Churro Waffles- Concierge Only?

[jimmymc]

Or the cast members were correct in DCL pivoted after they had so much backlash?

I also wonder at what point we shouldn't believe cast members. I've heard multiple accounts that the last sailing that just ended had only 2500 guests on the Destiny. This was reported to them by multiple CMs and servers to several different cruisers on the sailing.

Should we not have believed the CMs when they said that happy hours were going away even though they have gone away fleet wide?

DCL clearly pivoted on this it's pretty telling because they already were selling them from the get-go. I am glad DCL pivoted, but to say that the crew doesn't know what they're talking about is not ok

I would need to see evidence for "clearly pivoted after backlash" as opposed to "didn't have the capacity at launch". Not having all the supplies and all machines up and running for a few weeks after the maiden voyage isn't a crazy idea.

This thread had a pretty adverse reaction due to a rumor that seemingly wasn't true. Plenty of them turn out to be true, but just because a cast member says somethings doesn't mean it's gospel.

 

[dreamer17555]

I would need to see evidence for "clearly pivoted after backlash" as opposed to "didn't have the capacity at launch". Not having all the supplies and all machines up and running for a few weeks after the maiden voyage isn't a crazy idea.

This thread had a pretty adverse reaction due to a rumor that seemingly wasn't true. Plenty of them turn out to be true, but just because a cast member says somethings doesn't mean it's gospel.

Its hard to say what is an isn't rumor. DCL launched several ships with churro waffles from the start. The idea that they suddenly lacked the ability seems a bit suspicious when they were selling them onboard.

DCL pretty much lives in rumors and does not go out of their way to confirm anything. For instance the duck "rumor", DCL could EASILY clarify their stance but shoreside says one thing, the website offers no guidance (though Plan Disney is an official Disney site) and the crew onboard says something else. DCL could often make things easier by being clear and honest but does not.

The rumors about the Happy Hours going away, or live animation being switched to a glorified YouTube video playing turned out to be 100% correct.

If DCL just could not get it together to have churro waffles on the Destiny for the Maiden and following sailing I have concerns that they are expanding too rapidly to find crew that is as capable as the one they launched the Treasure and Wish on.

 

[Bibbidi_Boo]

Or the cast members were correct in DCL pivoted after they had so much backlash?

I also wonder at what point we shouldn't believe cast members. I've heard multiple accounts that the last sailing that just ended had only 2500 guests on the Destiny. This was reported to them by multiple CMs and servers to several different cruisers on the sailing.

Should we not have believed the CMs when they said that happy hours were going away even though they have gone away fleet wide?

DCL clearly pivoted on this it's pretty telling because they already were selling them from the get-go. I am glad DCL pivoted, but to say that the crew doesn't know what they're talking about is not ok

I don’t believe DCL pivoted at all. There is not real benefit for them to offer only in concierge , they are still selling the rooms very well they don’t need churro waffles to make book those rooms.

 

[John VN]

The ONLY CM one can believe would be a WDW Bus Driver

 

[holula]

Or the cast members were correct in DCL pivoted after they had so much backlash?

I also wonder at what point we shouldn't believe cast members. I've heard multiple accounts that the last sailing that just ended had only 2500 guests on the Destiny. This was reported to them by multiple CMs and servers to several different cruisers on the sailing.

I was on that sailing and I believe it was only at 2500. We didn’t have any show matinees and even Marceline was never busy at peak times. Several different CMs reported it at 2500 to me. They said the cruise that starts today is back somewhere in the 3000s though.

 

[Joanna71985]

Or the cast members were correct in DCL pivoted after they had so much backlash?

I also wonder at what point we shouldn't believe cast members. I've heard multiple accounts that the last sailing that just ended had only 2500 guests on the Destiny. This was reported to them by multiple CMs and servers to several different cruisers on the sailing.

Should we not have believed the CMs when they said that happy hours were going away even though they have gone away fleet wide?

DCL clearly pivoted on this it's pretty telling because they already were selling them from the get-go. I am glad DCL pivoted, but to say that the crew doesn't know what they're talking about is not ok

I just got off the Destiny, and it was not busy at all. They didn't do a matinee for Hercules, and the first show still had empty seats. Plus the MDR had multiple empty tables (I got a solo table, at a 6 seater)

 

[dreamer17555]

I don’t believe DCL pivoted at all. There is not real benefit for them to offer only in concierge , they are still selling the rooms very well they don’t need churro waffles to make book those rooms.

Concierge is not selling well or DCL would not have allowed Placeholders to be used for a 10% discount on concierge rooms on several upcoming sailings (including into the summer season).

I think DCL is in trouble and anything that could reduce workload (less staff) and they could charge for (like at Edna's) is on the table

I was on that sailing and I believe it was only at 2500. We didn’t have any show matinees and even Marceline was never busy at peak times. Several different CMs reported it at 2500 to me. They said the cruise that starts today is back somewhere in the 3000s though.

Thank you for sharing. This is what I mean by DCL is not doing well. The idea that a new ship, not even a month from the Maiden, is sailing less than 65% full (especially when I have heard the discounts they offered for CMs for it) is really a bad sign. I know early December is not a prime travel time but I did not think DCL would have any issue filling the Destiny during it and I doubt DCL saw this coming either.

I have been waiting for word on the naming of Wish #4 (timeline wise we should have a name before Xmas) and it is has been crickets. I would not be surprised if we dont get a name until mid Jan at the earliest because they want people to focus on the current offerings that are not selling well.

 

[SL6827]

I am truly starting to think about cancelling my 4-night cruise in September and place my bet on getting a really nice discount on a VGT room on a 4-night during that month on the Fantasy. Or possibly getting a 5-night cruise on the Fantasy for around the same price of my current cruise. I am starting to study, log and compare cruises, prices, dates, probability and such. I never imagined that DCL would have a need for such a steady string of discounts to fill the ships. Maybe the uptick in the number of CL rooms to increase profits has backfired?

 

[lilmc]

Then my DD turned 18+
And I did not speak out
I just started booking Virgin Voyages instead

Us, too! The 2027 Transatlantic being on the Wish was the final straw. Pivoting to Alaska on Virgin

 

[dreamer17555]

I am truly starting to think about cancelling my 4-night cruise in September and place my bet on getting a really nice discount on a VGT room on a 4-night during that month on the Fantasy. Or possibly getting a 5-night cruise on the Fantasy for around the same price of my current cruise. I am starting to study, log and compare cruises, prices, dates, probability and such. I never imagined that DCL would have a need for such a steady string of discounts to fill the ships. Maybe the uptick in the number of CL rooms to increase profits has backfired?

If you can be flexible with when you sail, I think it is 99.9% likely that discounts or restricted GT rates appear for September (DCL always struggles to fill ships in September).

 

[DCL58]

I am truly starting to think about cancelling my 4-night cruise in September and place my bet on getting a really nice discount on a VGT room on a 4-night during that month on the Fantasy. Or possibly getting a 5-night cruise on the Fantasy for around the same price of my current cruise. I am starting to study, log and compare cruises, prices, dates, probability and such. I never imagined that DCL would have a need for such a steady string of discounts to fill the ships. Maybe the uptick in the number of CL rooms to increase profits has backfired?

September is hurricane season. We always sail VGT in September/October.

We are sailing a 5 night on the Fantasy next month VGT for about $500 per night for 2 people.