Children and teens on the DIS

[Tigger&Belle]

Back to the "lifestyle". GEM summed it up very well when she said that "their" lifestyles are not any different than anyone else at their stage of life. Gay/lesbians are much more like the average straight person than they are different. The last time I checked, they still put their pants on one leg at a time. Not that I usually watch people put their pants on, but you know what I mean.

 

[GEM]

It just boggles my mind. To talk about the "gay lifestyle" is just as bizarre to me as it would be to talk about the "black lifestyle" or the "white lifestyle" or the "male lifestyle" or the "blue eyed lifestyle".

I honestly don't know what people mean by that. Is there some particular "white, early thirties, married with a toddler" lifestyle that I should be living?? I'm worried that I may not be following the correct plan . . .

 

[luvmydogs]

What in this wonderful, beautiful world that God has given us is a "gay lifestyle?" Was I absent the day when we all made the choice? I must've been, and someone went right on ahead and checked the 'straight box' for me, 'cause I surely know I've made no conscious decision to be hetero.

Speech and mindsets like this disgust me as much as if it were said in reference to a person of color or a Jew. Hey, what's a Jewish Lifestyle? I'd love for someone to tell me if they're not afraid--or better yet, say it right to a Jew's face. Any takers? I'll never understand why whom one *loves* should be a reference point for judgement.

 

[Planogirl]

Not approving of the gay "lifestyle" is kind of like telling someone that you don't like the color of their eyes or how short they are. These folks are what they are and people not liking that doesn't change that fact.

Besides what difference does it really make if some people don't approve? OK, they don't approve and now we all move on. It really doesn't make a bit of difference.

As for bashing George Bush being hate speech, that's pretty odd IMO. Lots of INDIVIDUALS in the public eye get criticized on these boards. But I suppose that critiquing Bush is unAmerican. Sigh...

 

[Aidensmom]

I would have no problem having my son post here as a teenager. He is 4 now, and is sometimes in the room with me when I am online. He sees pictures or smilies here and likes to come look at them, and I don't have a problem at all with this site being up in the computer when he is around.

As far as the Gay and Lesbian forum goes, teens are not ignorant. They know there are gay people. They themselves could have those feelings. I don't understand what people think they are accomplishing by trying to keep that kind of forum from a teenager, especially one on a board that is about Disney trip planning? It's not like it is a forum that is going to be full of sexual references or anything, this site is well moderated.

As far goes as people judging "goodness", when did God pass his duties on to you? Even if it is your religious belief that homosexuality is wrong, I am sure it is your belief that some things you do every day are wrong too, seeing as how none of us are perfect. It might be best you stay away from the internet altogether, because none of the people you'll meet can measure up to the perfect definition of "goodness".

 

[Lil_Tink]

Which smilies are inappropriate? The smoking one is the only one that surprised me. To be honest, I like to kid around alot here, but I am kind
of shocked at some of the personal topics people talk about.

Ya..The only one I dont like is this one

 

[Tigger&Belle]

Speech and mindsets like this disgust me as much as if it were said in reference to a person of color or a Jew. Hey, what's a Jewish Lifestyle? I'd love for someone to tell me if they're not afraid--or better yet, say it right to a Jew's face. Any takers? I'll never understand why whom one *loves* should be a reference point for judgement.

Well, I can kind of see the Jewish lifestyle or LDS lifestyle, etc. I did "check the Jewish box" when I converted and there are certain things that we do that I didn't do growing up before I converted. And there are plenty of things that we don't do that someone more observant would likely do.


But there's not much else different, other than the obvious, that gay/lesbians do. Of course there are issues that they deal with that have been mentioned here, mainly because of the discrimination that they face, but that's not a difference. The real differences go on behind closed doors.

I also don't remember checking the "straight box".

 

[DisneyPhD]

Since we are already off topic, I do think a "gay lifestyle" does exsist. The thing is I don't think most gay people follow it so it is really mislabled. The same life style is out there for hetrosexaul people also I don't aprove of it for them either. However it isn't my place to judge so I try to stay away from that.

My best friend has a very dear friend of hers she has known since college. During this time he decided he was gay. Since that time he has radically changed is life style. It think we all know what kind I am talking about. Her hope is he will get it out of his system and mature out of it soon.

However most gay people I know (and the ones that represent themselves on this board) aren't like that at all. The same thing goes with styerotyical gay person. Yes, some people who are gay are that way, many are not.

This "gay lifestyle" that might be represented in Sex in the City is not what the Gay and Lesbin board on Dis is about. But then again the hetrosexual life style on Sex in the City is hardly represented on Dis either.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

Since we are already off topic, I do think a "gay lifestyle" does exsist.

OMG, we need to note the date--I think it's the first time that I've ever disagreed with you!


I think that what you are describing is a gay "extreme". There are extremes within all people/groups of people. Also, it might be a description of a gay stereotype. Of course some people fit the stereotype, but many do not. Regardless, a persons sexual orientation is a fact, not a lifestyle, preference, or choice.

 

[DisneyPhD]

OMG, we need to note the date--I think it's the first time that I've ever disagreed with you!


I think that what you are describing is a gay "extreme". There are extremes within all people/groups of people. Also, it might be a description of a gay stereotype. Of course some people fit the stereotype, but many do not. Regardless, a persons sexual orientation is a fact, not a lifestyle, preference, or choice.

Actually I think we don't disagree all that much. I think exteme would be a better catagory, but it does exsisit. The thing is it doesn't filt all gay people, or even most gay people for that mater. While it very dangerous and wrong to amusme people fit in a styero type, they do exsist for a reason. I also think it developed in the 1980's a very different time then now (both both gay and stright people.

I agree that most people don't live this gay extreme life style, but it does exsist. To say it doesn't is just putting your head in the sand.

Oh I also think being gay can be a choice for some people. I am not saying all, but some people choice to be, then choice not to (Ann Hesh anyone?)

 

[Tigger&Belle]

I suppose that I would agree that someone who is bisexual can choose if they want someone of the same or different gender for a partner. I don't really know how common it is to be bisexual and only know of one person who I know is bi. I don't know her well and it surprised me when she said that she had a guy she was interested in.

I mean, being straight, I guess I could choose to have a lesbian affair--could make that choice--it's a free country, afterall. Just in case my DD is lurking--NO, I'm not making that choice.


And I do agree, from what I've heard, that there used to be a lot more sleeping around within the gay community (and straight, too, I suppose). AIDS put the fear of death in a lot of people, both straight and gay.

 

[DisneyPhD]

I mean, being straight, I guess I could choose to have a lesbian affair--could make that choice--it's a free country, afterall. Just in case my DD is lurking--NO, I'm not making that choice.


And I do agree, from what I've heard, that there used to be a lot more sleeping around within the gay community (and straight, too, I suppose). AIDS put the fear of death in a lot of people, both straight and gay.

Does that mean you aren't hitting on me? Sorry, I just couldn't resist!

That is rather what I ment by the 1980's comment.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

Does that mean you aren't hitting on me? Sorry, I just couldn't resist!

Nah, I don't roll that way, as my DD says!

 

[DisneyPhD]

Nah, I don't roll that way, as my DD says!

Looks like you are rolling to me, on the floor laughing that is.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

Looks like you are rolling to me, on the floor laughing that is.

Well yes, but it's how I'm rolling that is important!

 

[Shugardrawers]

I've seen this kind of statement a number of times here... can you help me understand what is really meant by it?

If I say I don't believe in something, I mean that I don't think it exists. For instance, I don't believe in the Easter Bunny.

Does "She does not believe in the gay lifestyle" mean she doesn't believe it exists? Or that she condemns it or thinks it should be illegal? Or just that the idea of it makes her uncomfortable?

Maybe it's a matter of symantics but I was wondering the same thing. My mother doesn't "believe" in chiropractors. You can't deny their existance. The fact that a person's religion or personal values tells them homosexuality is wrong doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If you find it sinful and wrong in your opinion, then say so!