Children and teens on the DIS

[figment52]

It's when we have an idea, but we plant the seed (meant in a very innocent way!) in our SO's brain. The seed germinates and becomes his (or her, I suppose) idea. Which we of course then think is a very good idea when our SO suggests it. Not that I've ever done this, of course.

Carefully, that is information that no 14 yo should have in their possession They may find out it works on teens too.

 

[luvmydogs]

Please explain why this isn't a personal attack - not that I'm accusing you Marseeya. (That is, afterall, how we disclaim responsibility, right?)

Dana, Cara, or whatever you go by, perhaps in your environment, people would laugh at a parent who expresses concern with homosexual issues discussed with her teen, but here, this is a touchy subject and as yet has been rejected to be taught in "family life" as an alternate lifestyle.

People do and should speak out against bigotry, prejudice and hate speech. If I see someone make homophobic, xenophobic, racist or mysogynistic comments (usually under the guise of "it's only my opinion," of course), you'd better believe I'll say my peace on such crap. I'd be remiss not too. If you're going to spew intolerance, you'd better be prepared for the reprocussions.

I've been speaking to my ds10 about homosexuality since he was five and got off the bus wondering why someone called so-and-so a (epithet for gay man). Now he tells others why it's wrong to judge gays and lesbians because of their orientation (no, I don't buy the lifestyle argument). Condemn me if you will, but I'm glad he's been educated from such an early age, although I'm amazed that at such a young age he's more tolerant than many adults.

I'm glad hate speech isn't tolerated here, as WMKathy has stated--although I certainly wish that we weren't in need of such a policy.

 

[GEM]

For the record here, we have zero tolerance for hate speech. You're not going to find support or a forum for anti-gay rhetoric, racial prejudice, or any other form of hate.

Truly, anyone who feels so uncomfortable with the Gay/Lesbian Forum that they don't want their kids to read the DISboards or who feels compelled to speak out against "them" probably won't be really happy here....

 

[SPAM]

sorry if this is a repost i didnt want to read 14 pages to through in my two cents
ive been coming on the DIS sinceI was 14 (Im 18 now) and I agree, this is probably the cleanest web site i go on. i dont think it is a bad influence, if you dont like the stuff you see on here then you might as well not let them go anywhere on the internet.

 

[kayeandjim00]

People do and should speak out against bigotry, prejudice and hate speech. If I see someone make homophobic, xenophobic, racist or mysogynistic comments (usually under the guise of "it's only my opinion," of course), you'd better believe I'll say my peace on such crap. I'd be remiss not too. If you're going to spew intolerance, you'd better be prepared for the reprocussions.

Well said Kim!

I find it extremely sad that opinions like those of the OP still exist. As long as they are still around they will pass it on to their children and the cycle of hate and intolerance continues. It's sad for the children really - what chance do they have to learn tolerance if they dont' even hear it at home.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

For the record here, we have zero tolerance for hate speech. You're not going to find support or a forum for anti-gay rhetoric, racial prejudice, or any other form of hate.

Truly, anyone who feels so uncomfortable with the Gay/Lesbian Forum that they don't want their kids to read the DISboards or who feels compelled to speak out against "them" probably won't be really happy here....

I probably should learn to keep my big mouth shut (and my big fingers off the keyboard sometimes), but I fall into the subcategory of those would not let my children (preteens) read the particular forum in debate here. But as for me personally, I feel welcome here and enjoy posting here. I know that my worldview is somewhat different than the always predictable majority here, but I never have translated that into being unwelcome or out of place.

 

[chessie]

Boy has this thread gone off topic. The OP was only expressing her concern for all the off color posts that have been happening. Even thought they get zapped they still occur. Using the argument that they've seen worse really doesn't hold water. They have seen worse and heard worse too.You want to give your kids an example of how people should behave. A site where those who have Disney in common congregate should be that sort of site. We all really need to be mindful to keep our comments in the context of the Disney PG rating.

 

[WebmasterAlex]

Boy has this thread gone off topic. The OP was only expressing her concern for all the off color posts that have been happening. Even thought they get zapped they still occur. Using the argument that they've seen worse really doesn't hold water. They have seen worse and heard worse too.You want to give your kids an example of how people should behave. A site where those who have Disney in common congregate should be that sort of site. We all really need to be mindful to keep our comments in the context of the Disney PG rating.

They absolutely do occur! The thing is I don't see them occuring any more often on the Gay and Lesbian board than on the Teen board or the Community board. Actually I am pretty sure they are less common.

 

[Hannathy]

I allow my newly 14 DD on these boards I would much rather she be on here than watching network TV!!! I don't worry about her on the computer because 1. both our computers are in open areas - the Family room and kitchen
2. She knows her Father or I can and do occasionally check and see where she has been on the computer.
I have seen nothing inappropriate on any board here. My goodness they discuss "worse" things at school all the time.

 

[TnKrBeLlA012]

Well said Kim!

I find it extremely sad that opinions like those of the OP still exist. As long as they are still around they will pass it on to their children and the cycle of hate and intolerance continues. It's sad for the children really - what chance do they have to learn tolerance if they dont' even hear it at home.

This may be the million dollar question on this board. Why is it if you disagree with a topic that must mean you are spewing hate and intolerance. If someone feels that the gay lifestyle is wrong does that automatically make them bad people? Does it mean they must be hateful people? I think many people need a reality check. My kids are probably the nicest kids you could find. I don't worry about drinking,sex,stealing,ect.. They don't make fun of anyone or laugh at people who are different. I raised them to be good people. That's what is important to me. I don't need to say be nice to gays,blacks, or anyone who is different than you. They know better. It is all in how you raise them. Parents today need to be parents. That is where it all begins. I personally don't agree with the gay lifestyle. My kids don't think that is the way to go either. Everyone has a right to their believes. It is okay not to always agree with popular opinion. Guess what? That doesn't make anyone a bad person.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

Boy has this thread gone off topic. The OP was only expressing her concern for all the off color posts that have been happening.

That wasn't all she was concerned with. She mentioned the fact that she was bothered at the placement of the G/L forum, next to the teen forum.

I don't understand not accepting people who are g/l. It's a fact of life that they are g/l, it's not a choice any more than my blue eyes are a choice. Sure, I could wear brown contacts, but I'd still have the blue eyes, wouldn't I?

 

[GEM]

TIf someone feels that the gay lifestyle is wrong does that automatically make them bad people?

I'll be totally honest, in my mind, it does. I really apologize, because you sound very nice and sincere. I have to say in truth, though, that I wouldn't be able to consider anyone who holds the opinion that you do to be a good person - just like I wouldn't be able to consider anyone who found black people to be inferior to whites to be a good person - no matter how polite or well mannered they were about it or how many other wonderful qualities they had. "Good" is obviously one of those words that is completely subjective, though, isn't it?

 

[soccercruiser87]

alright well heres my 2 cents to the topic. Im a moderator on the Teen Board and me and my co-moderator PG Sweetie keep the Teen Board clean from any inappropriate topics and make sure we dont have any type of spam on that board. Us moderators arent on the DIS 24/7, therefore an inappropriate thread may linger on a certain board for a while until the thread gets reported by a DISer or a moderator notices it. And this is the cleanest and most fun website i have ever been on. All the moderators and Webmasters do a good job to keep things here on the DIS appropriate.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

One other comment--accepting g/l doesn't not mean preferring that our children are g/l. I will accept my children no matter what their sexual orientation is. If I would get to choose, I would choose that they be straight. I think it's easier in out society to be straight. Just like I'd prefer that they marry inside our religion, and marry someone who is vegetarian. But it's not the way it works! My children will follow their hearts and do right by themselves. And I will love and accept them for who they are.

 

[Wishing on a star]

Hhhmmmm, so it is okay to say "You are a hateful and ignorant bigot"

but it is not okay to say, "I do not approve of a certain activity or lifestyle"

Which one is the obvious hateful namecalling here!!!

I agree with those who see the blatant double standard.

 

[Wishing on a star]

I wanted to add that the gay/lesbian issue is not the only one where the double standard applies.

Why is it okay for the liberals to post a blatant and open Bush Bashing Fest and this is Okay????

Apparantly, hate speach is WELL tolerated when it happens to be polically correct.

 

[tiggersmom2]

I'll be totally honest, in my mind, it does. I really apologize, because you sound very nice and sincere. I have to say in truth, though, that I wouldn't be able to consider anyone who holds the opinion that you do to be a good person - just like I wouldn't be able to consider anyone who found black people to be inferior to whites to be a good person - no matter how polite or well mannered they were about it or how many other wonderful qualities they had. "Good" is obviously one of those words that is completely subjective, though, isn't it?

Wow - your post is really sitting wrong with me. You are going to call TnKrBeLlA012 a bad person for not agreeing with a certain lifestyle while you are on another thread basically calling a 19 year old a slut for moving in with her boyfriend. Love that logic!

 

[Tigger&Belle]

Hhhmmmm, so it is okay to say "You are a hateful and ignorant bigot"

but it is not okay to say, "I do not approve of a certain activity or lifestyle"

Which one is the obvious hateful namecalling here!!!

I agree with those who see the blatant double standard.

I'm don't think that namecalling is the answer no matter who it comes from (and you can go through the replies to see if I've done it).

But what is there to approve of? G/l people don't make a choice to be g/l. It's the way they are "wired". My blue eye analogy is accurate. And I always wanted brown eyes, but it wasn't going to happen--I have blue eyes.

 

[Maleficent13]

Apparantly, hate speach is WELL tolerated when it happens to be polically correct.

Oxymoron.

Also, "apparently" and "speech" are spelled with an "e".

And regarding the "Bush Bashing" threads being the only ones allowed, try the Jimmy Carter thread.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

My kids are probably the nicest kids you could find. I don't worry about drinking,sex,stealing,ect..

I'm jut curious why you don't need to worry about these things? How old are your kids? My kids are nice and sweet and I still worry about these things (DD is 14 and DS is 13).