CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

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I’d guess not news in most states, or households. Other than initially when this virus was new back in March/April 2020, we have been seeing our family with no masks. That’s our choice.

The news is that the CDC (apparently, we’ll see what they actually announce) says that small gatherings inside when fully vaccinated is safe.

What you’ve been doing is certainly your choice, and many have been doing that, but at no time has it been deemed safe.
 

I’d guess not news in most states, or households. Other than initially when this virus was new back in March/April 2020, we have been seeing our family with no masks. That’s our choice.
I think it's different if it's coming from the CDC whatever they end up actually saying. That's why I was wondering what the other person meant. A state can do what they want for the most part and many of them have been throughout all of this so that's not exactly news either and people have been doing what they want too. Guidance from the CDC is just on a different level and that is or will be news.
 
The news is that the CDC (apparently, we’ll see what they actually announce) says that small gatherings inside when fully vaccinated is safe.

What you’ve been doing is certainly your choice, and many have been doing that, but at no time has it been deemed safe.
I guess it all depends on one’s definition of safe. I’d take a 99% survival rate over not seeing my my parents for a year.
 
I guess it all depends on one’s definition of safe. I’d take a 99% survival rate over not seeing my my parents for a year.

Safe in this case means that fully vaccinated people are unlikely to spread or contract the virus.

You’re talking about personal risk level, which is valid.

If you’ve been gathering with your parents because you’re all comfortable with that risk, great. The CDC is now saying that they have evidence that once you’re all fully vaccinated, you can gather without that risk.
 
Safe in this case means that fully vaccinated people are unlikely to spread or contract the virus.

You’re talking about personal risk level, which is valid.

If you’ve been gathering with your parents because you’re all comfortable with that risk, great. The CDC is now saying that they have evidence that once you’re all fully vaccinated, you can gather without that risk.
There are other safety measures that are very efficient. There are always risks in life besides COVID. It’s going to take awhile to bring down the fear level.
 
Vaccine-wise, I think it’s reasonable to say it:

they’re moving at a speed that will have people here eligible long before they feared.

California was expecting 380,000 doses of J&J vaccine this week. It's getting zero. Instead, they were allowed to order "up to 360,000" doses to be delivered by the end of next week.

And time keeps ticking on...
 
Yeah but I kinda go back to the whole statement of anyone who wants it by April which is the statement that launched the prior discussion. The U.S. isn't projecting based on surveys.

It's not aimed at you at all just bouncing off your comment but we can't just decide a statement means something else later if something ends up being different especially when a discussion was occurring where people were talking about the statement taken at face value. It's not the first time though in this thread where conversations were altered and a viewpoint tweaked simply to suit the outcome when some update happened.

I think we're sort of splitting semantics hairs here, though. I'm reading "anyone who wants it" as taking the fact that many do not into account, while you're reading it as more open-ended and encompassing the possibility that most everyone could decide they want it.

Either way, the projections are certainly much more promising than they were a month ago.
 
California was expecting 380,000 doses of J&J vaccine this week. It's getting zero. Instead, they were allowed to order "up to 360,000" doses to be delivered by the end of next week.

And time keeps ticking on...
What happened to ones we were supposed to get?
 
California was expecting 380,000 doses of J&J vaccine this week. It's getting zero. Instead, they were allowed to order "up to 360,000" doses to be delivered by the end of next week.

And time keeps ticking on...
I looked for this story. Couldn’t find anything.
 
Well, now it is a race between DD19 and DH, because Detroit just extended eligibility to factory workers who live or work in the city and that's where his main plant is. And despite waffling about the vaccine in theory, he's now saying he may as well just get it because he'll probably need it to travel next summer anyway (I think he's really more worried about MIL's refusal to get it herself). So we'll see which of them gets an appointment first.
 
I think we're sort of splitting semantics hairs here, though. I'm reading "anyone who wants it" as taking the fact that many do not into account, while you're reading it as more open-ended and encompassing the possibility that most everyone could decide they want it.

Either way, the projections are certainly much more promising than they were a month ago.
I can respect that interpretation and viewpoint :) I think the discussions from some however based on people's interpretations but presented as fact. Either way I don't think Fauci or Gottlieb would take a survey of Americans at a random point in time as gospel for their predictions rather than taking the U.S. population as a whole though that I will state is an opinion.

And yes I would agree on your last statement :)
 
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