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staley7580
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Now THAT would be fun to watch!!
You would SO HATE me! I drop the F-bomb ALOT!
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OMG....well maybe you should sharpen your knives or something while you are out there...then they will see you have weaponsall kidding aside that is terrible
I so should!! It was.. But it was years ago. I just felt bad for that poor baby. Later gator!
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I don't care about the word but uhhhh...you don't need to scream it till the veins in your neck pop...
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Is no one else popping on tonight? BOOO!!!! What a bummer!
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Hi Guys! And so the saga continues.....
Proctor mom filed papers with the court stating that my sister was incapable of caring for her son. Yes, we have found out she is a Proctor Mom and not a Foster Mom, since he is in voluntary placement. Not much difference, except she gets paid way more to be a proctor mom and has a different legal status, ie she profits from having him, whereas a foster mom only receives compensation to help pay for expenses.
Anyway, she said some absolutely horrible lies about my sister...starves him when he visits, doesn't give him medication, etc... They are all absolute lies. Proctor mom got the court to give her 30 day temporary custody based on these lies.
I have now hired her an attorney. They are filing papers today with the court asking the judge to invalidate the custody order, based on the fact that she lied about #1 my sister's competence, #2 she said she needed the emergency order because my sister was enroute from Florida on Friday and couldn't be served papers (yes, this is a good technicality. My sister's plane landed at 10:20am, giving her plenty of time to be summoned to court. Proctor mom had her cell phone number and itinerary. Attorney thinks judge will be mad that proctor mom "lied" about natural mom being available). Attached to those papers are email copies from state case workers, etc. showing she is a caring mother and they consider her competent. We should hear something from the court by Thursday.
The attorney said we do not dispute anything she said...judges don't want to see arguing back and forth. Instead we show proof that she is a competent mother, ie letter from me, emails & case report copies that my sister has from years past. We are not to say anything negative about proctor mom (yes, we are both gritting our teeth)!!
My sister just left the attorney's office. He instructed her to call the proctor mom on both her home and cell phone, her fiance's cell phone and her mother's cell (basically every number we have access to contact her) and let her know that she wanted to visit Tyler. Then she is to drive straight to the proctor mom's home, ring the doorbell, if she answer's then she is to ask to see her son and let proctor mom know that she would like to take him to my house for a visit for a couple of days. Naturally they expect the proctor mom to either ignore her calls or to say no. This is exactly what the attorney wants her to do...prove to the judge that she is trying to cut off contact with his natural family. So I am now waiting to hear back from my sister in the next few minutes regarding this meeting. The attorney told her to keep a level head, don't discuss anything, just ask for her son. I have a feeling if she is denied then I am going to have an even more emotional basketcase of a sister on my hands this afternoon. But I guess we just have to keep cool heads thru all of this.
The attorney's and caseworker's have said they do not believe that a judge would ever refuse a competent natural parent custody of their child. As a matter of fact even the state caseworker said that she has seen some "horrible" parents get their child back because the law instructs the judges to give the natural parents with even minimal parenting skills their children back. The big problem in this case is they may try to drag it out until his 18th birthday, at which time I'm sure both parties will seek guardianship of him and my sister may have less rights at that time.
Proctor mom filed papers with the court stating that my sister was incapable of caring for her son. Yes, we have found out she is a Proctor Mom and not a Foster Mom, since he is in voluntary placement. Not much difference, except she gets paid way more to be a proctor mom and has a different legal status, ie she profits from having him, whereas a foster mom only receives compensation to help pay for expenses.
Anyway, she said some absolutely horrible lies about my sister...starves him when he visits, doesn't give him medication, etc... They are all absolute lies. Proctor mom got the court to give her 30 day temporary custody based on these lies.
I have now hired her an attorney. They are filing papers today with the court asking the judge to invalidate the custody order, based on the fact that she lied about #1 my sister's competence, #2 she said she needed the emergency order because my sister was enroute from Florida on Friday and couldn't be served papers (yes, this is a good technicality. My sister's plane landed at 10:20am, giving her plenty of time to be summoned to court. Proctor mom had her cell phone number and itinerary. Attorney thinks judge will be mad that proctor mom "lied" about natural mom being available). Attached to those papers are email copies from state case workers, etc. showing she is a caring mother and they consider her competent. We should hear something from the court by Thursday.
The attorney said we do not dispute anything she said...judges don't want to see arguing back and forth. Instead we show proof that she is a competent mother, ie letter from me, emails & case report copies that my sister has from years past. We are not to say anything negative about proctor mom (yes, we are both gritting our teeth)!!
My sister just left the attorney's office. He instructed her to call the proctor mom on both her home and cell phone, her fiance's cell phone and her mother's cell (basically every number we have access to contact her) and let her know that she wanted to visit Tyler. Then she is to drive straight to the proctor mom's home, ring the doorbell, if she answer's then she is to ask to see her son and let proctor mom know that she would like to take him to my house for a visit for a couple of days. Naturally they expect the proctor mom to either ignore her calls or to say no. This is exactly what the attorney wants her to do...prove to the judge that she is trying to cut off contact with his natural family. So I am now waiting to hear back from my sister in the next few minutes regarding this meeting. The attorney told her to keep a level head, don't discuss anything, just ask for her son. I have a feeling if she is denied then I am going to have an even more emotional basketcase of a sister on my hands this afternoon. But I guess we just have to keep cool heads thru all of this.
The attorney's and caseworker's have said they do not believe that a judge would ever refuse a competent natural parent custody of their child. As a matter of fact even the state caseworker said that she has seen some "horrible" parents get their child back because the law instructs the judges to give the natural parents with even minimal parenting skills their children back. The big problem in this case is they may try to drag it out until his 18th birthday, at which time I'm sure both parties will seek guardianship of him and my sister may have less rights at that time.
Woo Hoo!! Just got a call from my sister. The state caseworker contacted her with some good news. When proctor mom filed the papers on Friday seeking custody, she legally removed herself from being a proctor mom (I bet she has no idea). You can't be a foster or proctor mom and have legal custody at the same time. Normally the state has custody, foster mom takes care of them through power of attorney's for education, medical, etc... However, in my sister's case, she retained custody because it was a voluntary placement, the state acted as an intermediary only.
Not being a proctor mom means she has lost all state services for him. She has no medical, no SSI payments, no state payments, no therapy services, etc... One of her allegations was that she (proctor mom) had lots of services available and that my sister didn't have any.
My sister has spent the last 3 months getting services in place for him in Florida!
She also has him covered on her husband's medical insurance at work, etc...
I know people badmouth state social workers a lot, but I have to say they are really on my sister's side, even though they are supposed to remain neutral. They are trying all they can to help my sister that is within their scope.
The caseworker also told my sister to request Tyler's file/paperwork from her. She will have to call the proctor mom to get permission. If the proctor mom refuses or doesn't call back then that will look really bad also.
We're also not too worried about the proctor mom's attorney. Neither the state or my sister's attorney have heard of this lady. Not to mention that her office seems to be in one of Portland's "red light" districts!
You know, I have always led a pretty boring, normal life. My sister has always been the one with adventure in her life. So I guess why should this be any different! I'm sitting here writing checks for attorney retainer fees and she's out stirring up problems!
Not being a proctor mom means she has lost all state services for him. She has no medical, no SSI payments, no state payments, no therapy services, etc... One of her allegations was that she (proctor mom) had lots of services available and that my sister didn't have any.
My sister has spent the last 3 months getting services in place for him in Florida!
She also has him covered on her husband's medical insurance at work, etc... I know people badmouth state social workers a lot, but I have to say they are really on my sister's side, even though they are supposed to remain neutral. They are trying all they can to help my sister that is within their scope.
The caseworker also told my sister to request Tyler's file/paperwork from her. She will have to call the proctor mom to get permission. If the proctor mom refuses or doesn't call back then that will look really bad also.
We're also not too worried about the proctor mom's attorney. Neither the state or my sister's attorney have heard of this lady. Not to mention that her office seems to be in one of Portland's "red light" districts!
You know, I have always led a pretty boring, normal life. My sister has always been the one with adventure in her life. So I guess why should this be any different! I'm sitting here writing checks for attorney retainer fees and she's out stirring up problems!
The kids are coming to meet me for lunch, so need to get a few things done before then. I'll try to pop back on later with an update....yeah, like you guys have nothing better to do than listen to our soap opera like custody battle!
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WOW Alison!! That is just craziness!!
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Good afternoon, hyenas!
Sunny and quite lovely.
So where am I? Indoors with a screamin' headache.
DH had an OK day yesterday. Got into Denver just fine, but along the way got scheduled for several phone meetings (plus had one while he was waiting to fly out of Sea-Tac.) So wasn't exactly a relaxing day like we'd hoped.
I figured he's sleep well without my snoring and a certain 4yo's feet in his back all night, but apparently he missed us, so he didn't sleep very well.
We went to the pool yesterday afternoon. DS7 swam around the big pool with a buddy of his who happened to be there, and DS4 splashed around in the kiddie pool while I read a book. It was warm but had a bit of a breeze, which was nice.
We rushed home to shower and have leftovers for dinner, then dashed out again to walk up to my friend's house. We joined her and her girls on a walk to the local McDonalds to have an ice cream cone. Both girls ate neatly, DS7 had a ring of ice cream and chocolate dip around his mouth (it is kind of adorable), and DS4... well, he WORE a lot of his. His hands were totally sticky, ice cream was dripping off his elbows onto his clothes, and the girls got a kick out of watching me try to clean him up a bit. We had to go into the bathroom to wash him up afterward.
We walked the girls home and saw that their dad had set a little sprinkler in the front yard to water the lawn. Naturally the younger girl (DS7's age) decided to do cartwheels through the sprinkler! and the boys had to follow her. Then they started challenging each other to other tricks (all in the sprinklr, of course) and eventually wound up chasing each other and tossing a wet ball at each other. It was pretty funny, especially when we had to drip-squeak! drip-squeak! all the way home.
So ANOTHER shower and then we got ready for bed. I made the mistake of trying to stay up "for just a minute" and fell asleep until around 11:30. I went to bed and just crashed, woke well after 8:00. Whoa!
And I still feel tired, dang it! Mama needs a nap!
But alas, more laundry and dishes and other chores call...
Oh. Speaking of which... While I was at my friend's house trying to get them out of the sprinkler and get on the way home, the wacky neighbors walked by. I just caught her out of the corner of my eye, and when I had the boys and turned back, they were gone. I was so relieved! I did not relish the idea of trying to make conversation, especially in front of others.
Sunny and quite lovely.
So where am I? Indoors with a screamin' headache.
DH had an OK day yesterday. Got into Denver just fine, but along the way got scheduled for several phone meetings (plus had one while he was waiting to fly out of Sea-Tac.) So wasn't exactly a relaxing day like we'd hoped.
I figured he's sleep well without my snoring and a certain 4yo's feet in his back all night, but apparently he missed us, so he didn't sleep very well.
We went to the pool yesterday afternoon. DS7 swam around the big pool with a buddy of his who happened to be there, and DS4 splashed around in the kiddie pool while I read a book. It was warm but had a bit of a breeze, which was nice.
We rushed home to shower and have leftovers for dinner, then dashed out again to walk up to my friend's house. We joined her and her girls on a walk to the local McDonalds to have an ice cream cone. Both girls ate neatly, DS7 had a ring of ice cream and chocolate dip around his mouth (it is kind of adorable), and DS4... well, he WORE a lot of his. His hands were totally sticky, ice cream was dripping off his elbows onto his clothes, and the girls got a kick out of watching me try to clean him up a bit. We had to go into the bathroom to wash him up afterward.
We walked the girls home and saw that their dad had set a little sprinkler in the front yard to water the lawn. Naturally the younger girl (DS7's age) decided to do cartwheels through the sprinkler!
and the boys had to follow her. Then they started challenging each other to other tricks (all in the sprinklr, of course) and eventually wound up chasing each other and tossing a wet ball at each other. It was pretty funny, especially when we had to drip-squeak! drip-squeak! all the way home. So ANOTHER shower and then we got ready for bed. I made the mistake of trying to stay up "for just a minute" and fell asleep until around 11:30. I went to bed and just crashed, woke well after 8:00. Whoa!
And I still feel tired, dang it! Mama needs a nap!
But alas, more laundry and dishes and other chores call...
I tell ya, between your sister and Gina's redneck neighbors, this is the most excitement I've had in a long time!The kids are coming to meet me for lunch, so need to get a few things done before then. I'll try to pop back on later with an update....yeah, like you guys have nothing better to do than listen to our soap opera like custody battle!
Oh. Speaking of which... While I was at my friend's house trying to get them out of the sprinkler and get on the way home, the wacky neighbors walked by. I just caught her out of the corner of my eye, and when I had the boys and turned back, they were gone. I was so relieved! I did not relish the idea of trying to make conversation, especially in front of others.
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Hi, Staley. 
Whatcha up to?
I'm just vegging, waiting for a headache pill to kick in. I'm hoping once the headache goes I won't feel so tired!
Whatcha up to?
I'm just vegging, waiting for a headache pill to kick in. I'm hoping once the headache goes I won't feel so tired!
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Alex!!!!
Alex2kMommy
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Hola, chica!
What's new?
What's new?
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Im hungry.. But that is a constant for me right now. We took the beasties swimming this morning... Told Alex if he swims across the whole pool he can have a special treat. He made it halfway.. So he is eager to try it again tomorrow. Dh got to see Mikalah swim for the first time today.. It is more like treading water really.. But hey, she is trying!
Other then that, just trying to plan our weekend out. Nothing to special. I cant believe it is only Tuesday. It feels like it should be much later in the week.
We took the beasties swimming this morning... Told Alex if he swims across the whole pool he can have a special treat. He made it halfway.. So he is eager to try it again tomorrow. Dh got to see Mikalah swim for the first time today.. It is more like treading water really.. But hey, she is trying! Other then that, just trying to plan our weekend out. Nothing to special. I cant believe it is only Tuesday. It feels like it should be much later in the week.
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BRB, switching to laptop downstairs...
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I hope your headache gets better soon!
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You have been gone to LONG!!! COme BACK!!!!!
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