CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

After signing them up, we checked out our county's health department site, but they're still only taking 1a, despite the Governor saying that now everyone 65 and up should be eligible. And so it goes...

I wouldn't look at it that way like your county is doing something wrong.

The governor in your state, with guidance from the CDC asking the states to be open to doing this with 65+ age group, expanded eligibility. That just means if a given area has the capacity to do so you become eligible rather than staying ineligible. Your county being on 1a does not mean they aren't doing what they are supposed to be doing. I don't know what your county is but given my area it means they don't have enough doses and a really high demand. In your county it may just mean they are still working through 1a with the amount of doses they have and they cannot accommodate en masse, presently at least, those who have just become eligible. This is assuming your county's health department website has been recently updated as far as information and is advising they are still on 1a which is up to date.

But at least they are signed up and you are signed up. That should help out

 

[godisney14]

Moderna CEO said today in the news that they will be gathering data from willing trial participants to get a follow-up booster shot starting in March to see what the immune response would be. Casually stated that the vaccine (obviously, need to look at whatever data will come out later this year first) may be an annual thing like the flu given the changing mutations and variants.

 

[RamblingMad]

Moderna CEO said today in the news that they will be gathering data from willing trial participants to get a follow-up booster shot starting in March to see what the immune response would be. Casually stated that the vaccine (obviously, need to look at whatever data will come out later this year first) may be an annual thing like the flu given the changing mutations and variants.

The more it spreads the more it mutates.

This is going to be a rough decade.

 

[godisney14]

The more it spreads the more it mutates.

This is going to be a rough decade.

As has been reported repeatedly from other medical professionals around the world before.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-lungs-worse-smokers-lungs/

And, Dr. Scott Gottlieb on CNBC today said this spring and summer will likely be worse given new mutations are being found regularly now.

 

[DLgal]

New mutations are an expected thing. There isn't a need to worry that they will somehow evade the vaccines. In fact, the mRNA technology is such that it can be quickly and easily adapted to target new strains if necessary. They just need to insert (i.e. plug in) a new line of code during production and voila, new vaccine. There would be no need to redo trials or anything since the technology won't have to change at all.

What these mutations will eventually do is make the virus no more harmful than the common cold, so we should be glad these are happening so quickly.

 

[*DisneyDreamer]

As has been reported repeatedly from other medical professionals around the world before.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-lungs-worse-smokers-lungs/

And, Dr. Scott Gottlieb on CNBC today said this spring and summer will likely be worse given new mutations are being found regularly now.

The news just keeps getting better and better. One day it’s “we’ve got to get through the winter and then we should see some relief,” but then the next it’s “oh never mind, with all these variants, spring and summer could be really bad too.” It’s never ending and just downright depressing and exhausting at this point.

 

[Pyotr]

New mutations are an expected thing. There isn't a need to worry that they will somehow evade the vaccines. In fact, the mRNA technology is such that it can be quickly and easily adapted to target new strains if necessary. They just need to insert (i.e. plug in) a new line of code during production and voila, new vaccine. There would be no need to redo trials or anything since the technology won't have to change at all.

What these mutations will eventually do is make the virus no more harmful than the common cold, so we should be glad these are happening so quickly.

Dr. Scott Gottlieb is on Pfizer's Board of Directors and he has a financial interest in hyping the pandemic.

https://www.pfizer.com/people/leadership/board-of-directors/scott_gottlieb-md

 

[anniemae]

As has been reported repeatedly from other medical professionals around the world before.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-lungs-worse-smokers-lungs/

And, Dr. Scott Gottlieb on CNBC today said this spring and summer will likely be worse given new mutations are being found regularly now.

This is all so confusing. Fauci has said the vaccines will get us out of the pandemic and things will start to be more normal by summer. And were is Jonfw2?

 

[godisney14]

New mutations are an expected thing. There isn't a need to worry that they will somehow evade the vaccines. In fact, the mRNA technology is such that it can be quickly and easily adapted to target new strains if necessary. They just need to insert (i.e. plug in) a new line of code during production and voila, new vaccine. There would be no need to redo trials or anything since the technology won't have to change at all.

So, some of the pandemic critics were right after all!
This virus will be just like the flu! (With respect to possibly getting regular vaccines).

Sure, it’s as smple as rewriting the mRNA. But, which strain sequence would they deliver to the cell? Theoretically, it would then be like a flu vaccine that is
somewhat effective because you’re just guessing the most dominant strain.

What these mutations will eventually do is make the virus no more harmful than the common cold, so we should be glad these are happening so quickly.

Viral mutations make them less harmful over time?
So then why the need for a COVID vaccine in the future at all?

Dr. Scott Gottlieb is on Pfizer's Board of Directors and he has a financial interest in hyping the pandemic.

Hyping a pandemic?
Let’s be a little more serious than that. We’re in a terrible pandemic.

 

[DLgal]

So, some of the pandemic critics were right after all!
This virus will be just like the flu! (With respect to possibly getting regular vaccines).

Sure, it’s as smple as rewriting the mRNA. But, which strain sequence would they deliver to the cell? Theoretically, it would then be like a flu vaccine that is
somewhat effective because you’re just guessing the most dominant strain.


Viral mutations make them less harmful over time?
So then why the need for a COVID vaccine in the future at all?


Hyping a pandemic?
Let’s be a little more serious than that. We’re in a terrible pandemic.

We probably won't need a covid vaccine in the future. Best guess is that in about a decade, it will be no more harmful than the cold.

However, researchers at UC Irvine are currently trying to develop a vaccine that will work against ANY and ALL coronaviruses. If that is successful, we will never have to worry about either getting colds or dealing with a pandemic of this nature caused by a coronavirus again.

The bottom line is this: once we reach sufficient numbers of immunity/exposure, via either vaccines or natural infection, worldwide, the virus will stop being so dangerous. With most viruses, this process naturally takes decades. However, given the speed of spread of this one, some scientists are predicting we get to that point in a matter of a couple years.

Right now, vaccination is the fastest and safest way to get there.

This article sums it up nicely:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/health/coronavirus-immunity-future.amp.html

 

[Pyotr]

Hyping a pandemic?
Let’s be a little more serious than that. We’re in a terrible pandemic.

But there is a light and the end of the tunnel. Vaccines are going out. How about reassuring the public instead of spreading more fear?

Fauci = Everyone get the vaccine and we will get through this.

Gottlieb = Even with the vaccine things are going to get way worse.

 

[gwynne]

But there is a light and the end of the tunnel. Vaccines are going out. How about reassuring the public instead of spreading more fear?

Fauci = Everyone get the vaccine and we will get through this.

Gottlieb = Even with the vaccine things are going to get way worse.

The comments from both doctors are true.
Deaths will continue to increase through Feb per CDC.
As vaccinations become more available we will gradually turn the corner.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

But there is a light and the end of the tunnel. Vaccines are going out. How about reassuring the public instead of spreading more fear?

Fauci = Everyone get the vaccine and we will get through this.

Gottlieb = Even with the vaccine things are going to get way worse.

In a way I agree with this. I'm concerned that people will just throw up their hands and say forget it what's the point as in getting a vaccine. The public's confidence is a really big thing and there's a way to toe the line of being straightforward and making people give up.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

The comments from both doctors are true.
Deaths will continue to increase through Feb per CDC.
As vaccinations become more available we will gradually turn the corner.

But Gottleib isn't really talking about death rates though.

His quote at least one that I found was: "If we can’t get more protective immunity into the population, we could be facing a situation where we have, sort of, a perpetual infection heading into the spring and summer as these variants get a foothold here" and "Gottlieb warned that the variants could transform what could have been a relatively quiet spring and summer, into “a summer where we have more infection because these variants are now circulating and they spread more easily, even in the warm months, when we really shouldn’t have had a lot of coronavirus spreading."

I can see how discussing it this way can be perceived a certain way. Lordy people are already at their wit's end, already at the point of despair and if I was in a place of mental stress that would probably put me over the edge hearing that.

 

[gwynne]

But Gottleib isn't really talking about death rates though.

His quote at least one that I found was: "If we can’t get more protective immunity into the population, we could be facing a situation where we have, sort of, a perpetual infection heading into the spring and summer as these variants get a foothold here" and "Gottlieb warned that the variants could transform what could have been a relatively quiet spring and summer, into “a summer where we have more infection because these variants are now circulating and they spread more easily, even in the warm months, when we really shouldn’t have had a lot of coronavirus spreading."

I can see how discussing it this way can be perceived a certain way. Lordy people are already at their wit's end, already at the point of despair and if I was in a place of mental stress that would probably put me over the edge hearing that.

It's a needed warning. It's why I am onboard with paying people to get the vaccine.

 

[godisney14]

But there is a light and the end of the tunnel. Vaccines are going out. How about reassuring the public instead of spreading more fear?

Fauci = Everyone get the vaccine and we will get through this.

Gottlieb = Even with the vaccine things are going to get way worse.

Both of them are telling the truth.
Some people just can’t handle all of the truth, just what they tolerate or want to believe based on preconceived thoughts. But, that’s also with anything in life.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

It's a needed warning. It's why I am onboard with paying people to get the vaccine.

I don't disagree with warning people, but as I said with my comment to you and the other comment I made to the other poster there are ways to discusses this. It's pretty much like how 2 people could say the same thing but one says it in a certain way that gets received better. I don't know about you but I've been paying attention to how people post and I can see the despair in how people are approaching this and how many of us posters are trying to add a layer of reassurance.

It's a very real concern that you tell people it's still going to be bad like really bad like really really bad this year and they say well what's the point, if the virus keeps mutating and to be more infectious than before what's this vaccine going to do about that? That's why Pfizer and Moderna have come out saying they believe with the testing they've done their vaccines will be okay with the UK variant but oh wait now you've got this other one. I think we just need to be able to understand how others see this. Paying someone is only going to work on people who are needing a push. It's not going to make someone who fails to see the point because it's hopeless because it's still going to be worse than worst.

I'm just saying I get how the comments can be seen a certain way, I'm not disagreeing whatsoever with wanting as many people as we can be vaccinated

 

[aggiedog]

Things will absolutely get worse before they get better because of all the holiday socializing, restrictions of mandates, opening of bars, etc. Hospitals in my area are completely full, ICU's are full, people are dying not only of Covid, but of other issues because they can't get the care they need. It will be an ugly next 6-8 weeks. That needs to be stressed because people need to stay the heck at home and wear their masks.

Things will eventually get better as more people get vaccinated. In a year, we'll be at a new "normal" that will allow travel, eating out, and only a very low level of covid cases.

 

[KBoopaloo]

Not sure that this matters all that much since many states seem to be struggling with distributing the vaccines they already have but it does appear to be an issue for some places that had announced expanded vaccination efforts starting in the next week to ten days (like Oregon) or states that were expecting additional vaccines as reward for moving quickly (like West Virginia and Connecticut).

https://twitter.com/x/status/1350097480642424836

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Things will absolutely get worse before they get better because of all the holiday socializing, restrictions of mandates, opening of bars, etc.

At least with Gottleib he's talking about the mutations.

All your stuff is a different conversation entirely and wasn't the topic of present discussion. Plus many areas already have bars open, less restrictions, etc and have been that way for many months now. Holidays is the commonality.