Cheap question for Child's Ticket

[antkim]

O.K. I just need to respond. People here are talking about "morals". I don't think it is fair to question someone's morals on this issue. I mean saying you are teaching a 3 year old to lie because you do not buy him/her a pass is a bit harsh, don't you think? I don't know about any of you but when my ds was 3 I had a pass for him but he would NEVER have known it....his hands never touched that pass for obvious reasons. So if I didn't have the pass for him he would never have known it either! I have another question. I have seen people post here time and time again about how their kids wore "high shoes" so that they meet the height requirement. Disney CLEARLY states the hight requirements just like the pass requirements however no one questions morals on that issue. What happens if a child got hurt on a ride that he/she should not have been on but was allowed on because they "cheated" by wearing high shoes? Putting ones child in a potential harmful situation seems a bit more important than the pass issue but again no one ever questions this. How come?
Personally, it doesn't matter what XYZ does...it's their life, their decisions...period. I would never pass judgement on someone just because I didn't agree with them.

JMO...not that it means much! LOL

Kim

 

[wendypooh]

Dolphindan - you are right, being able to have a rational discussion is a wonderful thing. I am not here to bash anyone. To re-iterate however, I never said YOU didn't have morals or values. I don't agree with what you did, but it's frankly irrelevant wether I do or not. I simply gave my opinion, and I appreciate you not ATTACKING me for it. I also don't agree with your comparison on people bring in the food...... again, that's just my point of view.

The other post made a very good point about someone who is disabled, in my opinion they shouldn't have to pay, or at least not full price. Another one is, a grandmother, who clearly will not ride any rides, who may come with a family to "watch" the kids, while mom and dad do things........ why should she have to pay full price? There are a lot of scenarios out there. I'm sure I will get bashed for some of my views, but hey, I've got thick skin!! On our last trip to disney, our son was 3, and YES, it hurt to buy those tickets, but we did, and I just feel like since that is the rule, it should be followed. Again, just my opinion.


Jennyvelaz ~~ WOW!! First of all, the codes posted here, are for EVERYONE, they are publicly posted on a number of other sites, And they are usually released BY disney........ so NO no one is sneaky or stealing! We are all here to learn of ways to save money, and get tips on our trips. NO ONE here would ever, at least I don't think encourage stealing, lying, etc... etc.... As for people who add another person to thier room...... and I assume you mean at the universal hotels, since the disney hotels don't offer any type of "benefit" of staying onsite such as fotl........ those people either they have to pay for the extra person, or they are actually staying.......... which the resort checks at check in time. IF someone is cheating, or lying, then that is what they are doing, and I'm opposed to it. BASH me or anyone else who has that opinion. BUT, you are the one who came here, and asked your question. You are the one who is "wanting" to cheat, or lie. Be prepared for every response when you ask a question....... and if you don't like the answer, oh well.

NOR am I passing Judgement on anyone.......... do what you want, I don't really care. But I can give my opinion......... take it or leave it.

 

[cheyita]

Just go to the DVC board and ask about having more people stay in a room than occupancy allows. There are plenty who "cheat" and there is the mob ready to crucify them.

Jennyvalez - I hope you do what you feel is right and appropriate. In any case - maybe I'll see you and your twins around BCV!

 

[Jennyvelaz]

No I am not "wanting to cheat or lie" There is a fine line and like the food there are different rules. I didn't know my mother was such a cheat and liar, nor did I think that I was too.

 

[wendypooh]

After going through all this ticket fiasco, I was going to purchase PAP for myself and two 3yr olds. (dh already has one). We will be going down to at least three times this year so the cost will pay off. My question is, am I too cheap to see if my kids can "get by" for another trip? How strict are they? My twins are small for there age and I also remember my mom saying I was twelve for the movies until I actually drove myself and claimed independency! (Ha!Ha! I must get this from her!) Our next trip will be in May so maybe I could by their tickets then? Anybody go through this?

Wanting to "get by" I assume means that you are wanting to NOT pay for them? If that is what you meant, then in my opinion that is wanting to cheat...... lie, etc. Again, I don't care what you do............ I'm not judging you......... but you did ask the question, and you have to expect all sorts of answers. I don't agree with "cheating" and frankly, if you are not going to pay for your kids, when disneys rules clearly state the 3 and over must pay, then you are cheating. Again, do what you want.............. but I wouldn't take the chance. I hope you enjoy your trip ~ I know we will!!!

 

[dolphindan1]

its definately a hot topic..While we are on a hot topic....Who takes there kids out of school to go to Disney....LOL.....Who re uses refillable mugs on there next trip?....LOL....The one thing that I think is great about this board is that there are so many people you are surely gonna get respones...som you agree with and some you dont but you have lots of opinions to help you make your decision....I think its great....No harm no foul....

 

[wendypooh]

Dan............ you are so right!!! When you are home with a little one, sometimes the "discussions" are just what you need!!!! LOL

As for me, No, I've never taken my kids out of school........ my 2 older boys are in college, and my baby boy just turned 5. We are taking this trip, because it will be our last chance before he starts school.

Also, we stayed at ASM last feb. and bought the mugs, I know you can't use them at other resorts....... but is there some rule that you can't re-use them on your next trip??? For us it's not an option anyway, as we are staying at POFQ, and can't use the mugs there regardless. Besides, I want the mugs for the POFQ, since they are different!!! Just curious if it's posted somewhere by disney that you cannot re-use your mugs?

 

[dolphindan1]

I actually know the feeling....My wife works a lot of nights and weekends so I was home alot with my boys...it can be a challenge and I appreciate and admire all full time moms...thats the toughest job around....

We do take our kids out of school....well its just the oldest right now but he knows as lond as he makes good grades we will continue to do it...He has been a A honor roll since 1st grade....We always inform the teacher well in advance and not on has yet to discourage it....and only this year was he given make up tests which he aced plus he plays football, basketball and baseball....I know that is a sensitive subject to some people also but to each is own....I dont like being told what I can and cant do with my own children but that hasnt been an issue yet...

As far as the mugs go I have always heard that you have to purchase new ones each trip....Now how true it is I dont know....We stayed at the Sports 2 years ago and had dinner our first night at music because it was less crowded and bought the Music mugs...this year we didnt use any mugs as we only ate at the resort once or twice and that was at the Movies but we brought our music mugs and my wife did actually use them one mornig to get her some hot chocolate....So I dont know anything definate to that question...I saw people at the parks with the mugs and was wondering can you use them at the parks???...

PS ...Since I am A Miami Dolphins fan I wanna say thank you for Nick Saban....I hope he works out for us....

 

[MommytoPayton&Max]

My two cents now.

If you don't have a ticket for a child, can the child go on a ride if the other riders in the party have a Fastpass? We took our DD3 this past May. She was only 6 weeks past her third birthday. We bought her a ticket and I am so so happy we did. We used the Fastpass a ton and I was under the impression we could only do so with her ticket. Otherwise, my DH or I would have had to have wait outside the attraction - at least as we thought. This is an advantage to having a ticket depending on the exact rules. (Also, my DH thought it was a riot to ride ROR in MGM 3 times in a row - but I am sidetracking!)

However, I have no opinion either way on what is best for you. Only you know what you can accept for yourself. Those who judge will be judged ...I just cannot imagine that there is so much perfection out there.

This whole discussion raises a thought with me though............would you go more often if kids 5 and under could get in free? Perhaps Disney has considered this and thought it a useless marketing avenue. Perhaps it could make the difference for a family who might go more often but otherwise couldn't afford tickets for more than one child on a frequent basis. Just a thought.

Also on this note, my DD will be 4 in mid-March. Since we are going 4 weeks shy of her 4th birthday, she is still 3. I enrolled her in the Alice in Wonderland Tea Party. She is an "advanced" 3 yr old in terms of social skills and I have no qualms about doing this. Technically, I am breaking the rules since the kids have to be at least 4. I would not deny her this great opportunity because of a few weeks. Chalk me up with the rule breakers.

 

[meandtheguys2]

I thought by the amount of budgeting done on these boards that someone had a cheap way for two 3 year olds. Shame on those so judgemental! The coupon sharing and code sharing by those I am grateful for, not accusing them of thievery! No one mentioned sneakery!
Bitter shame to all those who put the extra person in the hotel rooms-Those criminals! are they banned,too?

Jenny, I don't know what you wanted people to say in response to your question. Go ahead and lie and steal? If you are going to ask a question that has moral implications those are going to be brought up.

We took trips before each of ours turned 3 and after that bought tickets. We just figured that was a part of the budget.

As far as all of the other "crimes" you mentioned, it doesn't make a wrong right just because someone else is doing wrong. I can't justify robbing a bank because some people speed.

I do hope you have a good trip. Esp. if you run into Cheyita!

 

[sters]

If the child turns 3 DURING the trip, they will still be considered by Disney as being 2. Personally, I think the pricing should be by height and not age. This is a hot issue, obviously, the same as re-using resort mugs.

 

[cheyita]

I do hope you have a good trip. Esp. if you run into Cheyita!

Hi Michelle!

Almost time!

 

[meandtheguys2]

Hi Michelle!

Almost time!

Hey! Hope you all have awesome weather! :jumping4: We are so excited that it is riiculous. Just changed our plans to include flying!

 

[Brian Noble]

I mean saying you are teaching a 3 year old to lie because you do not buy him/her a pass is a bit harsh, don't you think?

That's not what I said. What I said was: if I expect them to act as though lying is "wrong", it's probably counterproductive to show them examples where I think lying is okay. I don't even expect everyone to agree with me that stretching the truth for financial gain is "wrong"---many people think it is perfectly fine, and my disagreement with them isn't giong to get them to change their minds.

On the other hand, saying "Now, Timmy, if the Nice Man asks how old you are, be sure to hold up two fingres, okay?" does teach Timmy to lie, rather directly, and while I am in no way suggesting any poster here has said this, I've seen it outside the gates of amusement parks more than once.

I've also found that, depending on your circumstances, some parks will give you some wiggle room if you ask. My son turned three the in October of the same year my home park moved the "free" age from "three and under" to "under three". Since I wasn't paying close attention, I didn't buy him a season pass certificate, thinking he wouldn't need it that year, and I noticed only when I read the certificates, after the pre-season sale prices had expired. When I called the park to ask if I could get the discounted price, the ticket agent asked her manager, who asked *his* manager, who said "Oh, don't worry about it---it's only a few weeks at the end of the season."

 

[tjmw2727]

To the OP I am not sure exactly what your question is so I will share our experience with my 3yo nephew just last week.

My nephew is a tiny 3yo and my sil did buy him a pass, we also had my neice who is 1 and my dd 8 and my dd 10. FTR I did buy my 10yo an adult pass even though she looks about 8. I am very glad my sil purchased the pass as he was engaged by many CM's while sitting in the stroller at the turnstyles. There is no way he would have been able to be convinced to say he was 2 as he is very proud of his age, honestly I can't imagine my sil even trying!! I don't know for sure if the CM's noticed my sil using his pass though so you probably could pass off a 3yo for 2 at the turnstyle.

The other issue is FP - if the rest of the party has valid fp's then a child 2 and under won't need one to ride. The issue is once your walking through the queue and talking with the CM's, you need to show the FP once to get into the line and then again close to boarding. It will be more difficult to slide an older child by because you would have to mention each and every time - "he/she is two and dosen't have a pass, therefore dosen't need the FP". I can imagine the more times this is done the more obvious it will become to the child and they may protest.

Would I purchase a ticket for a 3yo - yes I have always purchaed the proper pass for my children. Is it my business if someone does not, maybe and maybe not but I do feel the "right" to comment as you (the OP) posed the question.

I don't see this as a cost saving measure like using public discount codes or AAA discounts or even vouchers.

TJ

 

[Tigger&Belle]

Everyone has to do what they are comfortable with and I'm sure that if we were all honest that there would be things that all of us have done that someone else could disagree with in one way or another. We all draw the line in different places, which in general I don't have a problem with. I only have a problem when it directly affects me in a dangerous way. IE, a speeder who is weaving in and out of traffic, which endangers me. Or those who roll through a stop light, not wanting to stop, which in turn makes me brake sharply to avoid an accident. Things like that become my problem for me, for obvious reasons.

As far as getting your 3yo into WDW without paying, having an extra person in a hotel room, etc, people need to make their own decisions. Personally I don't think that I would do it, and, when faced with that decision in the past, I have bought the pass and/or reserved the room.

What I don't understand is how pulling my 11yo out of school for a couple days is in the same category. I'm being honest with his teachers (or should I say I will be honest when I let the rest of them know), they will either excuse the absence or not, and we will deal with the results. Not the same as sneaking a person into a hotel room.

T&B

 

[DutchsMommy]

I am expecting an interested time myself when we go - DS will be turning 3 while at WDW. We are staying until Sat Feb 12th (his b'day) and then going on the Wonder on the 13th. So, good timing I thought to myself - doesn't have to pay at WDW, yet old enough for the kids club on the Wonder!! We have been talking about going to Mickey Mouse's house for his b'day for a LONG time, so it should be interesting to see how he responses when the CMs ask him how old he is! On top of that, he is quite tall and could easily pass as a 3 or 4 yo.....so, I think I'll bring his birth cert. just in case.

As far as this issue goes, I am a bit of a rule follower - I just get too nervous about "cheating" (I guess you could call it) and would be worried that someone was going to "card" my son, demand his ID etc etc......you can imagine I was NOT very good at buying liquor when I was underage - LOL!!

My opinion is that in general rules are there to be followed and I follow them. I think in general if people followed rules we would all get along better - no smoking outside the designated areas, no roller-wheel suitcases in the park for me to trip over, no speeding (OK, well maybe no more than 10 over - I am a cheater in this category! )

I doubtt the OPs ultimate decision will have a long-lasting psychological impact on her kids and the motto "to each his own" is one I choose to live by. You need to be comfortable with your own lifestyle

 

[WDSearcher]

I know I am frowned upon by what I did but like I said I have no guilt by it....

I think there IS guilt there somewhere, but not enough to really make it worthwhile.

At any rate, you're going to do what you want anyway, and the world will not suffer irrepairable harm. Just remember to give your kids get a "get out of jail free card" the first time you catch them lying to you about something. That's only fair.

 

[beattyfamily]

I can't believe we have another one of these "what should I do?" threads about a moral issue and then when the OP (and others who also do what the OP is suggesting) get responses they don't like, they start with the insults like "Moral Police" "Judgemental" "Holier than thou".

Give me a break. It's stealing, lying and cheating Disney. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of Disney's policy...Disney has decide it. That a 3 year old can enjoy quite a bit of WDW so they should be charged. Saying that they can't enjoy everything isn't a valid reason for sneaking them in. What about a pregnant woman, a handicapped person in a wheelchair?? Should they sneak in?

If you can't afford to buy your 3 year old a ticket then don't go, IMHO. What if you have older children, they will certain know what's going on. They are smarter than we think.

Saying "do what's right for you" cracks me up. Do you say that to someone doing something else wrong like speeding or driving drunk or taking a sweater from Walmart?

If you don't like the negative responses then please don't post questions like this. It's going to get negative responses.

I chose to go to WDW 2 weeks after my tiny DD turned 3. I bought her a ticket and never considered sneaking her in. How would explain not having a ticket for her to my 6 year old? Or the CM who strikes up a conversation with my proud 3 year old? It's just not worth it to me and my family. We budget it in or we just don't go.

 

[antkim]

"Saying "do what's right for you" cracks me up. Do you say that to someone doing something else wrong like speeding or driving drunk or taking a sweater from Walmart?"




Now THAT crack me up!! Comparing drunk driving to this is a bit extreme, don't you think? Come on!

I'm really not here to debate this issue...I just wonder how people come off telling others they are morally wrong. I bought my 3 year old a ticket, I will buy my youngest ds a ticket when he turns 3...that's just me. However, I did it for the reason that others have stated....if a CM asked my ds how old he was I would not want my son to have to lie...not because I thought it was morally wrong. Again JMO...I'm really not here to argue but sometimes certain topics just get my interest!

Kim