(CLOSED) The Smoking DSA's @ Resorts Info Thread

[DVCconvert]

Any new insights?

 

[englishrose47]

Interesting.

Ditto!If it's the law how is disney allowed to do this!!

 

[Lynne M]

It will be interesting to see if Disney stays with this policy. When we stayed at the Cocoa Beach Hilton in February we were given a smoking room but upon entering the room found all sorts of "no smoking" signs. When I called guest services I was told that the hotel had gone non-smoking a few months before only to learn that under Florida law they had to keep a certain percentage of rooms available for smokers (I believe he said 15%). They just hadn't finished removing all the "no smoking" signs in the rooms that were being re-designated as smoking rooms.

Maybe this law doesn't affect Disney for some reason.

It's possible that that was a local ordinance in the Cocoa Beach area, or in that county.

I'm sure that Disney's legal staff is very well versed in FL law, and that they researched this thoroughly before they made the change to all non-smoking. They wouldn't have gone to the trouble to have the smoking rooms super-cleaned, or set up DSAs, if there were a chance that they'd have to reverse it.

 

[fla4fun]

If you read the wording of the actual Florida constitutional amendment that was voted on in 2003, it says smoking MAY be allowed in designated smoking rooms at hotels, but it also says that hotel owners are permitted to make their own policy more restrictive. Here is the "exceptions" section:

"b) Exceptions. As further explained in the definitions below,
tobacco smoking may be permitted in private residences whenever they
are not being used commercially to provide child care, adult care, or
health care, or any combination thereof; and further may be permitted in
retail tobacco shops, designated smoking guest rooms at hotels and other
public lodging establishments; and stand-alone bars. However, nothing
in this section or in its implementing legislation or regulations shall
prohibit the owner, lessee, or other person in control of the use of an
enclosed indoor workplace from further prohibiting or limiting smoking
therein."

I read through the entire amendment, and could not find anything stating that 15% of the rooms should be or had to be smoking. That could have been part of whatever legislation was in effect prior to 2003.

 

[Trekker]

Just ANOTHER reminder

We are not here to debate Florida law or Disney's new policy, it is what it is, this thread is to DIScuss the DSAs at the Disney resorts. Straying OT will not be permitted.....

 

[sabrinadv1]

Sorry I have not read all of the posts, but does anyone have any insight about how the DSA's are at the CR?

 

[AggieTexan]

When Disney changed their smoking policy, I revised our room request to "First Floor near a DSA." It is noted on our paperwork from WDW. Do you think I should call the resort directly and make sure they have the request? We'll be checking into the Yacht Club Wednesday evening.

 

[tcp0421]

I only read one post on DSA at POR. Hopefully there is at least one that is covered and has some sort of seating. I wake up early every morning, so I have to leave the room until hubby and kids wake up. Last year we stayed at ASMO and I would go right outside of the food court to the tables and have coffee and smoke. It was out of the way no one even walked by (although it was between 5-7am). Hopefully there is something there. It would be nice to see some pics on DSA's.

 

[DLBDS]

Does anyone know?

 

[glewis1123]

We've been at WDW since June 9th and will be here til the 19th.

First 5 nights were at AKL with only 3 DSA's. We are now at BCV and they have several DSA's - all benches near some sort of ashtray stand. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a table w/umbrella at the pool area - whether the community pool or SAB.

While AKL only had 3 DSA's - I find that their tables w/umbrellas at Uzima springs were a lot nicer than anything I've seen at BCV.

JMO

 

[sarah4770]

I just want to thank all of you for the information on the dsa's.

 

[cc1075]

I have a question - being a heavy smoker - my clothes and other things, I am sure smell of smoke. I have not smoked in a OKW room or balcony for the last three years, but I am sure my things smell. Should the renter after me notice the smell - will Disney then charge me the cleaning fee even though I haven't and won't smoke in the room?? Just a thought - - remember we smokers carry the smell with us!!

 

[JennaTX]

I was at the BC from the end of May until the 4th of June. The only problem I had with the DSA (and I only went to one on my last day) was that I could not find it! I had a map, walked around a few times, finally asked a CM and they took me to it.

It was a bench (covered) and had one of those long "neck" ashtrays. I was very glad to see that it was a covered area.

Unfortunately you could not tell it was a DSA which might add to problems between smokers and non smokers. Hopefully they will add something to the area to make it known that it is a DSA.

 

[LBelle]

great thread so far...subscribing!!!

 

[A Mickeyfan]

Does anyone know?

From what I was told, they are suppose to be using some sort of machine to clean the entire room up. A friend of mine's DH works at the GF and he was saying that once the room is defumed and if Disney does detect the smell, they will place anywhere from $250-500 for cleaning onto your bill. That was when I told them that I had been in my room and they never defumed it (or what ever they wanted to call it) & I hoped they weren't going to be adding any charges to me. There was no smoking going on in my room, but we did have a smoking room... checked in on May 28th and out on June 9th. I would think they had to defume mine when I checked out...
I guess once a room is done, that would be when they start with the fee. I did see them going around with some sort of big blue machine and a hose over at the Sports...???????

 

[kakiegirl]

I have not read all of the posts, so this may have already been discussed. We just returned from our trip to All Star Movies. We were placed in a room that had previously been a smoking room and to us non-smokers it was awful. We called the front desk and they told us when we went to the park that afternoon they would bring around a machine that was guaranteed to get the smell out of the room. We got back around 11:00 that night and it was no better. I called the front desk again and they said they would send someone. The did with a room deodorizer they sprayed on the carpet, this lasted about 10 minutes. I called the front desk again and the next morning they thankfully moved us to a new room. They would have moved us that night but had no preferred rooms available and DD was already asleep anyway. The did inform me that they had changed the drapes and bedspreads in all smoking room. However, I would imagine eventually they will have to change matresses and carpet also to completly get the smell out. It was so bad that I had to wash all our clothes because they smelled like stale cigarette smoke. I am posting this just so you will know if any one in your party suffers from severe alergies or asthma you may want to make a request that you not be placed in a previously smoking room until they have all been redone.

 

[jjohnson]

I was at the BC from the end of May until the 4th of June. The only problem I had with the DSA (and I only went to one on my last day) was that I could not find it! I had a map, walked around a few times, finally asked a CM and they took me to it.

It was a bench (covered) and had one of those long "neck" ashtrays. I was very glad to see that it was a covered area.

Unfortunately you could not tell it was a DSA which might add to problems between smokers and non smokers. Hopefully they will add something to the area to make it known that it is a DSA.

Your not the only one. I spoke with a CM attending a conference at BWI last week. She said she never found the DSA either.

 

[Alicnwondrln]

I have a question - being a heavy smoker - my clothes and other things, I am sure smell of smoke. I have not smoked in a OKW room or balcony for the last three years, but I am sure my things smell. Should the renter after me notice the smell - will Disney then charge me the cleaning fee even though I haven't and won't smoke in the room?? Just a thought - - remember we smokers carry the smell with us!!

i am not a smoker but my mil is and this my concern for our upcoming trip

 

[englishrose47]

Just a thought for us smokers if they made the smoking areas more visible and more convenient the need to smoke in undesignated areas would be far less. I have no problem not smoking in the room but do not expect to have to hunt for an area that I can. The mod linked me to a map that had DSA for Pop No way could I see them the map is to small and blurry.I don't smoke in the house at home but do on the front porch and have never heard the smell or smoke drifts into the house and believe me I would hear if it did so I have a hard time believing it would drift in from the walkway unless I was puffing it under the door which I wouldn't do!!

 

[Dizneydaz]

I have a few questions for anyone whose been to POP since the change and could, hopefully, answer a few ?? Neither my DM, or I smoke, but my DSis does, and I want to be able to tell her where she'll be able to smoke. I've printed the map from the link on the first page and my questions are:

-There are many DSA locations shown on the walk around the lake-is the entire walk a DSA, or only select locations?
-All the buildings have their own DSA except the 70's. Is the correct, or a printing error?
-Is smoking allowed in the parking lots? I won't let DSis smoke in our vehicle, but maybe she can smoke in the parking lot, on the way to our room?

I can see I'm going to really have to study the map to figure out which building, etc. to request to accomodate DSis's DSA; being kinda close to food court; & beingkinda close to parking. I wanted to stay in a different decade, this year. We've done 50' & 70's, so far.

Thanks for allowing discussion on this subject.

TIA