Cheap question for Child's Ticket

[eeyore0062]

"This same co-worker goes to google.com and looks for conventions/gatherings at Disney that would be going on during her stay and books under the convention for really cheap rates. Is it classless - oh yeah!! Is it tacky - no doubt!!! But I must admitt she's gotten some great stays and rates! She just returned (she went the week before Christmas) telling me about a family gathering on a Disney Cruise!!! "


This is TOO funny! No wonder there are folks who go to Will Call who can't tell you what company they work for!......HMMMMMMMM

 

[J&Adad]

if you can get away with it then go for it its the american way

 

[SnoWhiteRabbit]

Ok...So why is it ok here and not at something else...If I walk up to the turnstile with wife and 2 childern...I have 3 tickets not 4 they let us all in no questions asked is that not the same thing as quoted...I believe it is...Does money make it different..No it doesnt....So by what you say since they ley me do I did not break the rules right?..Just trying to understand your reasoning....

No, I don't think it's the same. If you explictedly state that your child is 3 and they choose not to charge you, then you get lucky and you are not breaking any rules, because they have said, ok, go ahead. It's liek at a restaurant, it's not stealing if they comp you for a meal.

If you walk by without saying anything, they are assuming that your child is under 3 and are respecting you enough not to stop and question you -- they are not assuming you did not pay for a ticket that you should have. Because someone is giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you will be honest, does not mean they are giving you permission to not pay.

We have roadside stands that sell flowers and vegetables. You are expected to put your money in the can, and take only what you pay for. Of course it is very easy to walk up, take something without paying, and leave -- perhaps flowers since they are only going to die in a few days anyway so they aren't really worth the money, and I have bought several things from this stand during the year....) and leave. Has the stand owner given me permission to do this because he hasn't stopped me? I don't think so. The sign giving the price of the flowers and the can for the money tell me what the right thing to do is. If I fdon't thinkt he flowers are worth it, I don't take them.

Now, if the stand owner is standing there and I mention that I am only going to buy the apples, but not the flowers since they are going to die ina few days, and he says, pay for the apples, and take the flowers. Enjoy and have a magical day -- then I would think that's ok and different from the above scenario.

And, morality aside, the more times people take the flowers from the farmer without paying, the higher the apples and flowers are going to cost down the road.

 

[SnoWhiteRabbit]

if you can get away with it then go for it its the american way

I hope not.

 

[eeyore0062]

if you can get away with it then go for it its the american way

oh yeah!!!!

 

[Tigger&Belle]

TSo if your reunion or wedding spots a very petite unknown Italian lady in the crowd thats my Disney obsessed co-worker (and yeah she is active on this board)

If you read this - sorry I called you classless and tacky - I still love ya!!!

C'mon, tell us her user name!!! Just kidding, I really don't want you in that much trouble with her.

T&B

 

[Jennyvelaz]

No, I don't think it's the same. If you explictedly state that your child is 3 and they choose not to charge you, then you get lucky and you are not breaking any rules, because they have said, ok, go ahead. It's liek at a restaurant, it's not stealing if they comp you for a meal.

If you walk by without saying anything, they are assuming that your child is under 3 and are respecting you enough not to stop and question you -- they are not assuming you did not pay for a ticket that you should have. Because someone is giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you will be honest, does not mean they are giving you permission to not pay.

We have roadside stands that sell flowers and vegetables. You are expected to put your money in the can, and take only what you pay for. Of course it is very easy to walk up, take something without paying, and leave -- perhaps flowers since they are only going to die in a few days anyway so they aren't really worth the money, and I have bought several things from this stand during the year....) and leave. Has the stand owner given me permission to do this because he hasn't stopped me? I don't think so. The sign giving the price of the flowers and the can for the money tell me what the right thing to do is. If I fdon't thinkt he flowers are worth it, I don't take them.

Now, if the stand owner is standing there and I mention that I am only going to buy the apples, but not the flowers since they are going to die ina few days, and he says, pay for the apples, and take the flowers. Enjoy and have a magical day -- then I would think that's ok and different from the above scenario.

And, morality aside, the more times people take the flowers from the farmer without paying, the higher the apples and flowers are going to cost down the road.

That is a beautiful way to change the scenario!

 

[MomofKatie]

This is a thought-provoking thread, and I am enjoying reading it. Especially since lots of different viewpionts are being expressed, with very little hostility. I like to see mature discussions on the boards.

Now for my .02... My DDs first trip was when she was 3. I never even thought about not paying for her. Not because of any higher moral code or anything, but just because she was 3, and the sign said thet she had to have a ticket. So I bought her one.

I guess I never even gave a thought about what would happen if I tried to pass her off as 2...probably, I could have done it with no questions asked. But I didn't question it, because I have always been a "the sign saysto, so do it" type. I don't like bargaining at the car dealership or the furniture store, I never try to get a discount at the mall if I see a stained blouse (I just don't buy it), etc.

So, I guess I am just too uncomfortable to try to "get away" with something!

 

[SnoWhiteRabbit]

That is a beautiful way to change the scenario!

I'm not exactly sure what you mean.

 

[cheyita]

I realize this is the secondary topic of this thread, but here goes...

I thought DVC has recently changed its policy for 1BR rooms for the occupancy upping it from four guests to five.

Has the fire code suddenly changed?

 

[marciemi]

I, too, can't accept the fire code concepts. I've stayed in many smaller rooms that allowed 5 than larger rooms that didn't. As I said earlier, my 3 kids total weigh less than many adults, etc. It just seems arbitrary. We've stayed at many suites hotels (Homewood and Embassy come to mind) that allow you to have 5 in a room with 2 double beds, but absolutely not in a room with a king bed and a queen pullout. That makes no sense to me. The rooms are the same size. Conceivably I could fit 3 kids on a king better than a double, etc. Maybe because the bed is taking up too much space, there's less room for more people??

MomofKatie - I guess I felt that way to an extent too. Only exception (and here we're back on the 5 in a room thread) was when we went 2 months after my youngest turned 3. We had stayed in the All Stars both times before, the kids wanted to stay there again, and we (monetarily) wanted to stay there. It didn't make sense to me that if my son (who did sleep in the portacrib while we were there) were 2 months younger we could stay there, but not anymore. He'd grown, what, a quarter inch since then? So we booked the hotel separately online and just entered 2 adults, 2 kids, 1 under 3. However, to me that wasn't cheating them, but not paying for him at the parks would have been. We would have preferred to buy length of stay passes (ultimate park hoppers), but couldn't then without getting his free (lying, stealing, whatever you want to call it). So we bought regular hopper plusses so he could have his ticket and I could pay Disney their $200!

WDSearcher - thanks for the food for thought. I guess I'm not worried about hurricanes (it's January!) and I just don't feel that if there's a huge fire that the firefighters are realistically walking around with a clipboard through the flames inventorying all the rooms. I'm thinking they're rushing in, looking for bodies, or searching rooms with parents outside screaming hysterically that their son is still in the room. But I do appreciate your possibilities. My fear is what if I tell them when I check in (as most people have said and I've read on other threads, they probably don't care if it's 3 kids) and they say no - absolutely not, he can't sleep in there. Then what do I do? I guess, go back to telling them he's in the other room even though he's not but then I'm back to where I started.

Thanks again for all replies - I'm enjoying this thread too!

 

[charabby]

However, I did it for the reason that others have stated....if a CM asked my ds how old he was I would not want my son to have to lie...not because I thought it was morally wrong.
Kim

I don't understand this - if you don't think it's wrong then why don't you do it? Obviously, you do know it's wrong - isn't that why you don't want your ds involved?

 

[Chuck S]

You know, most folks that start these thread use the justification that "Hey, the kid is 3, (s)he can't ride much anyway. So what about folks that are restricted to wheelchairs and can not transfer for rides...they can't do a lot of the rides, either. Maybe Disney should let them in for free. Or how about people with other medical conditions, like bad backs, motion sickness, heart conditions, should they get in for free...after all, there are some ride restrictions on them for safety, just like the 3 year old.

 

[madscrapper]

Why do people post questions that they probably already know the answer to? If the OP is asking if she can pass off her kids as younger that 3, she probably already has made up her mind...but maybe not her conscience.

The same with asking if 5 people can sleep in a room for 4. Why ask?

Do they really care and will they be influenced by what is said. Or are they just trying to make themselves feel better?

I, like many here, have spent thousands and thousands at Disney. I have also not paid for my youngest DD just after her 3rd birthday (when the rest of us had AP), I have brought food in, more than a granola bar and juice box, and, althought it never was an issue, wouldn't think twice about having a 5th in a room.

I have never felt the need to ask for anyone's opinion, approval or flames. Why? Because I already knew deep down what I would do.

Does this make me a bad person? Maybe. Do I feel guilty? Not a chance because I have spent more than a what I think is a fair price to pay at WDW for food, parking, souvenirs, a $2.50 bottle of water!!!! I have also paid for Character meals when my one of my kids ate NOTHING - wouldn't even pick out anything from the buffet. Did I get a credit - no. OK, is that fair? I don't know but it was clear she had no food on her plate.

It's not about not being able to afford a ticket, a meal or a souvenir. While I love WDW, I also feel like their prices are too high for most everything and I will try to shave my budget when I can. And yes, I consider it shaving, not stealing.

Jeannine

 

[Chuck S]

Boy, I wish I could shave a few $$$ of my vacations, too. Maybe I'll just pocket one of those over priced do-dads they sell at the parks...after all, I spend a lot of money going to Disney twice a year, and I feel like their prices are too high on everything. I mean, it's not about being unable to afford the do-dad, I'm not stealing, just shaving off a little here and there.

 

[Tracie]

Why Why Why????? Do people ask these kinds of questions??? If you are going to try to "get by" one more trip then ask the real question: Who out there has passed their 3 year olds as 2 year olds and did it work?, were you or your child questioned? Or has anyone put 5 in a room and got by? Or Do you think I will make it into the park with a Igloo rolling cooler with lunch and dinner for a family of 6, and can I use the topping bar and the tables?

Just ask What are the odds that I will get caught?!!!

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

To the OP, I'm really sorry some of these people can be a bit nasty about their responses. Some act as the moral police, like in their lives they never did anything questionable or wrong. Yea right! In response, to your question. Yes, I have not paid for my DS after he turned 3, actually we went twice after he turned 3 and yes, we didn't pay. He is big for his age now and was back then, did anyone question it no! We also have had more adults in our room than allowed and didn't pay the extra money either. Do I feel in the least bit guilty , heck no! Yes, we can afford to pay but we didn't and thats that. You moral police can say what you want, but don't care, I did it and I'd do it again.

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

Boy, I wish I could shave a few $$$ of my vacations, too. Maybe I'll just pocket one of those over priced do-dads they sell at the parks...after all, I spend a lot of money going to Disney twice a year, and I feel like their prices are too high on everything. I mean, it's not about being unable to afford the do-dad, I'm not stealing, just shaving off a little here and there.

Don't bother me, just don't get caught.

 

[antkim]

I don't understand this - if you don't think it's wrong then why don't you do it? Obviously, you do know it's wrong - isn't that why you don't want your ds involved?

Thanks for analyzing my response! Again, I do not think of it as a moral issue.
I guess we all have different morals!

I just wanted to add 1 thing. This is an information/discussion board not a name calling/insulting board. The OP was obviously looking to "discuss" something and hope to get some "views" but I really don't think she thought she would get her morals questioned. I don't think it is fair when people literally get attacked here...to tell someone to "stay home until they can afford to go" or calling someone a liar, cheater is just a bit harsh. We are all good people here, that is obvious. Let's face it...I don't think many murders, bank robbers or con men are "disney geeks" like us!!

So let's all and be happy that we get to go to WDW in the first place!! LOL

Kim

 

[pirateofthecarolinas]

My son was 2 1/2 on our Dec. trip. The CMs repeatedly asked me for his ticket. I know they didn't believe me when I said that he was only 2 because they laughed at me and said, "ohhhhhhhhh, okay." He is tall and husky for his age. He looks 4. We started just letting my husband stroll him in because he is very tall. My husband would joke with the CMs and ask if they wanted to see DSs driver's license.

I will buy him a ticket when he is 3 because that is the requirement.