Casey Anthony TRIAL thread #2

[CurlyGirl]

So Casey was lucky enough to be found by someone who was willing to go along with such a story?

Remember, the jury needs "reasonable" doubt. Not "it's so far out there but it could've happened" doubt.

You never know what people will do for money and fame ...
And, she might've said "You could be implicated in this, you know. I could say you did this. What proof do you have that you didnt do it?" Who knows. She could've said that George would come after him and shoot him if he told. could've said that George was in LE and would be able to frame him. She's lied enough to everyone else, why not lie and throw some threats around to Kronk? She might've said "Who would believe you?" Who knows with la loca!!

 

[sbtrfly74]

George Anthony's attorney on HLN now and stating he does not know this surprise witness Vasco Thompson. This guy is probably looking for his 15mins of fame!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Is it entirely possible that Kronk stumbled upon Casey with dead Caylee and Casey said "You didn't see this. Wait awhile then find the body and collect the reward money and if you say something about this, then you'll be an accomplice to murder"? She could've also incriminated him if he chose to say what really happened? Maybe Kronk agrees to do it for reward money, goes to visit Caylee's burial site to make sure she's still there and hidden until he can get someone on the scene?

Then defense should not call him as it implicates his client. If he gets on the stand, and the prosecution can call him as a rebuttal witness. Epic fail on their fault.

 

[CurlyGirl]

She claimed to be an event coordinator at universal which is simply an hourly waged worker. I've done it myself a few times. You don't really "plan' anything. You just set up barriers or ropes in the event area and direct the attendees to the correct area. Or hand out tickets to TNA/Impact wrestling events, etc. I work in guest services and have helped out as an event coordinator several times. It's hardly a glamourous job. It is step up from taking the photos for Color-Vision though which was where she worked before Caylee was born.

Aaah ... I see. When I hear event coordinator, I think planning big events/parties for the park. Kind of like a wedding coordinator but for big non-wedding events. Maybe like planning MNSSHP or MVMCP or a movie premiere or something like that!

 

[LisaR]

I'm like you. I don't buy the motive that Casey didn't get along with her mom or, that she just wanted to be unburdened by Caylee. It would have been so much easier for Casey to just walk away from Cindy and Caylee if that was the case.

I am one of those people that just can't take things at face value. I look for other possibilities. In fact, I probably go to far, but until I get concrete evidence of something, I can't let go of other possibilities.

For example, when I served on a jury for a domestic abuse case, I just couldn't accept the state's position that the defendant just decided to stab his brother-in-law. In made no sense to me. Upon examining the evidence during deliberation, I discovered, in the medical records of the victim, that the stab wound was only a half inch deep and at an odd angle. That made no sense if someone was really trying to hurt someone. In the end, I presented my position on what had actually happened. I concluded that the victim actually ran into the knife the defendant was holding (he had been peeling an apple for his daughter) at the time the victim jumped on him. The defense did not explore this as a possible option. The other jurors thought it made sense and we found the defendant not guilty.

So, I take things a bit further than most. Of course, I could be totally off base, but I can't help but wonder. What were both Casey and George doing when Caylee was supposed to have drown that morning? What could be the reason that they could not just admit that they weren't paying attention and she got into the pool? What could be so terrible that they were afraid to call 911 to report the drowning? What terrible secret could come out? Could there be more to the relationship of George and Casey? Casey has hinted at abuse. Was there really abuse? Was it consensual...if it happened at all?

Of course, this is totally off the wall. And, I will admit that I don't care for George Anthony. Maybe, I am just twisted and need to write crime novels.

Knowing what you know about Casey's personality, don't you think Casey would have pinned this on George from the get go? I can't believe Casey would spend 3 years in jail for her father or for anyone else. Even if she didn't think there would be any proof that she was (consensually or not) engaging in sex with her dad, don't you think those would have been the first words out of her mouth when they arrested her instead of waiting years to come up with this story?

 

[Kurby]

that's what i thought too and i'll bet dollars for donuts that's exactly how she played if off.

no doubt she mad it sound much better then it was (well which was nothing since she DIDN`T WORK THERE) lol

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I am betting that Linda K Baden was off the defense team before the drowning story came about. She is being a defense mad dog right now with Vinnie on HLN.

Do not like that Mason referred to Caylee as "the child". Is that standard or is that a strategy to objectify Caylee so that she isn't a person. Very weird to me.

 

[Mosoh]

Is it entirely possible that Kronk stumbled upon Casey with dead Caylee and Casey said "You didn't see this. Wait awhile then find the body and collect the reward money and if you say something about this, then you'll be an accomplice to murder"? She could've also incriminated him if he chose to say what really happened? Maybe Kronk agrees to do it for reward money, goes to visit Caylee's burial site to make sure she's still there and hidden until he can get someone on the scene?

He called 911, not the number offering the reward. He never got it. I think if he was that clever he would have known what number to call

 

[CurlyGirl]

He called 911, not the number offering the reward. He never got it. I think if he was that clever he would have known what number to call

Honestly, dude does not look like the brightest bulb on the porch!

And, if he's not that brilliant, perhaps he did discover Casey with dead Caylee and fell for her threats?

Why is it that I always picture Yzma's sidekick from "The Emperor's New Groove" when I read his name!? Roy Kronk seems just as bright as that Kronk!

 

[sbtrfly74]

He called 911, not the number offering the reward. He never got it. I think if he was that clever he would have known what number to call

Didn't the 911 operator or someone kept putting him off saying the area had already been searched? Why didn't the police send someone out like they did in December? The defense is going to use the fact that he said he used his meter reader tool and poked the bag and the skull rolled out to their benefit... but maybe that was said to actually get the cops to show up.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

"That Doesn't make any sense at all to me" : said by Casey (approximation from lip reading)

Said immediately after Dr G made her statement about no reason for a parent who has a legal/moral/? Obligation to care for that child.

Interesting. I am sure she is responding to the whole context of 'why homicide?', but interesting timing on her part. Subliminal?


Also judge Alex, on HLN just said that Mason made an error about questioning Dr G about COD. Can't remember how Judge Alex explained it--but that it should have been saved for closing. By doing it on the stand with DR G, he opened the door for her dispute and driving in all those circumstances.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

George Anthony's attorney on HLN now and stating he does not know this surprise witness Vasco Thompson. This guy is probably looking for his 15mins of fame!

The witness is being called by the defense (and has said he doesn't know George)...it's not the witness putting himself out there.

I am betting that Linda K Baden was off the defense team before the drowning story came about. She is being a defense mad dog right now with Vinnie on HLN.

Do not like that Mason referred to Caylee as "the child". Is that standard or is that a strategy to objectify Caylee so that she isn't a person. Very weird to me.

CANNOT STAND LINDA KENNY BADEN. Her shrieky barking goes right through me. Couldn't stand her from the time of the Phil Spector murder trial, which by the way, her husband was a defense witness. "He was reportedly paid $250,000. Baden's wife was legal co-counsel for Spector at the time."

 

[Mosoh]

Honestly, dude does not look like the brightest bulb on the porch!

And, if he's not that brilliant, perhaps he did discover Casey with dead Caylee and fell for her threats?

Why is it that I always picture Yzma's sidekick from "The Emperor's New Groove" when I read his name!? Roy Kronk seems just as bright as that Kronk!

I doubt Casey could wrap everyone around her finger like she did her family

 

[Mosoh]

Didn't the 911 operator or someone kept putting him off saying the area had already been searched? Why didn't the police send someone out like they did in December? The defense is going to use the fact that he said he used his meter reader tool and poked the bag and the skull rolled out to their benefit... but maybe that was said to actually get the cops to show up.

I think they will try, but I have a hard time making him a villain in all this

 

[CurlyGirl]

I doubt Casey could wrap everyone around her finger like she did her family

Threatening him is not wrapping him around your finger ....

 

[woodkins]

I'm like you. I don't buy the motive that Casey didn't get along with her mom or, that she just wanted to be unburdened by Caylee. It would have been so much easier for Casey to just walk away from Cindy and Caylee if that was the case.

I am one of those people that just can't take things at face value. I look for other possibilities. In fact, I probably go to far, but until I get concrete evidence of something, I can't let go of other possibilities.

For example, when I served on a jury for a domestic abuse case, I just couldn't accept the state's position that the defendant just decided to stab his brother-in-law. In made no sense to me. Upon examining the evidence during deliberation, I discovered, in the medical records of the victim, that the stab wound was only a half inch deep and at an odd angle. That made no sense if someone was really trying to hurt someone. In the end, I presented my position on what had actually happened. I concluded that the victim actually ran into the knife the defendant was holding (he had been peeling an apple for his daughter) at the time the victim jumped on him. The defense did not explore this as a possible option. The other jurors thought it made sense and we found the defendant not guilty.

So, I take things a bit further than most. Of course, I could be totally off base, but I can't help but wonder. What were both Casey and George doing when Caylee was supposed to have drown that morning? What could be the reason that they could not just admit that they weren't paying attention and she got into the pool? What could be so terrible that they were afraid to call 911 to report the drowning? What terrible secret could come out? Could there be more to the relationship of George and Casey? Casey has hinted at abuse. Was there really abuse? Was it consensual...if it happened at all?
Of course, this is totally off the wall. And, I will admit that I don't care for George Anthony. Maybe, I am just twisted and need to write crime novels.

They weren't doing anything because it didn't happen. There was nothing so terrible not to call 911 because there was no drowning to report. Casey in her own words was acting like a "miserable b-tch" and that is why she wouldn't just walk away from her daughter. Instead she accomplished all of her goals (in her mind), she was free of being a mom, hurt her mother & thought she would get lots of attention and sympathy being the mom of a missing and then murdered child.

Yes, Casey hinted at abuse, she also hinted that she worked at Universal for 2 years, had a nanny named Zeneida, and stole her friends credit cards and checks. And if there WAS any interaction between George and Casey it would be abuse, incest is abuse consentual or not. I don't believe for a minute that it happened. If I was se-ually molested by my father I certainly wouldn't be letting him care for my daughter and be telling him what a great dad he is and telling my brother how much I trust him.

 

[crz4mm2]

I have been thinking of possible career choices when my kids are grown and have crossed meter reader, tow truck driver and event planner at Universal. Too much room for problems.

 

[OhdahLolly]

So, I take things a bit further than most. Of course, I could be totally off base, but I can't help but wonder. What were both Casey and George doing when Caylee was supposed to have drown that morning? What could be the reason that they could not just admit that they weren't paying attention and she got into the pool? What could be so terrible that they were afraid to call 911 to report the drowning? What terrible secret could come out? Could there be more to the relationship of George and Casey? Casey has hinted at abuse. Was there really abuse? Was it consensual...if it happened at all?

Of course, this is totally off the wall. And, I will admit that I don't care for George Anthony. Maybe, I am just twisted and need to write crime novels.

I think they were supposed to be working, werent they?

Honestly, I don't think Cindy had any knowledge or anything to do with Caylees death.

But if you are asking for a reason why they wouldn't want to report it, I suspect it would be because the ME might find other signs of abuse on Caylee? Or find out that she had often had been drugged by Casey or any other substances that should not have been there?

And no, I don't believe that any abuse is consensual, but that might just be me.


Personally I think the defense really screwed the pooch by claiming that Caylee drowned if they are trying to cast anything on Roy Kronk. Aside from the fact that Caylee was dead in Casey's trunk for how many days?

 

[PUZZLDY5]

I have a strange question.
If Casey said she worked at Universal and lied about it for such a long time, where did she get money from? Her parents didn't notice she was broke all the time.
I know that she had fraud charges and stuff but that was later right?
Someone enlighten me please

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Honestly, dude does not look like the brightest bulb on the porch!

And, if he's not that brilliant, perhaps he did discover Casey with dead Caylee and fell for her threats?

And what threats could li'l ol' Casey make towards Kronk, that would compel him to perform a criminal act such as hiding a dead child's body? Is there evidence that their meter was read within those few days?

"That Doesn't make any sense at all to me" : said by Casey (approximation from lip reading)

Said immediately after Dr G made her statement about no reason for a parent who has a legal/moral/? Obligation to care for that child.

Interesting. I am sure she is responding to the whole context of 'why homicide?', but interesting timing on her part. Subliminal?

Is this your lipreading? Or do you have a link to the video or the comments? Interesting.

They weren't doing anything because it didn't happen. There was nothing so terrible not to call 911 because there was no drowning to report. Casey in her own words was acting like a "miserable b-tch" and that is why she wouldn't just walk away from her daughter. Instead she accomplished all of her goals (in her mind), she was free of being a mom, hurt her mother & thought she would get lots of attention and sympathy being the mom of a missing and then murdered child.

Yes, Casey hinted at abuse, she also hinted that she worked at Universal for 2 years, had a nanny named Zeneida, and stole her friends credit cards and checks. And if there WAS any interaction between George and Casey it would be abuse, incest is abuse consentual or not. I don't believe for a minute that it happened. If I was se-ually molested by my father I certainly wouldn't be letting him care for my daughter and be telling him what a great dad he is and telling my brother how much I trust him.

Well, you certainly SOUND like you're making sense. LOL Yup, I agree.