CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[lifesavacation]

Ok, so tell me of another vaccine that takes genetic material (RNA or DNA) and has that material enter your cells to make proteins that you otherwise wouldn't make. Go ahead, I will wait. That my friends is gene therapy...

Now, again for those who have trouble understanding, this is not necessarily a bad thing. If these truly don't cause any long term side effects in most people then it would be great for our prospects of current viruses/bacteria we don't have vaccines for, future outbreaks and even possibly to help treat or cure other diseases.

And no, they don't change your genetic material (DNA) but they do instruct it to produce proteins that it otherwise wouldn't make. So, I can see why the statement bothers you but again it isn't necessarily a bad thing. We just don't know what we don't know.

That's all I will say on this so feel free to respond but I will just not reply back.

It is simply not gene therapy. You are misinformed.

Here's a Forbes article dispelling this anti-vax argument. https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...therapy-as-some-are-claiming/?sh=6b13b6723d20

 

[ShirikiUtundu]

Ok, so tell me of another vaccine that takes genetic material (RNA or DNA) and has that material enter your cells to make proteins that you otherwise wouldn't make. Go ahead, I will wait. That my friends is gene therapy...

mRNA does not = gene

Now, again for those who have trouble understanding

that's you. THAT'S LITERALLY YOU

That's all I will say on this so feel free to respond but I will just not reply back.

 

[Mango7100]

Ok, so tell me of another vaccine that takes genetic material (RNA or DNA) and has that material enter your cells to make proteins that you otherwise wouldn't make. Go ahead, I will wait. That my friends is gene therapy...

Now, again for those who have trouble understanding, this is not necessarily a bad thing. If these truly don't cause any long term side effects in most people then it would be great for our prospects of current viruses/bacteria we don't have vaccines for, future outbreaks and even possibly to help treat or cure other diseases.

And no, they don't change your genetic material (DNA) but they do instruct it to produce proteins that it otherwise wouldn't make. So, I can see why the statement bothers you but again it isn't necessarily a bad thing. We just don't know what we don't know.

That's all I will say on this so feel free to respond but I will just not reply back.

Well I will bite though you will likely not respond because you seem pretty confident on your knowledge. Oncept canine melanoma vaccine is a DNA vaccine for therapeutic use in dogs with oral melanoma. It is classified as immunotherapy (NOT gene therapy). It uses DNA for human tyrosinase. Fort Dodge vaccine for West Nile Virus in horses is a DNA vaccine that was licensed 16 years ago in 2005.

So for “those of you who have trouble understanding” there are two examples from my professional field.

And to the statement that “they instruct your body to produce proteins that it otherwise wouldn’t make” that’s what a vaccine does! Any vaccine! Because guess what antibodies are....proteins! So that tetanus vaccine...it’s making up produce proteins you otherwise wouldn’t make. I could go on, but the point is made

 

[Donaldswife]

Ok, so tell me of another vaccine that takes genetic material (RNA or DNA) and has that material enter your cells to make proteins that you otherwise wouldn't make. Go ahead, I will wait. That my friends is gene therapy...

Now, again for those who have trouble understanding, this is not necessarily a bad thing. If these truly don't cause any long term side effects in most people then it would be great for our prospects of current viruses/bacteria we don't have vaccines for, future outbreaks and even possibly to help treat or cure other diseases.

And no, they don't change your genetic material (DNA) but they do instruct it to produce proteins that it otherwise wouldn't make. So, I can see why the statement bothers you but again it isn't necessarily a bad thing. We just don't know what we don't know.

That's all I will say on this so feel free to respond but I will just not reply back.

That is not what gene therapy is. Please look here for the definition.

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/therapy/genetherapy/
Quit calling it gene therapy when gene therapy is a completely different thing. it is replacing or changing your genetics, Mrna vaccines send a message to your cells to create a protein. IT IS NOT GENE THERAPY no matter how many times you claim it is.

 

[Mango7100]

That is not what gene therapy is. Please look here for the definition.

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/therapy/genetherapy/
Quit calling it gene therapy when gene therapy is a completely different thing. it is replacing or changing your genetics, Mrna vaccines send a message to your cells to create a protein. IT IS NOT GENE THERAPY no matter how many times you claim it is.

She also neglects to mention that the mRNA never enters the cell nucleus, never integrates into your DNA, and is broken down by cell enzymes once the spike protein is made.

 

[RamblingMad]

She also neglects to mention that the mRNA never enters the cell nucleus, never integrates into your DNA, and is broken down by cell enzymes once the spike protein is made.

Misinformation on the Internet is a serious problem.

 

[AvidDisReader]

Ok, so tell me of another vaccine that takes genetic material (RNA or DNA) and has that material enter your cells to make proteins that you otherwise wouldn't make. Go ahead, I will wait. That my friends is gene therapy...

Now, again for those who have trouble understanding, this is not necessarily a bad thing. If these truly don't cause any long term side effects in most people then it would bie great for our prospects of current viruses/bacteria we don't have vaccines for, future outbreaks and even possibly to help treat or cure other diseases.

And no, they don't change your genetic material (DNA) but they do instruct it to produce proteins that it otherwise wouldn't make. So, I can see why the statement bothers you but again it isn't necessarily a bad thing. We just don't know what we don't know.

That's all I will say on this so feel free to respond but I will just not reply back.

Tink I love reading your posts, but sometimes we all have to admit when we make mistakes. Such is the case on you calling the vaccine for Covid Gene therapy. Let it go and move on. But please, do not stop posting.

 

[RamblingMad]

What's up with JnJ? This company's board needs to do something about this.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/03/31/world/covid-19-coronavirus#johnson-and-johnson-vaccine-mixup
"Workers at a Baltimore plant manufacturing two coronavirus vaccines accidentally conflated the vaccines’ ingredients several weeks ago, ruining about 15 million doses of Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine and forcing regulators to delay authorization of the plant’s production lines."

And if you haven't heard, France is locked down again. That UK variant is causing havoc in the EU.

 

[DLgal]

This is a fascinating article about how our immune system cells undergo their own mutations to fight viral variants naturally. Pretty encouraging stuff!

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/your-immune-system-evolves-to-fight-coronavirus-variants/

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

What's up with JnJ? This company's board needs to do something about this.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/03/31/world/covid-19-coronavirus#johnson-and-johnson-vaccine-mixup
"Workers at a Baltimore plant manufacturing two coronavirus vaccines accidentally conflated the vaccines’ ingredients several weeks ago, ruining about 15 million doses of Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine and forcing regulators to delay authorization of the plant’s production lines."

My husband just sent me that. It explains why we were getting so little this week of doses in comparison to what had been anticipated. It's just pretty bad because of how many doses it affect. Unfortunately things happen, frustrating as they are. Looking on the potential not so bad side maybe it won't end up affecting things for too too long.

 

[snappy]

This is a fascinating article about how our immune system cells undergo their own mutations to fight viral variants naturally. Pretty encouraging stuff!

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/your-immune-system-evolves-to-fight-coronavirus-variants/

Good article. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Pyotr]

Pfizer reports no loss of efficacy against the South African variant.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1377577550650609668

 

[Farro]

Pfizer reports no loss of efficacy against the South African variant.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1377577550650609668

Do we think Moderna would have similar results?

 

[piglet1979]

Do we think Moderna would have similar results?

I am hoping it does.

 

[mom2rtk]

FWIW, this was in the housing information email sent to all students at UMass Amherst, the largest public university in the state, re next year and vaccines:
"Please note, along with many other campuses, UMass Amherst is exploring a vaccination requirement for on campus residents. A final decision will be made once the university has federal, state, and legal guidance and will be dependent upon the availability of the vaccine. We will provide more information as soon as it is available."

Personally, I think that there is a high probability that to participate on campus at many universities, you will need to be vaccinated. I am sure that there will be medical and religious exemptions, but I think that eventually the requirement will be there. Dormitories, like nursing homes, prisons, etc... are at such high risk to be super spreaders. Time will tell, of course.

If dorms were as high a risk as prisons and nursing homes, they probably should have been prioritized for vaccine access early on.

That said, I am 100% supportive of vaccine mandates for college campuses. They require them for many other diseases that haven't shut down the entire system in the past year. But I do understand why some would have hesitation in vaccinating young people without full FDA approval. Hopefully it will come in time for the new school year.

 

[mom2rtk]

Misinformation on the Internet is a serious problem.

People should know better than to believe everything they see online.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Or smart parents just go out and get it for their kids when it's available.

Yup. This is very good news. I've read that we may need this group....12-15 year olds to put us over the top to reach herd immunity. Of course, that will depend on how many actual adults end up taking the vaccine.

 

[Mango7100]

Yup. This is very good news. I've read that we may need this group....12-15 year olds to put us over the top to reach herd immunity. Of course, that will depend on how many actual adults end up taking the vaccine.

I agree. I think the 12-18 age group is critical. Not so much for hospitalizations and poor outcomes but to help reduce community spread. the majority of cases in our school have been in the 12+ year olds

 

[dvcgirl67]

I agree. I think the 12-18 age group is critical. Not so much for hospitalizations and poor outcomes but to help reduce community spread. the majority of cases in our school have been in the 12+ year olds

This is supposedly what is happening in my county right now in NJ where we have a lot of community spread.....it's teens to early 20s....middle school, high school and college kids (who are home for breaks). My sisters were ecstatic to hear about the Pfizer study.....kids in our family are 13,14, and 15.

 

[TLSnell1981]

No store is ever going to require vaccines to shop there. Concert venues are a different story and frankly, I HOPE they require covid vaccines to attend. Anywhere that has lots of people crammed into an indoor space where there will be yelling and screaming and singing needs to have some pretty strict attendance protocols in the near future, at least. And things like cruise ships ABSOLUTELY need to require vaccines. Look at what happened on those ships at the start of this pandemic. Those things are literally floating petri dishes. Those cruise lines are well within their rights to require anything they want, given the absolutely appalling situations that took place with trapped cruisers last spring.

People and their "rights" don't trump private businesses and their "rights." The fact that people don't seem to grasp this is maddening (and I'm not singling you out here, just making a general statement).

I wouldn't ever say never. The world has gone nuts. JMO