CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[DisneyJamieCA]

My dad got his second dose of Moderna a week ago. He said he felt like he got beat up the next day, but some Tylenol and a nap seemed to help.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I can't add too much to this due to its political aspect but this is what makes me feel like the cart was put before the horse when it came to this May 1st deadline. Coupled with this news article https://www.kctv5.com/coronavirus/v...-5b8a-a817-dfcd05d3370b.html?block_id=1013203 and I wish that deadline wasn't even existing (purely a personal opinion there).

https://www.kctv5.com/coronavirus/v...-59d7-8f46-704186b90a1c.html?block_id=1013203
It should be noted that multiple states including mine, including the one next to me opened up additional phases (phase 3/4 and phase 2 respectively for mine and the state next to me) based on projections of anticipated increase of supply including J&J. My state alone was anticipating 100K doses from J&J. That's 100K people or a 1/6th of the people estimated to be eligible in the combined phase 3/4. It's a lot to say the least to our state. The caveat was already there as far as "this is based on increased supply projections from the Federal government" and I do believe at least my state was getting very close as a whole to being ready to move on (I believe they said within a few weeks they would have been ready regardless) but pressure is pressure.

 

[piglet1979]

Does anyone have information about where to get the vaccine in VA? Any tips? My cousin lives outside of the DC area and has not been able to get one. She is over 50 with some autoimmune diseases. I am hoping to try and help her find an appointment but I am in Ohio and know nothing about how VA is handling things.

 

[KingAugie]

My dh's age group was just opened up today and I thought I would have a hard time signing him up but I had no problems at all. I signed him up for the same time and place that my ds signed up for last week when the state opened more sites. IIRC there were around 490 appointments available that first day. Today when I scheduled dh's there were 293 openings. It is a more rural place but I am very surprised by all the available appointments through the end of April. I'm guessing in another week they will open up for the 40+ residents.

 

[Joe in VA]

Does anyone have information about where to get the vaccine in VA? Any tips? My cousin lives outside of the DC area and has not been able to get one. She is over 50 with some autoimmune diseases. I am hoping to try and help her find an appointment but I am in Ohio and know nothing about how VA is handling things.

I got my mom the vax at Kroger in Richmond. Rite Aid in Richmond is fairly easy to schedule appts. Have not looked into the NOVA/DC area. Hopefully VA lowers the eligible age from 65 soon, its fairly absurd at this point.

 

[piglet1979]

Thank you. I will take a look. She was telling how bad the roll out has been in VA. Ohio is completely different.

 

[Joe in VA]

While cases nationwide seem to be plateauing, deaths are dropping fast. The vaccine is working wonders. It's possible we can see a slight uptick in cases, but cases now do not equal cases in January. 10,000 cases now means much fewer deaths than it would have meant, the vast majority of elderly now having received at least one dose of the vax.

The 7 day average for deaths has dropped from 1,655 to just over 1,000 a day in two weeks, that's a 40% decrease! They're down over 50% in the last three weeks on a rolling avg bases (from over 2000 a day to 1000).

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

 

[godisney14]

While cases nationwide seem to be plateauing, deaths are dropping fast. The vaccine is working wonders. It's possible we can see a slight uptick in cases, but cases now do not equal cases in January. 10,000 cases now means much fewer deaths than it would have meant, the vast majority of elderly now having received at least one dose of the vax.

The 7 day average for deaths has dropped from 1,655 to just over 1,000 a day in two weeks, that's a 40% decrease! They're down over 50% in the last three weeks on a rolling avg bases (from over 2000 a day to 1000).

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Classic example of a questionable clause logical fallacy.

 

[RamblingMad]

16+ starting tomorrow in AZ. Fingers crossed. I hope the young adults get it.

 

[disneychick0412]

Watching the news is so depressing. Fauci and the CDC director both talking about a surge. Then, it's mentioned that over 2 million people are being vaccinated per day.
But we are still expecting a surge? I can see why based off of that some people don't know why they should get a vaccine. I'm glad to be fully vaccinated, but I logged on to Kroger pharmacy to see if there were available appointments and there were tons of appointments to be made, as soon as the next day. I wish we could give them to some of you on here that are struggling to find spots! We are in Phase 1C in my state, anyone 60 or older, anyone 16+ with any medical or behavioral health condition that the CDC reports are or might be at increased risk of severe illness and all essential workers. The numbers in my state have been dropping and yesterday we hit a positivity rate of 2.93% which is the lowest since 07/03.
What do you all make of the "surge talk"?

 

[RamblingMad]

Watching the news is so depressing. Fauci and the CDC director both talking about a surge. Then, it's mentioned that over 2 million people are being vaccinated per day.
But we are still expecting a surge? I can see why based off of that some people don't know why they should get a vaccine. I'm glad to be fully vaccinated, but I logged on to Kroger pharmacy to see if there were available appointments and there were tons of appointments to be made, as soon as the next day. I wish we could give them to some of you on here that are struggling to find spots! We are in Phase 1C in my state, anyone 60 or older, anyone 16+ with any medical or behavioral health condition that the CDC reports are or might be at increased risk of severe illness and all essential workers. The numbers in my state have been dropping and yesterday we hit a positivity rate of 2.93% which is the lowest since 07/03.
What do you all make of the "surge talk"?

We are seeing surges in Europe and the UK tied to specific variants (B117). Some spread faster. I think that’s the fear. One of the variants that spreads fast is making up the majority of new cases in MI.

It’s really going to boil down to getting enough of the population vaccinated. We don’t know how long the vaccinations last yet, so the more we get done in a short window of time, the faster we can get to herd immunity.

 

[anniemae]

Watching the news is so depressing. Fauci and the CDC director both talking about a surge. Then, it's mentioned that over 2 million people are being vaccinated per day.
But we are still expecting a surge? I can see why based off of that some people don't know why they should get a vaccine. I'm glad to be fully vaccinated, but I logged on to Kroger pharmacy to see if there were available appointments and there were tons of appointments to be made, as soon as the next day. I wish we could give them to some of you on here that are struggling to find spots! We are in Phase 1C in my state, anyone 60 or older, anyone 16+ with any medical or behavioral health condition that the CDC reports are or might be at increased risk of severe illness and all essential workers. The numbers in my state have been dropping and yesterday we hit a positivity rate of 2.93% which is the lowest since 07/03.
What do you all make of the "surge talk"?

I don't know what to make of it either. Part of me thinks they want to scare us so we won't let our guard down and go crazy too soon (I'm looking at you Miami spring breakers). Another part of me looks at what is happening in places like Italy and France and wonders if that could happen again here. (getting eerie flashbacks of the news showing Italy in lockdown back in Feb 2020 thinking "that won't happen here will it?").

I think they are trying to get as many people vaccinated as fast as humanly possible, which is good, but I also think they are downplaying the vaccine (get vaccinated, but don't go out and live your life) and it's making people think "why bother?" I think the only way out of this is to keep vaccinating. Quickly. I wish they would do it 24 hours a day to get it done. I think Fauci and the CDC feel like we need to vaccinate asap, but we also keep those people in reality and let them know that even though numbers are dropping we need to stay vigilant for another month or so until we get more people vaccinated and then the variants won't be able to take off. I think we are at a critical point right now and we can end this or drag it out. Time will tell.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I wish they would do it 24 hours a day to get it done.

There are def. places who would love to be able to do that (or as close to it as they can). It would make their jobs easier if they could accommodate more people's schedules or catch people who want it and don't mind going late at night/early morning. Both my husband and I were like "we'd wake up in the middle of the night if we had to, no problem there".

They need the supply to do so. They need the supply in their state, they need the supply in their health department and their hospital system. As more supply comes they can add more hours, more volunteers (or those paid), larger facilities and more.

Places are trying though and as the weeks go on and more supply trickles through it makes it easier for them to consider longer hours more days.

 

[DLgal]

I think there actually will be a surge here. It's already happening in several states. However, I think it will be a very SMALL surge, not anything like we had over the summer or winter last year and into January.

It seems in our county, our numbers have leveled off. They have leveled off at a number that is lower than our lowest point between the summer and winter surges, but is higher than we ever saw before the summer surge (likely due to our early lockdown in the spring).

We are at around between 3-4 cases per 100K, which is good for now. Our highest during the winter surge was like 100/100K.

 

[Pyotr]

Watching the news is so depressing. Fauci and the CDC director both talking about a surge. Then, it's mentioned that over 2 million people are being vaccinated per day.
But we are still expecting a surge? I can see why based off of that some people don't know why they should get a vaccine. I'm glad to be fully vaccinated, but I logged on to Kroger pharmacy to see if there were available appointments and there were tons of appointments to be made, as soon as the next day. I wish we could give them to some of you on here that are struggling to find spots! We are in Phase 1C in my state, anyone 60 or older, anyone 16+ with any medical or behavioral health condition that the CDC reports are or might be at increased risk of severe illness and all essential workers. The numbers in my state have been dropping and yesterday we hit a positivity rate of 2.93% which is the lowest since 07/03.
What do you all make of the "surge talk"?

I don’t buy the surge talk. As critical of Gottlieb as I’ve been, I think he's been right on the money lately.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1373663696157868033

 

[KingAugie]

Watching the news is so depressing. Fauci and the CDC director both talking about a surge. Then, it's mentioned that over 2 million people are being vaccinated per day.
But we are still expecting a surge? I can see why based off of that some people don't know why they should get a vaccine. I'm glad to be fully vaccinated, but I logged on to Kroger pharmacy to see if there were available appointments and there were tons of appointments to be made, as soon as the next day. I wish we could give them to some of you on here that are struggling to find spots! We are in Phase 1C in my state, anyone 60 or older, anyone 16+ with any medical or behavioral health condition that the CDC reports are or might be at increased risk of severe illness and all essential workers. The numbers in my state have been dropping and yesterday we hit a positivity rate of 2.93% which is the lowest since 07/03.
What do you all make of the "surge talk"?

As long as the hospital cases and death numbers keep going down I'm not going to be concerned with a surge in cases.

 

[Katiebird]

I personally don’t think we’ll have a huge surge, but probably/maybe a smaller one. Part of the problem is that no one can know for sure, and we won’t know until it happens or doesn’t happen, but that doesn’t make good headlines.

I think we just have to cross our fingers and hope that we can vaccinate faster than the virus spreads.

 

[Colleen27]

While cases nationwide seem to be plateauing, deaths are dropping fast. The vaccine is working wonders. It's possible we can see a slight uptick in cases, but cases now do not equal cases in January. 10,000 cases now means much fewer deaths than it would have meant, the vast majority of elderly now having received at least one dose of the vax.

The 7 day average for deaths has dropped from 1,655 to just over 1,000 a day in two weeks, that's a 40% decrease! They're down over 50% in the last three weeks on a rolling avg bases (from over 2000 a day to 1000).

Deaths lag cases, so the drop in deaths now is an echo of the drop in cases a month or so ago. The real test will be whether they plateau, in an echo of the case plateau, or continue falling.

We are seeing surges in Europe and the UK tied to specific variants (B117). Some spread faster. I think that’s the fear. One of the variants that spreads fast is making up the majority of new cases in MI.

It’s really going to boil down to getting enough of the population vaccinated. We don’t know how long the vaccinations last yet, so the more we get done in a short window of time, the faster we can get to herd immunity.

FWIW, the UK variant is far from the majority of MI cases right now. We have the second-most identified cases of the variant among states but they're still accounting for a tiny fraction of total cases. Last I saw, the count was 600-some UK variant cases have been identified so far, about half of them associated with a particular prison outbreak. Compared to the 2000+ new daily cases, that's really not a large share. But of course we're not sequencing every specimen, either.

Locally, I'm hearing more skepticism of ever hitting herd immunity after a relatively well-known member of the community was hospitalized with covid almost 2 months after being fully vaccinated. I haven't heard it reported anywhere, though, so there's a part of me that wonders if either the relative that went public about his condition is not being entirely truthful or if he himself wasn't entirely truthful in his statements about getting the vaccine. I feel like if there were a confirmed case of a local businessman getting seriously ill with covid despite the vaccine, it would be reported... we've certainly read enough stories about people testing positive before enough time has elapsed for the vaccine to work, and this would be far more newsworthy.

And of the seven worst-tier counties in the state (50+ daily cases per 100K), five have vaccination rates of 1/3 or more, which doesn't exactly encourage optimism that we can vaccinate fast enough to head off another wave.

As long as the hospital cases and death numbers keep going down I'm not going to be concerned with a surge in cases.

Watch the states that are seeing surging numbers right now... because in mine, at least, we are seeing a corresponding surge in hospitalizations. The statewide total went up 20% just from Friday to Monday this week. It is too soon to tell whether that will translate into a subsequent surge of deaths. Anecdotally, I'm hearing from friends in the medical field that this batch of hospitalized patients is, on whole, younger than during earlier waves, and if that holds true as a broad trend it might mean more will survive. But it is still an awfully lot of people who are very seriously ill.

 

[erin1715]

Part of me (and maybe I’m not alone in this thought) wonders if all of the lockdowns and precautions of the past year have even mattered. Would the virus have just done what it wanted to do anyway. Are we just prolonging the inevitable and dragging it out instead of ripping the Bandaid off? Then the other part of me thinks, no of course we have helped prevent what could have been many many more deaths by distancing and masking.
I don’t know...just thinking out loud.

 

[piglet1979]

Part of me (and maybe I’m not alone in this thought) wonders if all of the lockdowns and precautions of the past year have even mattered. Would the virus have just done what it wanted to do anyway. Are we just prolonging the inevitable and dragging it out instead of ripping the Bandaid off? Then the other part of me thinks, no of course we have helped prevent what could have been many many more deaths by distancing and masking.
I don’t know...just thinking out loud.

Yes I have thought this too. Some days I just don't even know what to think. Deep down though I think it might have been much worse if we did nothing.