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AlexandNessa

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  • Universal Bashing
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  • Complaints about the elimination of free express

No debates. Just a place to give a smile and a hello if you (like me) feel a little exasperated on this board lately.

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I would like to add complaints over those stupid coupons.
 

Slacking said:
I would like to add complaints over those stupid coupons.

ITA -- I can't believe I forgot that one in the first place!!
 
Agreed, totally undoubtedly tired of it. (Venting post read on if you dare)

Its funny, I never hear anyone bashing Busch Gardens, or Sea World, or even Universal Studios before IOA opened (and I've been visiting this site since it opened in 1997). I truly think these people are afraid that IOA is actually a really good park and Univeral has stepped up its game tremendously and suddenly the precious WDW isn't the only really cool place anymore.

I remember when IOA first opened and another board I visited regarding WDW vs US, you'd think the Devil himself built IOA to curse anyone that likes Mickey...I never saw such scathing reviews from people who never went near the place except maybe driving on I-4 by it.

To add to that is how many people come here bashing US/IOA comparing it to Disney, but rarely if ever do we go to the WDW boards to complain about how much their rides are worse than US/IOA (MIB, Spiderman, Hulk, The Mummy, JPRA, T2:3D are all experiences you just can't match at WDW, in my opinion, but I don't go to their boards bragging about it)

If Disney was the way it was up until about 1995 I would agree that they are on top of their game and doing everything right practically, but we all know it isn't the case. With PR failures such as Test Track, Mission:Space, Journey into YOUR Imagination, removal of rides like 20,000 Leagues and the Skyride with no replacement, not to mention the downturn in food, bathrooms and benefits to name a few. I don't hate Disney at all, I go there 2-3 times a year in fact and I am so glad they are finally turning their ways around.

Competition is a GOOD thing, and when one company starts to get lazy, money hungry and cuts back on quality in most ways, what is so wrong about another company coming in to mix things up and get the first company back on its feet?

IMHO, Disney fans should hope Universal does great with all walks of life so that Disney knows they need to keep up the quality, new attractions for all ages and coming up with creative new ideas.

I don't think its far fetched to think that without Universal being in Orlando, Disney might not be running 4 theme parks right now, they might have only 2 or 3.
 
ChrisFL said:
Its funny, I never hear anyone bashing Busch Gardens, or Sea World, or even Universal Studios before IOA opened (and I've been visiting this site since it opened in 1997). I truly think these people are afraid that IOA is actually a really good park and Univeral has stepped up its game tremendously and suddenly the precious WDW isn't the only really cool place anymore.

To add to that is how many people come here bashing US/IOA comparing it to Disney, but rarely if ever do we go to the WDW boards to complain about how much their rides are worse than US/IOA (MIB, Spiderman, Hulk, The Mummy, JPRA, T2:3D are all experiences you just can't match at WDW, in my opinion, but I don't go to their boards bragging about it)
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Post of the month!!!
 
Yes, I'm tired! So tired that I often vow to just stop reading or posting.

I miss our little board where we could talk about Universal. We had time to respond to posts and help newbies plan their trips. How many of us go onto the Disney Attraction boards and bash Disney?

I think what most of the recent posters forget is that many of us also have annual passes for Disney and/or go there often also. It isn't an either/or thing for us. We don't feel disloyal if we venture onto Disney property. If I want to talk Disney, I do it on the Disney forums of which there are many of them here. Our little forum is just a small afterthought on the board and I don't understand why we can't enjoy talking about Universal and IoA in peace? Why must we defend our love of Universal on this forum? There are almost 30 forums here devoted to Disney and 3 devoted to Universal. What's even sadder is the castmember only forum only allows Disney castmembers. Universal team members aren't allowed. I find this strange because team members and castmembers have lots of things in common and I can guarantee you that there is no animosity between Disney CMs and Universal TMs. In fact many work both places. It sometimes feels like the Universal boards are indeed the red-headed stepchild.
 
I also forgot to mention that whenever any news or rumors about Universal comes out that may not be 100% positive, it gets posted on the DISNEY Rumors and News section, so they can talk about it and most of the time it's negative.

I questioned this and got no seriously reply as to why it's even being posted there in the first place.

If I ever posted anything bad in the press about Disney on this board, there'd be outrage I bet.
 
Thanks for commiserating! Mike and I are off to the Hershey Lodge tomorrow morning and a 3-day trip to Hershey Park for Storm Runner and the Reese's Extreme Cup Challenge. See you back on the boards on Monday; keep them safe and happy while I'm gone! :)
 
Here is another :thumbsup2 from us, we visit from England every year.

There is no competitive thing, we love Universal AND Disney.
However, there are too many who have a 'disney obsession'.

Universal is great , we have APs and we will always support it.
 
AlexandNessa said:
Thanks for commiserating! Mike and I are off to the Hershey Lodge tomorrow morning and a 3-day trip to Hershey Park for Storm Runner and the Reese's Extreme Cup Challenge. See you back on the boards on Monday; keep them safe and happy while I'm gone! :)


Have Fun!!!

Hershey is my absolute favorite park! Don't forget the renovated chocolate "tour" too! Both Storm Runner and Resse's look like a blast, can't wait until later this summer when I get to return!
 
We love Universal!! :teeth: In fact I had a job getting my husband to Disney last time!
 
phamton said:
It sometimes feels like the Universal boards are indeed the red-headed stepchild.

I know what you mean! Universal, even.

I hate how instead of saying Orlando people say Disney. So I'll have gone to Universal and people will ask me "How was Disney?" and beforehand "Have fun at Disney!" then recently someone said it and I snapped and I was like "I F#$*ING WENT TO UNIVERSAL."

I'm tired of being the Pepsi in this Coca-Cola World. lol..
 
nerdboyrockstar said:
I know what you mean! Universal, even.

I hate how instead of saying Orlando people say Disney. So I'll have gone to Universal and people will ask me "How was Disney?" and beforehand "Have fun at Disney!" then recently someone said it and I snapped and I was like "I F#$*ING WENT TO UNIVERSAL."

I agree ;)
 
Another one here who loves Universal. We are also from the UK and, like Johnny, we love Universal, IOA and WDW. However, to us, they are completely different.

We went to Orlando for just 1 week last year. Out of the week, we spent 2 days at WDW and 4 days at Universal/IOA. I could easily visit Orlando without 'doing' Disney but wouldn't dream of missing out my favourite park, IOA :thumbsup2

I frequent another board (for UK Disney/Universal/Orlando visitors) and I have been caught up recently in several US-bashing posts. I wish people would just accept that everyone has different likes and dislikes. If you don't like it, don't go - just stop trying to persuade everyone else how terrible it is.

I think half the time if these Universal bashers posted and people didn't respond, they would get fed up but I know how difficult it is to resist saying your piece. I do wish this board could get back to nice US/IOA discussions again.

The place is great and we love it - 'nuff said :goodvibes
 
phamton said:
Yes, I'm tired! So tired that I often vow to just stop reading or postiing...

Agruing with Earheads is like mud wrestling a pig. After a while you realize that the pig really likes it.
I'm with Damo. I like all theme/amusement parks. There isn't too many of us that remember pre-Mouse Florida and how much fun it was to go to BGT, Cypress Gardens, Silver Springs, Weeki Wachi or even Webb City.
Disney is now more like a cult and there are those that would gladly drink their Kool Aid. I loved Disney for many years but became increasingly annoyed with the congestion and waiting in lines. Universal had the answer with hotel express and I'm all about preferential treatment when it comes to the queuing theory.
I still think the Dis has the best forum for on-site hotels. I think I'll hang there and try to stay out of the WDW vs. USO struggle. It's sad though because I would never consider going to the Disney forums and bashing any of the things that I feel are substandard or outdated but those that come here and bash USO are able to drive us away from our favorite site and the friends that we have made.
 
I think what people tend to forget is these amusement parks are just like any other business. They change prices, policies and benefits on a regular basis. Nobody forces you to be a patron when there is something you dislike. We all have choices. For the majority, when they become uninterested or dislike a business (for whatever reason), they just decide to never return and leave it alone. It's not for them. Then, there are those who seem to hold a grudge. Sort of like when you are in 2nd grade and "Jenny" invited all the girls to her birthday party but you and instead of just saying "There are other things I can do on that day", you sulk and spend the rest of your life bad mouthing Jenny.

Life has choices. If you don't like the prices, policy changes or perks of an amusement park, you either don't go or deal with the changes and don't allow it to ruin your vacation. As with the Express pass, I get a bit tired of hearing people fuming mad over the company's decision to start charging. Nobody forces you to go to Universal. If you don't go, then just be happy where you do go. If you decide to pull out the wallet to pay for the Express pass or pay the price of the hotel to get the Express, don't spend the entire vacation complaining about how you were ripped off. If you are angry about the cost and decide not to purchase it or decide not to spend the money for onsite hotel and choose to stand in the standby line, don't spend your entire vacation fuming mad and complaining when you spend an hour in line and see the same people pass you multiple times through the Express line. I think everyone's goal is to maximize the enjoyment of their own vacation. Everyone knows what it will take to accomplish this. The worst thing you can do is create a situation for yourself that you know will ruin the vacation. The #1 mistake is to compare one amusement park with another. It's like going to McDonald's and expecting it to be like Chic-Fil-A. It's the same kind of restaurant, but while they both serve similar sandwiches (chicken), they both have other different options and they don't give you the same flavor or amounts. If you don't like McDonald's, don't go there, but at the same time, don't try to cut the company down by saying the place is filthy, I got shortchanged, they are too expensive, the people in the drive thru got served faster than those inside in line, etc. JUst don't go and enjoy where you do go.

The other thing I don't understand is when a family, who has never been to an amusement park, goes for the first time and decides to treat it like a full blown vacation like the places they are used to. Have they never heard of "sampling"? Even when you go to an ice cream place, you get a sample of an ice cream you have never eaten before you spend $3 on a whole scoop. WHy would you make reservations and plan on spending 4-5 days at a place when you never know what you are gonna get? Seems like a complete waste of money to me. Our first time to Universal, we spent 1 day. We found that we liked it, but if we had not, it was only 1 day and we would know better next time. The following trip, we spent 2 days and went to IOA also. The vacation after that was 3 days and now we are about to spend 5 days on the upcoming one. There is no way I would sink thousands of dollars into an experience that might not be our cup of tea and I certainly don't plan to sit in a hotel room for days and days. The infamous words of the father from Everybody Hates Chris.... "I could sit at home for free".

I happen to like all amusement parks as long as they are safe. I do have my favorites, but they all fulfill my enjoyment needs in different ways (rides, food, prices, location, etc). I've never found the need to become fuming angry because one did not have what another did. SOme people need to lighten up.
 
Thank you for this thread, AlexandNessa! I will be back to my happy place in just 3 weeks. I will have 4 newbies and 3 novices in tow. After reading the threads on these boards lately I was getting a little worried about what we would find when we got there.

Some of you know that I have been to Universal exclusively on my last dozen or so trips to Orlando. I have only been to WDW 2 days in my life. Once in 1978 and again in 1985 or so. As it turns out, I will be spending some time over at 'the other place" on my upcoming trip. So, I have always wanted to post threads such as these...


Convince me why I should go to WDW?

Will I be disappointed in WDW?

I am an expert in all things Universall, but know nothing about Disney...

Does Disney ever offer FOTL (fill in your own benefit) like Disney?


Is half a day enough to visit all four Disney parks?

DH wants to spend a day of our Universal vacation at (gasp!) WDW!

Now that I have been to all of the Universal on-sites, will I be disappointed in a WDW value?
 


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