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something some of you might enjoy, and some of you might hate knowing.

http://www.disneydreamer.com/Waltcheck.htm

Walt was a Rep.
I am well aware that Walt was a rep... he was a 50's conservative. He was also a smoker, staunch backstabbing anti-communist and a bit of of an anti-semite and a racist, but what does that have to do with anything? The Republican party of Walt's day is a completely different animal than the one we have today. Walt was a product of his upbringing. I respect the man for his talents, for his creations, and for the legacy he left behind in the offerings from the company that bears his name, but not for much else.
 
First off, I don't think you can compare killing an unborn baby to a 2nd marriage, but that is a different debate.

I could totally be wrong here, since I fell off the Catholic wagon a few years ago, but I seem to recall that in God's eyes, sin is sin. There aren't degrees of sin. It's all equally wrong. So for anyone who is a Christian Republican to claim that McCain's adultery and subsequent marriage to his mistress is less of a problem than abortion.. well, that's just hypocritical. :confused3

What I am saying is, as a catholic, how can you support someone who thinks abortion is ok? You asked a question from a question.

The problem here is that Republicans think Obama and all of his supporters are FANS of abortions. Come on, people, no one thinks abortions are awesome and everyone should get one. Pro-choice does NOT equal Pro-abortion! What is so difficult to understand about that? I simply do not want the government or anyone else to decide what goes on in my uterus.
 
I thought I had heard there were issues with being Catholic and the POTUS b/c of the abortion issue amongst other things that jive completely against the Church's stance. I seem to remember when Kerry was running, people were concerned if he would vote against the Church and Pro-Choice, and could be ex-communicated?:confused3 Not trying to start anything, I just remember a story on NPR about it.

Yeah there was an issue about that. I believe that there might have been bishops who threatened to not give communion to Kerry because of it. Not sure about the ex-communicated thing.

Strangely this issue only comes up regarding support for abortion--not for support for any of the other issues that the church is against.

And it hasn't been an issue yet for pro-choice republicans so far as I know. Various bishops have expressed disapproval for Guliani's position on abortion, but I don't know of any threats to deny him communion.
 
What I am saying is, as a catholic, how can you support someone who thinks abortion is ok?

Because we're smart enough to know that holy mother church isn't always right.

I sure as hell don't agree with the Church's consent of the slave trade, it's policies of non-involvement during the holocaust, and especially not with the sexual scandals that the church did little to stop. But that doesn't mean that I deny the good that comes from the charitable works that the Catholic Church has done, nor the efforts from the Vatican in preserving work of cultural and historic significance through it's vast art restoration departments.
 

Yeah there was an issue about that. I believe that there might have been bishops who threatened to not give communion to Kerry because of it. Not sure about the ex-communicated thing.

Strangely this issue only comes up regarding support for abortion--not for support for any of the other issues that the church is against.

And it hasn't been an issue yet for pro-choice republicans so far as I know. Various bishops have expressed disapproval for Guliani's position on abortion, but I don't know of any threats to deny him communion.

Thanks. I remembered something being said. I wonder if this would effect Biden as well?:confused3
 
something some of you might enjoy, and some of you might hate knowing.

http://www.disneydreamer.com/Waltcheck.htm

Walt was a Rep.

I did not got to the link...but why would it bother me to know walt disney was a repubican???:confused3
My dear father was one too....and I love him dearly??? ( as are many of my friends and family...we also have independants /third parties and i even know an anarchist....ETC.)
Do you not have any loved ones/friends who are of a different affiliation than you??:confused3
 
Ask around your parish. You'll be surprised.

I'm sure there may be some....that just won't admit it. There is no defense for Obama's stance on abortion. IMHO

I also don't support the death penalty. I am pro-life....period.
 
I'm sure there may be some....that just won't admit it. There is no defense for Obama's stance on abortion. IMHO

I also don't support the death penalty. I am pro-life....period.

Just curious then - do you not vote for pro death penalty candidates?
 
Practicing RC for McCain/Palin.

The problem I have is, how can someone who is Cath, be pro-choice? Isn't that basically something the JC would not approve of? How can you just pick and say...well, JC says abortion isn't right, but, I will just overlook that little fact because I want to? Isn't that hypocritical?

Along the same lines, as a Catholic, how can you support a party that wages questionable wars that kill thousands of people, neglects the environment (a big issue with the Vatican these days), and turns its back on the poor? :confused:
 
Practicing RC for McCain/Palin.

The problem I have is, how can someone who is Cath, be pro-choice? Isn't that basically something the JC would not approve of? How can you just pick and say...well, JC says abortion isn't right, but, I will just overlook that little fact because I want to? Isn't that hypocritical?

Here's another practicing Catholic voting for Obama. A book I would recommend to help you understand is called What Jesus Meant by Garry Wills. In it, he points out that, 2000 or so years ago, the people were looking to Jesus to become a political leader, but he left politics to Caesar, Pontius Pilate, etc. He came to change the individual heart, not to establish an earthly government. I vote for the laws and candidates that seem most fair, that best protect creation (no "drill, baby, drill"), and that I feel best protect our rights. I am personally anti-abortion; I have told my young adult children (and nieces and nephews) from an early age that, if any of them had an unplanned pregnancy, I would gladly raise their child as my own. But I know not everyone has that option in their lives, and would not vote to force someone else to give birth. It is a hugely personal decision. I give to charities that help in crisis pregnancies, vote for just wages and health coverage for children, and vote similarly on other issues that support families of all types. That's how I make my political decisions.

According to the Catholic Church Jesus also doesn't approve of remarriage after a divorce. Is it hypocritical, then, for Catholics to support laws which allow a second civil marriage without a Catholic annulment of the first marriage? Isn't it then also hypocritical for a Catholic to vote for McCain?
Amen.

Yeah there was an issue about that. I believe that there might have been bishops who threatened to not give communion to Kerry because of it. Not sure about the ex-communicated thing.

Strangely this issue only comes up regarding support for abortion--not for support for any of the other issues that the church is against.

And it hasn't been an issue yet for pro-choice republicans so far as I know. Various bishops have expressed disapproval for Guliani's position on abortion, but I don't know of any threats to deny him communion.

And I've noticed that I never hear about the Church denying Communion to governors who carry out the death penalty. How is that justified?

Oh, I almost forgot to add, my mom, who is a devout Catholic, married 58 years, 6 kids (though I'm the favorite), active in her parish for many years, and a registered Republican, has a big Obama for President sign in her front yard. So there's another Catholic mama for Obama!
 
I'm a practicing, never-miss-Mass, Godmother of 6, 12 year Catholic-school attendee voting for Obama.

And so are 5 of my siblings.

Obama/Biden '08!
 
12 years of Catholic education, former altar boy, pro-choice, pro-gay rights and PROBAMA

Same here. I got 13 years Catholic education (kinder!), I was an alter girl, pro-choice, pro-gay rights and Obama.. :thumbsup2
 
Another Catholic for Obama. There are many Catholics with "liberal" leanings, for me, I know it's the compassion I've been taught in the Church. The commitment we have to each other to take care of one another,etc.
 
I dont know how a practicing Catholic can vote for a ticket that is pro late term abortion. The only anti gay (it didnt appear radical...anti gay, just stated a stand on the issue) image I got from the video was that the church does not endorse same sex marriage...again, that is the truth.

Practicing Catholic....McCain/Palin!! I personally don't know any practicing Catholics voting Obama.

I don't know how a practicing Catholic could consider voting for a ticket the endorses a war that has killed thousands innocent men, women and children in Iraq.


Sorry for the sarcasm but is killing in war really less a sin than not wanting to deprive an adult the right to make a decision they will have to live with for the rest of their life?

Obama doesn't seem to be pro-abortion as much as not encouraging legislating morality... which in reality, doesn't work anyway.

This election has to be about the big picture. Isn't it American conceit to believe because we started a war God must be on our side? It seems to me God hates war for any reason.
And please no Old Testament "God told people to go to war" comments. I don't think we can rationalize this war as a God inspired righteous one.
 
Practicing Catholic....McCain/Palin!! I personally don't know any practicing Catholics voting Obama.

:thumbsup2 Practicing Catholic voting for McCain/Palin in a blue state no less!

All my Catholic family and friends are also voting for McCain. :thumbsup2
 
No need to get hung up on the abortion issue. There are No "greater sins"...just a sin. Abortion, Murder, Suicide, Adultery, Pre-Marital Sex are all JUDGED THE SAME according to the bible and the Catholic faith.

I was raised a Roman Catholic, I am no longer practicing (not that the church wants me...I'm divorced from a abuser, and therefore not worthy of the church). However, the rest of my practicing Roman Catholic family is voting for Obama.

Abortion isn't the only issue.
 

I don't know how a practicing Catholic could consider voting for a ticket the endorses a war that has killed thousands innocent men, women and children in Iraq.


Sorry for the sarcasm but is killing in war really less a sin than not wanting to deprive an adult the right to make a decision they will have to live with for the rest of their life?

Obama doesn't seem to be pro-abortion as much as not encouraging legislating morality... which in reality, doesn't work anyway.

This election has to be about the big picture. Isn't it American conceit to believe because we started a war God must be on our side? It seems to me God hates war for any reason.
And please no Old Testament "God told people to go to war" comments. I don't think we can rationalize this war as a God inspired righteous one.

There has been war since the beginning of time.....and there will always be war. If you only pick and choose what part of the bible you agree with...so be it....it's your right.

I think it odd that the ones that don't want the government to legislate morality.....are the same ones that feel that it's okay to legislate immorality.:confused3
 
I think it odd that the ones that don't want the government to legislate morality.....are the same ones that feel that it's okay to legislate immorality.:confused3

How about hands off on morality. Let society, and not the government, dictate what's moral and whats immoral.
 


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