Check this out!

[kaffinito]

Hey guys, check this out: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20080815/ap_tr_ge/travel_brief_disneyland_protest

Apparently Disney is doing more than just raising the price of admission and the resort rates, what do you think of this?

 

[Praying Colonel]

Can a mod move this to the "News and Rumors" board? While an important story, it's off-topic for this board.

 

[POOH&PIGLET]

I wonder if anyone has pictures of Mickey in cuffs getting hauled away.

 

[POOH&PIGLET]

Here we go: Peter Pan getting put into a squad car

 

[bradk]

i wonder who paid for all the costumes.

 

[CanadianGuy]

Yeah.. this is going over to the News Board. It is newsworthy but it's not about the park in Florida..

The News Board is the proper home.

Thanks,

Knox

 

[Cool-Beans]

I've just started reading and it sounds like union crap to me. We'll see.

eta: And it is union crap. I must be some kind of genius.

I'd like to know what the person making $30K/year does that they're whining about not having enough. I am sure it is hard caring for 3 grandkids and their great-grandmother. But I'm always hearing how poorly Disney pays and am wondering who gets $30K/year.

As usual, I feel that if a person thinks they can do better they should go and do better, not sit around and whine or, as in this case, hold a temper tantrum.

 

[kaffinito]

Sorry guys! I forgot about the News and rumors board!

I apologize!

 

[imthatgirl]

i feel bad for those emplyees. as i do for all the workers across this country that are facing the same future. this problem is not unique to DL but it seems its more news worthy because it is DL. it just reminds us that the disney empire is a business and it runs like one.

 

[disneyin2008]

While I always sympathize with workers who have benefits cut.....in most parts of the country part time workers simply do not get benefits of any kind. Vacation, health care, sick days, etc. It's been an ongoing mess that business cut employees hours to 30-35 hours a week so that they can be classified as "part time" and therefore lose their benefits. (and the really sucky part is most times those same employees have the same responsibilites they did when they were scheduled for 40 hours a week).

So, if the Disneyland employees have had these benefits as part timers for all this time, then they were lucky.

And if the report is right and other hotels in the area pay a couple dollars an hour more and give benefits, then I guess the Disneyland employees should apply there......it will get them what they want and if enough do it, may force Disney to not take away what they had.

Sorry, not a fan of unions and protests, especially when most times what the union is demanding is not what other employees around the country are getting. Yeah, maybe the argument then is that all employees should be part of a union, but having been a union employee once upon a time, I can say I'd never take another job that required union membership. I've yet to find many union members who are happy about what their union is doing (except right after the new contract gives them a raise in salary....because they didn't notice the other things they gave up).

I do find it a little disturbing that the protesters would dress up in costume and stand there spewing ugly words. The law protects them from being fired for protesting, but I hope Disney management is making a list and checking it twice when it comes time to hand out presents in the future. Can you imagine how awful it would be to be a guest and having to explain to your 4 year old that THAT Peter Pan isn't really THE Peter Pan so don't cry that he's being arrested? Definitely not employee of the month material.

 

[imthatgirl]

I've just started reading and it sounds like union crap to me. We'll see.

eta: And it is union crap. I must be some kind of genius.

I'd like to know what the person making $30K/year does that they're whining about not having enough. I am sure it is hard caring for 3 grandkids and their great-grandmother. But I'm always hearing how poorly Disney pays and am wondering who gets $30K/year.

As usual, I feel that if a person thinks they can do better they should go and do better, not sit around and whine or, as in this case, hold a temper tantrum.

im confused by your reply. are you saying that someone making 30K has nothing to complain about? you say you hear disney pays poorly, 30k isnt a good salery...maybe im miss reading it?

i would agree if you want better get better...unfortunately in the economy we are in jobs are hard to come by and if you ahve one you dont want to pay to get worse

 

[disneygal2007]

I've just started reading and it sounds like union crap to me. We'll see.

eta: And it is union crap. I must be some kind of genius.

I'd like to know what the person making $30K/year does that they're whining about not having enough. I am sure it is hard caring for 3 grandkids and their great-grandmother. But I'm always hearing how poorly Disney pays and am wondering who gets $30K/year.

As usual, I feel that if a person thinks they can do better they should go and do better, not sit around and whine or, as in this case, hold a temper tantrum.

I hope I read this wring. Do you realize how much it takes to make it in Ca.

30K is nothing in CA.
Maybe I just read it this wrong. I need coffee

 

[Buzz Litebeer]

i wonder who paid for all the costumes.

Unite Here Local 681.

As it says in the article:

"Clearly we're disappointed that Unite Here Local 681 has spent more time protesting," (said Disney spokeswoman Lisa Haines). "Publicity stunts are not productive and are extremely disruptive to the resort district."

Note to Lisa: That's kinda the point.

I'd like to know what the person making $30K/year does that they're whining about not having enough. I am sure it is hard caring for 3 grandkids and their great-grandmother. But I'm always hearing how poorly Disney pays and am wondering who gets $30K/year.

The issue here isn't about pay. It's that some CMs at Disneyland area hotels (certainly not all Disney CMs!) are currently enjoying free healthcare benefits that Disney wants to take away. Naturally, they're not pleased about this.

And as others here have noted, $30K is nothing in SoCal.

 

[BostonRob]

I've never had any employer pay 75% of my health care, let alone 100%, so people complaining about that won't get much sympathy from me.

 

[Buzz Litebeer]

I've never had any employer pay 75% of my health care, let alone 100%, so people complaining about that won't get much sympathy from me.

It's not that the CMs don't have free benefits and want them -- rather, it's that they've had them in exchange for lower wages -- and now Disney wants to take the free benefits away and continue to pay the CMs at the lower wage.

 

[bytheblood]

I read this story this morning and it broke my heart - for several reasons really.

 

[Cool-Beans]

im confused by your reply. are you saying that someone making 30K has nothing to complain about? you say you hear disney pays poorly, 30k isnt a good salery...maybe im miss reading it?

i would agree if you want better get better...unfortunately in the economy we are in jobs are hard to come by and if you ahve one you dont want to pay to get worse

I want to know what the position is. I'm not arguing that it is a lot or whatever it is you are misreading into it.

I just want to know what they're doing to get $30K/year from a company that pays so poorly.

And if the employees can't do better for themselves somewhere else, then perhaps they should just shut the heck up and be happy that they have the best job they are able to get. Lots of folks can't even get a job.

The folks who go on pro-union rants should hire themselves some part-time employees and pay for their health care. Then come on back and say how evil Disney is for not doing it.

 

[imthatgirl]

I want to know what the position is. I'm not arguing that it is a lot or whatever it is you are misreading into it.

I just want to know what they're doing to get $30/year from a company that pays so poorly.

And if the employees can't do better for themselves somewhere else, then perhaps they should just shut the heck up and be happy that they have the best job they are able to get. Lots of folks can't even get a job.

The folks who go on pro-union rants should hire themselves some part-time employees and pay for their health care. Then come on back and say how evil Disney is for not doing it.

i guess im still missreading it ,as 30K is poor pay?
the point isnt that disney has to pay for healthcare, its that they have always gotten it and now its being taken away. thats a pay cut anyway you want to look at it. and a pay cut from 30K, where does that leave you?

 

[BostonRob]

It's not that the CMs don't have free benefits and want them -- rather, it's that they've had them in exchange for lower wages -- and now Disney wants to take the free benefits away and continue to pay the CMs at the lower wage.

Well as I read it, the people who are already working there would keep their free benefits or maybe they'd get 75% paid, I'm not sure. So in my opinion, being asked to pay for 25% of your benefits is better than getting laid off because the tourism industry is going in the tank. That's their choice. Just because you've had something in the past doesn't mean your entitled to keep in, especially in a failing economy.
And as far as the new hires who will get lower wages and won't get free benefits - well I suppose thats unfortunate for them, but if they don't like it, they can go work for somebody else.

 

[Cool-Beans]

I hope I read this wring. Do you realize how much it takes to make it in Ca.

30K is nothing in CA.
Maybe I just read it this wrong. I need coffee

I didn't say it was a great deal of money. I don't think it is a great deal of money anywhere and I know that California has a higher cost of living than most places do.

I just want to know what job the person getting $30K/year does.

Maybe, along with telling me how crazy I am, someone would be able to answer the question.

What position do you think is paying them their $30K/year?