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[goofy4prez]

CMs are getting raises every year. Your example doesn't seem to reflect the specific topic of the thread.

Umm, I think it does. They are protesting incomes and taking home less pay and the CEO took a 35% increase. What was the workers increase, 2% maybe 3 ?

 

[GinnyEmma]

Umm, I think it does. They are protesting incomes and taking home less pay and the CEO took a 35% increase. What was the workers increase, 2% maybe 3 ?

How many people here would be thrilled with. 2 or 3% raise?

 

[cinderellamom123]

I'm sure it was the Happiest Protest on Earth.

 

[Planogirl]

Did you get col raises this year? We haven't, ever. The only way most people get a raise of significant nature is to change jobs.

As far a being "on" all the time that is their job. It is what they are being paid for, just as the walmart employee might be paid to stock shelves. If you don't stock shelves or put up with irritating people, clients or patients you are not doing the job you are being paid to do. Not being paid enough is not an excuse for poor work quality, regardless of profession.

I never said anything about poor work quality. I just believe that dealing with people all day while keeping that smile plastered on your face is way more difficult than stocking shelves. We were talking about how difficult jobs were at one point.

And no I didn't get a raise. However I also didn't get a cut in pay.

 

[Planogirl]

How many people here would be thrilled with. 2 or 3% raise?

Probably not too many people making minimum wage or close to it. After taxes I doubt that you'd see much of a change.

 

[ftballfan7]

You've had good experiences, I've had crappy. People can be fired but my experience is that wheeling and dealing allowed people to be quietly moved along.

I've held the children who were assaulted and held their victims too. This particular man is probably responsible for dozens of victims of victims at this point. I have a problem with that. Yelling doesn't make your point better, btw.

One side here wants and has the right to complain about management. That is a given. A legal right to do something doesn't mean I have to like or approve of it. I don't approve of people picketing. I believe in leaving a bad position. I also believe that crying poor me because you can't afford luxuries is ridiculous. But i come from proud hard working people.

If you are still blaming the union for this pedophiles actions, then you are a good example of why I put that point in bold text. I don't live in some compter la-la land so i don't consider it yelling, just drawing attention to an important point. It is too bad that you can't lay the blame where it belongs and that is with management who failed to address the issue. In fact in most states, not only would they have a legal responsibility to fire the person, but also to report them to authorities. Management certainately had a moral responsibility to do so, as did any co-workers or other adults who suspected this was occurring. If there was wheeling and dealing between mngmt and the union, both were in the wrong, but the duty of care was greater with management (not that excuses anyone).

It is easy to leave a bad situation, but improving the situation helps not only the current workers, but future ones as well.

 

[goofy4prez]

How many people here would be thrilled with. 2 or 3% raise?

I"m not saying a 2% or 3% raise is bad. But the word raise is not really a good word, it is a cost of living adjustment. My point is the CEO took a 35% raise. This is the kind of corporate greed from CEO's that helped send this whole economy into a tailspin and has made it tougher on the rank and file workers and the small business owner such as myself. Like I said, I have no problem with them getting a nice size piece of the pie, but 35% in one year, from just over 12 million to 16 million per year. If those in the trenches receive 2-3% why not everyone else including the bean counters and those in the ivory tower only receive a 2-3% increase.

 

[ftballfan7]

Probably not too many people making minimum wage or close to it. After taxes I doubt that you'd see much of a change.

Very true! Woohoo you just went from $8.00 to $8.23/hr!

 

[ftballfan7]

But i come from proud hard working people.

I hope you are not insinuating that the workers at Disney (or any other low wage job) are not proud or hard working.

 

[Berlioz70]

1) I didn't read the article.
2) I do not know the current state of negotiations.

However, I wanted to say a couple things...

Last year (2009-2010 contract) Union workers received a 4-5% increase (depending on the role). My understanding is that the is the same proposed for the new contract, 3-5%. I'm not sure where the 2% is coming from and do not think that is accurate. 3 is the low end, specialized training roles (Cosmo, Techs, etc) will get more.

Disney offers health care incentives for people who take care of their health. It doesn't mean they have to run marathons or be body builders, but by simply taking an on-line health assessment and getting their cholesterol checked they receive a bonus. It doesn't even have to be in the ideal range, they just have to do it. Additionally, if they are in their target BMI range, they get another bonus. These are part of the health incentives to get people to take care of their health.

And this last piece is my understanding (not positive that I'm right), but I thought Bob's 35% increase included his "benefits" aka stock benefits. Disney's stock was great last year, the top three movies in 2010 were ALL DISNEY (Toy Story, Alice, and Iron Man). How much of that 35% was actually a paycheck?

Just throwing those thoughts out there.

 

[kikiq]

I"m not saying a 2% or 3% raise is bad. But the word raise is not really a good word, it is a cost of living adjustment. My point is the CEO took a 35% raise. This is the kind of corporate greed from CEO's that helped send this whole economy into a tailspin and has made it tougher on the rank and file workers and the small business owner such as myself. Like I said, I have no problem with them getting a nice size piece of the pie, but 35% in one year, from just over 12 million to 16 million per year. If those in the trenches receive 2-3% why not everyone else including the bean counters and those in the ivory tower only receive a 2-3% increase.

Iger is CEO of the Disney Company made of 4 separate divisions. The Board of Directors gave him that raise based on the strong performance of Disney stock up 24%. And let us remember, as the Board of Director giveth, it can take it away and find another CEO if the company loses stock value.

Robert Staggs is head of the Parks and Resort division. That's why I asked earlier if anyone knew the financials for the park/resort division, to see if there was growth or money to "spread" around. Disney stock value increase may be due to other Disney divisions. And there isn't any way that those divisions are going to give up their profits for another divisions pay raise. If only it was that simple.

 

[Planogirl]

Iron Man was actually made by Paramount. That doesn't mean that Disney didn't get something of course.

 

[Tgtown]

Iger is CEO of the Disney Company made of 4 separate divisions. The Board of Directors gave him that raise based on the strong performance of Disney stock up 24%. And let us remember, as the Board of Director giveth, it can take it away and find another CEO if the company loses stock value.

Robert Staggs is head of the Parks and Resort division. That's why I asked earlier if anyone knew the financials for the park/resort division, to see if there was growth or money to "spread" around. Disney stock value increase may be due to other Disney divisions. And there isn't any way that those divisions are going to give up their profits for another divisions pay raise. If only it was that simple.

Was wondering this also. Poor reporting with 35% raise. Should have been reported as 35% compensation increase subject to option exercise and Disney share price. According to 10K domestic park & resort revenues -1% yr/yr. Foreign parks & resort revs +6%. Total p&r revs + 1%.

Parks & resort yr/yr net income -7%.

 

[GinnyEmma]

I hope you are not insinuating that the workers at Disney (or any other low wage job) are not proud or hard working.

nope. working hard is a product of character. i've worked everything from ofc cleaning to retail to teaching to a private practice. But i didn't blame others when i didn;t have enough for luxuries. i did occasionally have to get a second job to get by. I did share apts., lived as an au pair so i could afford to survive.

I dont suppose you bothered to pay any attention to the entire point. You are too busy sitting there with a closed mind. Glad you have your boogyman. I have mine. At least I;m not in denial about beaurocrats and big business. You otoh seem to think nunions can do no harm, even when it has been shown. sad.

 

[Love Tink]

You are too busy sitting there with a closed mind.

Kettle? Pot on line one.

(Assuming pot can afford one of those luxurious telephones.)

 

[d-r]

Did you get col raises this year? We haven't, ever. The only way most people get a raise of significant nature is to change jobs.

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maybe you should picket

 

[WDSearcher]

Robert Staggs is head of the Parks and Resort division. That's why I asked earlier if anyone knew the financials for the park/resort division, to see if there was growth or money to "spread" around. Disney stock value increase may be due to other Disney divisions. And there isn't any way that those divisions are going to give up their profits for another divisions pay raise. If only it was that simple.

Actually, Thomas Staggs is head of the Parks & Resorts division. Robert Staggs is a coach at Pikesville College.

 

[NYDisneyKid]

Iger is CEO of the Disney Company.

he may be CEO but can he operate EE? (or any attraction)?
highly unlikely

 

[kikiq]

Actually, Thomas Staggs is head of the Parks & Resorts division. Robert Staggs is a coach at Pikesville College.

Ooops, don't know where that came from. Thanks!!!

 

[glassslippergirl]

I am so glad to see that many Disney enthusiasts live in a perfect world where a person unhappy with his salary can just leave a job and immediately find a new, "better" one. Wow! I though Fantasyland only existed in Disney World, but apparently many people live and work in it full time.

I am also glad that the view from the top of this Fantasyland is so good. It must be nice to be so comfortable in your world that you can look down at people who work in Disney customer service as high-school-drop-out-baby-makers.

And it must be nice to further judge these workers as they were protesting for better wages and benefits. So sorry that their perfectly legal and rightful protest may have inconvenienced you by having to explain to your children that not all people live in Fantasyland castles. Even Winnie the Pooh has to put honey on the table.

In the last year of following Dis discussion threads, I have noted many popular threads about how service at Disney World has declined. I have even contributed to a few. But did you ever stop to consider Disney's penchant for hiring part time employees and paying them rock bottom salaries may be contributing to the decline? The people who work in the front lines at Disney are not uneducated. Look at a CM's name tag sometime. How many are multi-lingual? Engage a CM in conversation. How many had a rich and diverse work history before working for the Mouse? They, like all working Americans, deserve a living wage for their hard work. If they have to protest to get that, so be it. This is America. Protesting is their right, just as those who disagree have a right to express their opinion.

I am pleased to see that so many other Dis posters understand the reasons behind the protest. And to the Disney employees embroiled in the contract negotiations, keep fighting the good fight. If you strike, I will not cross your picket line.