Cedar Point and "Guests of Exceptional Size"

Claudia1

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First of all, let me say that I'm not complaining or flaming Cedar Point. I'm just sharing my experience for some of my fellow CBers that may be in a similair situation. We just returned from a great weekend riding the 'coasters and we had a great time. Loved the Wicked Twister!

It has been a couple of years since my last visit to the Point and so I don't know when this policy was put in place. Their policy now is that the guest must secure their own setbelts and tighten them; the employee is not supposed to touch it. It becomes an issue with (this is their term, not mine) "guests of exceptional size". This is from their website: "Due to rider restraint system requirements, guests of exceptional size may not be accommodated on some of our rides. This may apply, but not be limited to, males who exceed 6'2", and those who exceed 225 pounds, have a 40" waistline or 52" chest or females who exceed 200 pounds or wear size 18 or larger." My DH and I are closer to those sizes than we would like to admit but are definitely not over. While those descriptions are large, they can also encompass some healthy individuals. I had a bad outcome from carpel tunnel surgery and my grip is very weak. Tightening my own belt is not easy and I would prefer that someone else so it for safety reasons.

When we boarded the Top Thrill Dragster, I had a seat belt that was stuck. The ride attendent insisted that I had to make it tighter...... I repeatedly showed him that it would not move and that I could put both fists under the sagging belt...... and he told me that he was not allowed to touch it. I had to tighten it myself or get off. I explained that I had a very weak grip and did not have the strength to get it unstuck. He kept telling me that I had to do it and he could not touch it. After 2-3 minutes, I got off to prevent holding up the ride. It was very hot, so I was wearing loose clothes which made me look larger than I really am and I was really embarrassed.

During the rest of the day, we saw ride attendents asking plus-sized guests to try the test seat at the entrance to the queue. If the guest did not fit, the attendent quickly sent them on their way. On Top Thrill, they were sending guests off on t least 50% of the trains.

Most ride attendents were great, though. The only ones that seemed to be strict were Top Thrill and Millenium Force. AT the MF, we saw guest smaller than us being turned away and so we didn't even try it, even though DH had ridden it many times before. Near the end of the day, our 12 yr old DS wanted to ride Top Thrill one more time so I waited in line with him. I planned to exit when he was seated but the ride attendant started up a conversation with us. When I told him why I was not riding (I was not going to be embarrassed again!), he told me to sit on his side. I boarded the ride and the belt was fine. He gave a quick tug to check it and all was well. Had a great ride, too!

Soooooooooo........ for those of you that know all about Cedar Point........ has there been a change? Was there a lawsuit or something that caused a change? Have the seat restraints changed on some rides or is it our imagination? Is my experience unusual or typical? Whats the deal with "I cannot not tighten it; you must do it yourself"? Again, let me state that I am not complaining!!!!! I will never complain about safety issues. It just seemed like things were different. Some attendants would automatically help and others would not touch it until the final check. They also did not allow us to wear camera bags on a shoulder strap, even with the strap was secured to a belt loop. Glasses were prevented, too, on some rides.

We did have a great weekend, though! Stayed at the new section in the Breakers in a Family Suite (loved the screened-in balcony); did every coaster except the MF and Blue Streak (without any trouble, I might add!); loved the early entry, too, from the resort.

Editted to add:

The phrase "guests of exceptional size" reminds me of "rodents of unusual size"! Just gotta laugh sometimes!
 
um yes i think its new. we just went there on thursday with my school and i saw that happening. my friend, who is "pooh sized" , tried to go on millenium force and they made her sit in the one in the beginning and said she was too big. i saw this one kid i know go on the ride and they said he was too big to ride, although hes not event hat big. he had to wait in a long line. and my other friend had to do that repetitive tugging on the belt thing, the guy didnt beleive her.
 
We went to Cedar point years ago and went to go on this one rollar coater(can't remember the name), it was new that year and the line was 2 hours long. As we got to the area were you load the ride this larger man was turned away, I couldn't believe they let him stand in the line for 2 hours and then told him he was too big to ride. There were some horrible people that snickered and laughed, our hearts just broke for him.
 
Although I'm sorry to hear that they're doing this--jeez, what about kids that may not be able to tighten the belt by themselves but are big enough to ride?--I am glad to hear that they're checking people at the ENTRANCE to the queue instead of having someone wait in line for a long time and then not be allowed on the ride.

We're off to Cedar Point this weekend and we're also staying at the Breakers and a balcony suite. We've stayed in one of these rooms before and really enjoyed it. I love being able to sit on the balcony and looking out over the lake.

I'm glad you had a good time anyway, Claudia. How were the lines?
 

Sounds like no Cedar Point in my future, Claudia, glad I got it in once for Riddle-Con a couple years ago. Sure sounds like a law suit result to me. Such a litigious world we live in, everybody is afraid to touch or help anyone else. :sad2:
 
This was their new policy starting last season. I can just barely get my girth into Millennium Force and Top Thrill Dragster. I swear that they made the belts shorter because at RiddleCON, my wife was able to ride both of these rides but could not fit into either ride on our last (and I emphasize LAST) trip to Cedar Point in May 2004.

We all pay for frivolous lawsuits and I guess that those of us who are of somewhat exceptional size are paying extra.
 
Claudia1 said:
Soooooooooo........ for those of you that know all about Cedar Point........ has there been a change? Was there a lawsuit or something that caused a change? Have the seat restraints changed on some rides or is it our imagination?

In general, I've noticed that the newer rides have smaller and smaller seats. Part of it, I think, is the designers desire to make sleaker, more streamlined (e.g. faster) rides.

That, and with the higher, faster rides, they can't have any room for error. I mean, the restraint fails on something like Gemini, you should still be fine. The restraint system fails on Top Thrill, you're kind of screwed.
 
When I was at CP last summer, we went on TTD. We were next in line and I felt so bad for a teenage girl who got turned away (after she had waited in line). I really think this policy is a little to extreme. People are many different shapes and sizes, so I don't think they should be so strict.
 
I imagine that this has to do with a death that occured at our nearby 6 Flags here in Mass. A very large man fell right out of the Superman coaster and died. The investigation determined that the lap bar was not properly positioned because his abdomen was too large to get it in the locked position. They also decided that very tall people would not be safe with the restraining devices in that ride either. I guess their center of gravity is too high.

As far as the no touch rule, maybe it's to protect against lawsuits. If the attendant didn't touch it, he can't be accused of improperly securing it. I can only imagine how much these parks pay in insurance costs. I guess they're just trying to stay in business with all these safety measures.
 
Wow looks like I won't bother heading to Cedar Point until after a "few " more "Curves" sessons :rotfl:
 
I imagine that this has to do with a death that occured at our nearby 6 Flags here in Mass. A very large man fell right out of the Superman coaster and died. The investigation determined that the lap bar was not properly positioned because his abdomen was too large to get it in the locked position. They also decided that very tall people would not be safe with the restraining devices in that ride either. I guess their center of gravity is too high.

As far as the no touch rule, maybe it's to protect against lawsuits. If the attendant didn't touch it, he can't be accused of improperly securing it. I can only imagine how much these parks pay in insurance costs. I guess they're just trying to stay in business with all these safety measures.

Very true. I belive that is the thing that caused all of this.
 
I was at Cedar Point last week for Coastermania 05 (omg - was there for over 15 hours on friday!) But - SPAM - I was there on thursday too!

Anyway - I don't ride coasters...I'll ride tamer ones, but that's it'. But while I was waiting for my DH and friends to get off Top Thrill Dragster, I overheard a conversation of a woman complaining about this very thing. (This was Friday monring...early, around 6:30am I want to say) She said she wasn't allowed to ride (but she could last year) and she wasn't allowed to use her "seatbelt extender" that she bought...and that other parks had no problem with her using them.

DH even said that on Millenium force the attendent said there had to be an inch of "belt" showing after you tighten your seatbelt. (meaning - the part you pull across - had to be an inch out) and after he secured himself, there was just an inch showing (he's not very large, but not a stick either)

I don't know...it's for your own safety. I wouldn't argue. Those coasters are pretty intense.
 
What about G.O.E.S.es?

Guests of Exceptional Size? I don't even think they exist...

:teeth:
 
This policy went into effect with 2004 season. Well Dear CP has lost a lot of ticket sales because up until last year a lot more people could ride. Towncrier's family, My DH and I, and my brother and his son, along with many former coworkers of DH all refuse to pay 60.00 to go to a park where we can't enjoy 3/4 rides. I took my money to disney and Am having a whole lot better time.
 
vettechick99 said:
What about G.O.E.S.es?

Guests of Exceptional Size? I don't even think they exist...

:teeth:
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I can't stop laughing at that.
 
We were there last year and this policy was in effect. Unfortunately I am on the border of this exceptional size and just barely was able to ride MF. I do think it is for safety reasons though so understand ... I really do need to lose some weight!!!
 
Wow! I see now why they changed things! Yes, that inch rule is a tough one. That was my downfall on TTD, even though I demonstrated that the belt was loose and I could not tighten it by myself. If it the belt had not been stuck, I would not have stood my ground and tried to make it work. However, I did go back and ride it.

We thought the belts were shorter, too, but then we thought that we might just be a little bigger than our last trip.

I agree with stinderkbelle. It is for safety and I won't argue.

As for the crowds, not bad. Our longest Sunday wait was for TTD and is was only 30-40 minutes. We did Saturday night "twilight" and Sunday all day long. It was hot and we were able to walk on all but the MF and TTD on Sunday; Wicked Twister was a 5 minute wait. No real waits on anything. Saturday night, though, we had 15-30 minute waits on everything; MF & TTD were over 45 minutes. Lots of 1/2 -1 hour break-downs.

I will admit, though, that I am a wimp when it comes to standing in line in the hot sun for over 30 mintues. WDW has spoiled me! That is also why we go on non-peak times. I often pointed out the in-the-sun queue lines to my 12 yr DS. I kept telling him to remember the hot waiting areas, not the thrill of the rides, when he begged us to take him back this summer. IMHO, no ride is worth waiting for 2 hours in the sun!

Hope this thread helps a fellow DISer.
 
I wil also add that I rode the Mean Streak and was actually scared for my life. DS loves the back seat on coasters and so we were there, with the lap bar was locked. On the first hill, the "air-time" lifted me up just enough that the bar locked on my thighs, not my hips. (I was not, repeat NOT trying to stand up or anything else unsafe. I have a great respect for rides and also my life, so I never try anything unsafe.)

For the rest of the ride, I was in a quasi-standing position, trying to hold on with my weakened grip, literally praying that the seat belt would hold and my family would not see me die. I really don't think I was in danger of flying out, but I was not as secure as I should have been. I think the combination of the whipping action on the back seat and my size caused the situation. I am still not clear why my seatbelt did not prevent me from slipping upward like that. I guess my lack of strength did not tighten it properly.

I enjoy coasters when I feel secure. That one was no fun!
 












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