CDC Director: Impending Doom

[Alicefan]

As for the human foetus objection, I personally see that as being no different to an organ donation. If I needed a transplant, I'd happy accept an organ from anybody regardless, so as long as the organ is suitable. If I accepted a vaccine that was derived from a human foetus, then likewise, I wouldn't mind. Again, it all boils down to the common weal of humankind and scientific progress. The objectors need to face up to the facts: if they continue to object, then we'd be stuck in this mess for a very very long time.

But yet all of the people that question the vaccine are selfish. Some people are just a little nervous about putting something new and untested into their bodies, it's a simple as that. I mean, they at one point had to pull red m&m's for God's sake for giving you cancer. Why is anyone surprised that there are people that are skeptical when they can't even cure the common cold? I think it's a natural response and not just the pushback of the conservative folks or people trying to be jerks. I blame the thousands of commercials we've seen in our lifetime telling us that if we ever took XYZ medication, we may be entitled to a settlement. For some reason everyone is all mad at everyone else for being leary when this same science being touted as foolproof is the same science that created those drugs that people are being compensated for now. That being said, I'm sure I'll get mine as I want to travel etc...and if I turn into a lizard or something then that will just be par for the course lol. Anyway, I can see both sides of the coin.

 

[mom2rtk]

But yet all of the people that question the vaccine are selfish. Some people are just a little nervous about putting something new and untested into their bodies, it's a simple as that. I mean, they at one point had to pull red m&m's for God's sake for giving you cancer. Why is anyone surprised that there are people that are skeptical when they can't even cure the common cold? I think it's a natural response and not just the pushback of the conservative folks or people trying to be jerks. I blame the thousands of commercials we've seen in our lifetime telling us that if we ever took XYZ medication, we may be entitled to a settlement. For some reason everyone is all mad at everyone else for being leary when this same science being touted as foolproof is the same science that created those drugs that people are being compensated for now. That being said, I'm sure I'll get mine as I want to travel etc...and if I turn into a lizard or something then that will just be par for the course lol. Anyway, I can see both sides of the coin.

I can see both sides of the coin. But I just think we're in extraordinary times and public health requires that we all step out of our comfort zones to end this nightmare.

 

[KingAugie]

I can see both sides of the coin. But I just think we're in extraordinary times and public health requires that we all step out of our comfort zones to end this nightmare.

I think when it comes to an individual's health and safety it's very easy for someone else to tell them they need to step out of their comfort zone.
Maybe we should just respect the fact that people have their reasons for not wanting to rush out and get a vaccine that is not proven to be safe long term. It may very well be in 10 years, but as of now there is zero scientific data to prove it is. If we are going to "follow the science" then there should be no pushback from people who actually want to wait for that science.

 

[mom2rtk]

I think when it comes to an individual's health and safety it's very easy for someone else to tell them they need to step out of their comfort zone.
Maybe we should just respect the fact that people have their reasons for not wanting to rush out and get a vaccine that is not proven to be safe long term. It may very well be in 10 years, but as of now there is zero scientific data to prove it is. If we are going to "follow the science" then there should be no pushback from people who actually want to wait for that science.

Just like we respected the private reasons people had to leave homes to earn a living? I thought we were supposed to be "all in this together"?

That said, I'm generally not in favor of vaccine mandates. I'd just like to hope enough people will follow through the theme of all being in this together to get the vaccine if they are medically able to do so. Otherwise we'll never reach the level we need to protect those who are truly unable to do so.

 

[RamblingMad]

Just like we respected the private reasons people had to leave homes to earn a living? I thought we were supposed to be "all in this together"?

That said, I'm generally not in favor of vaccine mandates. I'd just like to hope enough people will follow through the theme of all being in this together to get the vaccine if they are medically able to do so. Otherwise we'll never reach the level we need to protect those who are truly unable to do so.

This is why we have regulations. You can’t expect people to always do the right thing. I doubt we’ll reach herd immunity without a mandate.

 

[charmed59]

This is why we have regulations. You can’t expect people to always do the right thing. I doubt we’ll reach herd immunity without a mandate.

Unfortunately, with the increase of the new highly contagious variants, it looks like we will reach herd immunity, just not necessarily by vaccinating everyone.

 

[godisney14]

I’m just going to say this because some of the discussions on this board have been silly to say the least.

People who argued about being told to wear a mask have no right arguing about others not wanting to get a vaccine right away. Vice versa. Same goes with any other precautions and preventative measures.

 

[godisney14]

Researchers are still trying to understand what happened to herd immunity in Manaus, Brazil.

 

[KingAugie]

Just like we respected the private reasons people had to leave homes to earn a living? I thought we were supposed to be "all in this together"?

That said, I'm generally not in favor of vaccine mandates. I'd just like to hope enough people will follow through the theme of all being in this together to get the vaccine if they are medically able to do so. Otherwise we'll never reach the level we need to protect those who are truly unable to do so.

I'm not sure the point you are trying to make here.

I also hope enough people will get the vaccine but I'm not about to shame people for not doing it.