Casey Anthony Trial Thread #3

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anyone think this guy is getting paid per minute on the stand????

spit it out buddy
 
I think this kid keeps laughing and smiling because he is so nervous. I cannot get the DVR to work...did he do this earlier when JB was questioning him?

I wouldn't want to be an expert witness with Ashton cross examing me...
 

can we make a judgement call that if cloriform will knock out a person that it would prob kill a bug

and that the scent of it would keep bugs away until it goes away

is that a posibility?
 
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Wow! This thread is motoring. You guys are really chatty. :surfweb: Time to change to HLN...



i'm on HLN - at least they are sticking their commercials in when someone is looking up info so i'm not missing too much but i missed casey's death stare at ashton
 
The paper towels had the scent of human decamp which make the rest of the trash smell
 
ok seriously - who in that family spits tobacco??

this is the first i've heard of it being in the garbage/trash bag and now he's saying there were "cans" of it??

that's just disgusting
 
Bug guy has a wedding ring on.....:confused3;)
 
I would pay big bucks to see that. I am sure Baez is looking at this and realizing Casey would be toast up there.
That's what the InSession people were saying. Casey Jordan said that the chance of her testifying just dropped 50%.
OH ok, I can't listen anymore.... poor kid!
It's giving me a stomach ache!
I love Jeff Ashton! :goodvibes
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I would give anything (well, except my kids..maybe) to see that! Makes me giddy just thinking about it
Hope you're not in Italy if/when Casey testifies! Sure, vacations in Italy are nice and all...;) (So I've heard...my experience is just the Italy Pavilion in Epcot.)
OMG did you just see the look that Casey gave Ashton when he said let's say the body was put in the trunk ALIVE. Reaction. :( Shudder.
Missed it! What'd she do?
Wow! This thread is motoring. You guys are really chatty. :surfweb:
It was slow in the morning, with Baez was questioning him. Ashton comes in, and testimony is a-hopping!
 
ok seriously - who in that family spits tobacco??

this is the first i've heard of it being in the garbage/trash bag and now he's saying there were "cans" of it??

that's just disgusting

Did Casey's boyfriend chew? Ashton just slammed him...how can you tell from a picture. And now Ashton is pulling out the actual cans...holy moly.
 
ohhhhhhhkay - so "someone" spit tobacco juice in a pop bottle and tightened the lid on it - i can totally see maggots getting in there:rolleyes1:rolleyes1


and now he's saying the pop cans were used - ok that makes more sense BUT did anyone do a DNA test on them to see who it was from?

was this someone casey knew or was it a random bag of garbage/trash she grabbed and put into the trunk to try to cover up the stentch of her decomposing child?
 
And THIS, Mr. Baez, is how you cross-examine! Sadly, I just can't enjoy it because , in reality, there was a little girl wrapped in that blanket....

I can take great joy in it because "experts" like this will help convict Casey. Without Ashton's harsh cross-examination, the jury may have walked away thinking this guy disputed everything the state has been saying.
 
JA on the attack!!

Gets Witness says that body moved during the early stages of decay

How many days does it take to go thru early stages of decay==Witness basically says no clue

Avg temp minus Minimum base temp--determines what accumulated degree
temperature is

2 days at 90 degrees AT--would be 180 degrees ADT

Witness says how long before body moved to Suburban was within 2 or 3 days of death based on current temperature of 95 degrees

And that body consistent with having been at site since that time

Body was moved late in feeding stage of maggots-early maggots had left the body already or maggots were removed from the body then body transported or body placed into bags then moved

JA asks if he's forgetting 4th reason and that if body may have been inaccessible--Witness says it had to have been accessible at some time

JA holds up pig picture and asked how long the bugs took to appear--Witness says they don't appear all at once

Witness asked to read from Haskells report about early bug colonizers---reduced # of colonizers was in an area where colonizers would be excluded-- JA asks Do you take issue with what Haskell says?

Witness says Depends on environmental conditions--JA is anything different about environmental conditions--Witness ..no

JA Would place body held smell...it would stink---Witness yes
JA you wouldn't be able to get the stink out---Yes
JA you can't clean it out you can't get it out--Yes
JA smell of decomp is recognizable--Yes

When you examined Sunfire-- did you examine it in July 2010 more than 2 years after--the liner had been removed--garbage had been removed

SIDEBAR called by JB


Back from Sidebar

JA when you examined the trunk it smelled right--yes could've been garbage
JA when would you think garbage would still smell 2 years later--dont leave garbage in trunk


When were you hired--Dec 2009
JA when did you do this experiment--Sep 2010
JA did you do this experiment for the defense--No
JA discuss with defense you were going to do this experiment--yes
Witness says he did this for himself not specifically modeled on this case
JA how many cases have you worked on case with a body in the trunk--None
JA so all this experimenting has no bearing
JA how many cases involve children--None
how many cases involve children wrapped in blankets--None
how many cases involve children wrapped in blankets stuffed in garbage bags--None
how many cases involve children wrapped in blankets stuffed in garbage bags
stuffed in a laundry bag--None

JA why didn't you wrap your pigs in a blanket--LOL

JA you only included 1 barrier--Witness says even if he did that flies would still have penetrated trunk
JA did any of the studies you looked at have bodies wrapped up--Witness yes1 case it involved a homicide(Snicker..lol)

JA you just told the jury based on that 1 study that bugs couldn't get to the body--Witness sorry not my intent to do that

JA have you done any experiments on chloroform with bugs--No
JA chloroform used to kill bugs right--Yes
JA if chloroform in trunk what affect would it have on early colonizers--Don't know but level would have to be high
JA if you change the air you change the attraction for the bugs--Bugs would still be attracted
JA you acknowledge theres no study that youre basing that on--I find it unlikely what youre suggesting
JA what I'm suggesting is that the chemical content was changed and you just dont know what if any affect that would have do you--Flies dont smell odor the same way you and I do..changing the content of the air the chmicals..you would have to replace the volatiles the flys are attracted to to change their attractivness
JA you will acknowledge there is no study on this--yes


JA paper towels...what was on them---I dont know
JA you never read a report?--witness refers to report..fatty acids such as the ones detected indicated adopecere
JA any reason to dispute the findings--No
JA tell the jury what it is--decomposition
JA would flies be attracted--yes
JA but you think the were attracted to tobaco spit-I don't know if spit was a "liitle bit" the presence of flies on paper towels not something youd expect to find if towels had adopocere
JA showing pic of container of spit

Witness says 4 or 5 cans were used as a spitoon
JA asks how you can tell from this photo
Witness says he cant he has a photo of the tops of the cans

Ja says well we have those items here and proceeds to rip open a box with the cans in it!!!
 
Man Ashton is going at it today, this is such a contrast of what Baez did on cross, it's crazy.
 
So Bug Guy made all these conclusions on staining by a photo?

Nobody will ever want to be a witness for BOZO......he put this guy our to dry.
 
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