readily available to any guest.

From the sticky

Please note that this information is public information which has been taken, and possibly paraphrased, from WDW web sites and from official training of WDW Cast Members who work with ATS.

 

[Cyrano]

Thread is ow closed as too may posters could not stay on topic nor resist the urge to engage in attacks.
Infractions have and will be issued accordingly