Casey Anthony TRIAL thread #2

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I cn't take credit for finding the "Judge Perry" Tweets. A poster on the other thread started posting them and then I started following him. If I could remember that poster's name I'd give them proper credit.

If he posts more I'll post them. :goodvibes

::waves hi::

Perry and ZannyTheeNanny are cracking me up hardcore.
 
ZannyTheNanny
I know who #CaseyAnthony needs to blame. The TV. It sucks kids in it. Ever see Poltergeist? I rest my case.

ZannyTheNanny
Whenever Baez talks, I swear I hear that teacher from Charlie Brown. Wahwahwah, wahwahwahwah. #CaseyAnthohy


ZannyTheNanny
@SmartAssMadison @pattyanntwittin If the hair don't match, it might be from a snatch! #CaseyAnthony

ZannyTheNanny
Did you know I went to law school with Jose? True story. Hand to God. #CaseyAnthony
 
Video of an appearance by George, Cindy, Lee and Baez back in July 2008 on The Today Show. Interesting to see now.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25780342#25780342

Hmmmm..that was interesting to watch.
It did not sound like the attorney already "knew" caylee was dead, he said that the story would come out, BUT, he also said that she/caylee needs to be at home with her family and that is his focus (and the body was not yet found) ...so IF the baby drowned as they are now alleging the response seems off kilter to me.....and IF George took caylee to bury, then WHY wouldn't the attorney "know" the child is already dead and thus he could have said something different, not intimating that they are "looking for her" ....UNless, he had no idea yet that Casey was going to allege drowning and abuse. The abuse he is now using to garner sympathy to explain why casey is so distant, removed, carefree, non caring, selfish, awful, narcissistic, casual, lying , conniving (oops, appears I digress when I think of synonyms for casey :headache:)
anyhow, that interview is indeed very telling......good "spin: he is using now....we can only hope that the jury sees thru it all and does not get Bored, de-sensitized, sympathetic or "like" Baez, and not get a conviction ...the case has to be focused on that Murdered Child and theatrics, sidebars and personalities aside....a Just verdict will be rendered! My heart is so sad for those grandparents and brother, just awful....beyond words or explanation....:sad1:
 
Wow. Thanks for that link. Enlightening in so many ways. :) Including the fact that I posted on it 23 times. ;)

LOL! I am the same, I don't remember posting all my posts there either :laughing:

Interesting though that there was only 1 hair

Would think there would be a few more - no?

I think the hair was all stuck to the duct tape. :guilty:

Is there a camera on Casey all the time? And if so, link?

I saw that another poster already gave you the link, but did you look at her really closely?

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I don't know if this was discussed, but here goes:

My Mom just asked me about something Jane Cesarez (sp?) mentioned on tv I think yesterday. She said Baez was making googley eyes/flirting with someone up in the balcony during the day yesterday. Anyone know what that is about?


LOL at the thought of Baez flirting and making googly eyes at Geraldo in the balcony :lmao:

i live in canada - so we don't get americal news (except buffalo). anything we get must make it's way to the national news and they are the ones who deem it news worthy or worth reapeating over and over.

i never heard of websluths before and still haven't gone onto that site.

There are many Canadian cases over there on WS that you might like to view and comment on. They like people to read through the missing persons cases with "fresh eyes" to see if anything stands out that should be mentioned, though they are so good there (and here!) that I usually think of something that has already been asked and answered long ago :cutie:

i wonder.......

how many of us could pass the bar after this case LOL

I can almost 100% bet that Casey thinks she could :rotfl2:
 

I wonder if there have been other experiments of that smell that was put in a can and then later on if it was opened.

Hopefully it will be the same as what Dr Vass said he smelled pre-trial (and need to keep in mind he has smelled many dead bodies):

Dr. Arpad Vass of the Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee discussed his reaction to opening a can containing a carpet sample from Anthony’s car.

“First I jumped back about two feet,” Vass said.

Anthony looked up from her notes and quickly gazed at Vass.

“It was, to me, the smell of human decomposition,” Vass continued.

WFTV’s Kathi Belich called it “a bombshell that got even Casey’s attention.”

WESH -Channel 2’s Amanda Ober replayed the scene in the station’s 4 p.m. newscast. “Vass said over his career he’s personally overseen studies on at least 50 decomposing bodies and is intimately familiar with the unique odor,” Ober reported.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Ober also highlighted Vass’ testimony that chloroform detected in the trunk carpet was 10,000 times greater than what would found in a controlled sample.

“As an attorney that had a powerful effect on me,” WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said. “That’s going to have even a greater effect on a juror when they hear that.”


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...t-memorable-moment-of-day.html/comment-page-1
 
i think they would be taking a HUGE risk opening a can of "smell"

what happenes if after 3 years the smell is gone - or not as powerful or not the same and just smells like bad food or something.

it's never been done before - are they really sure they want to be the first??
 
::waves hi::

Perry and ZannyTheeNanny are cracking me up hardcore.

Glad you saw my post. :thumbsup2 I don't like to credit for what isn't mine to take.


ZannyTheNanny
I know who #CaseyAnthony needs to blame. The TV. It sucks kids in it. Ever see Poltergeist? I rest my case.

ZannyTheNanny
Whenever Baez talks, I swear I hear that teacher from Charlie Brown. Wahwahwah, wahwahwahwah. #CaseyAnthohy


ZannyTheNanny
@SmartAssMadison @pattyanntwittin If the hair don't match, it might be from a snatch! #CaseyAnthony

ZannyTheNanny
Did you know I went to law school with Jose? True story. Hand to God. #CaseyAnthony

:lmao::lmao:

Now I'll have to follow ZannyTheNanny too!!

Thanks!! :goodvibes
 
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“It was, to me, the smell of human decomposition,” Vass continued.


now you all recall the urban legend
there was a guy....... who wanted to sell this great car for cheap
but no one would buy it 'cause someone died in it.

remember the mythbusters did a show on that. put in a pig that eventually exploded.
they could NOT get rid of the smell. it even went into the metal.
btw, has there been any thoughts to how long caylee;s body was actually left in the trunk before she dumped it?

oh did you guys catch geraldo tonight? they had the bounty hunter who put up casey's bail.. he said, the cops were listening to casey & baez(?) & leaked info to the girlfriend of the meter reader of where to find the body. they said there were NO meters to read in that area,,, so why was he there.

wasn't gonna bother with geraldo, since he keeps insisting there will be a mistrial because of the miranda right stuff.. but he had some other interesting people on.
 
I only believe about .01% of what that bounty hunter, Leonard Padilla???, says. I don't even know WHY the media gives him the time of day. He was on yesterday and he was hacking away and most of what he says I think he makes up as he goes along just like the person does that he is talking about.
 
Check out the different Zanny stories, when it became Jay Blanchard park instead of Sawgrass - torismom003 pointed these out :sad2::

Lee Anthony Deposition in the Civil Case against Casey Anthony
Feb. 27, 2009
Beginning on page 89

Lee: Casey said that she dropped--or she went with Caylee to, to Jay Blanchard Park and she met up with, you know, Zenaida there, 'cause that's where, you know, she told her to meet, you know, to, to get Caylee for the day and Zenaida was there, as well as Zenaida's sister, which I can't remember her name right now, and her two--

Q: But she told you--

Lee: --daughters.

Q: Okay. So--but she told--

Lee: or children.

Q: And Casey told you this?

Lee: Yes.

Q: When?

Lee: When she was out of jail. So if August is right the first time she was out of jail, it was that--during that time.

Q: Okay. Did that story ever change?

Lee: Since that time, no. It's a different story that she gave the police on when she was arrested 'cause she was--told Sawgrass Apartments when she was arrested.

Q: Did you--let me ask you this. What did she tell the police about the last--when she dropped--

Lee: She told police--well, she originally said--I think she said the 9th, but she was wrong on the date--we already talked about that--because my mom had her date wrong it was really the 16th, but--of, of June. But she told the police that she gave Caylee to Zenaida at the bottom of the steps of her apartment at the Sawgrass Apartment.

Q: Why, why do you call it her apartment?

Lee: Zenaida's apartment.

Q: Okay. She told you that Zenaida lived--and she--

Lee: She told the police--this was the story to the police, which she's later said that--I mean, she's gone on record saying that, yeah, I lied to you about that.

Q: Yeah, yeah.

Lee: So--

Q: But the initial story was Zenaida lived at Sawgrass.

Lee: Right.

Q: She took Caylee there--

Lee: Yes.

Q: --dropped her off. And where, where was she going that day? Why did she drop her off?

Lee: She claimed work but--

~skipped to page 93~

Q: Now, let me-- let me--all right. She tells the police she goes to Sawgrass. Then she gets with you after she gets out of jail and she says, look, here's what--here's what really happened.

Lee: Yeah.

Q: What really happened was I went to Blanchard Park. Yes?

Lee: Yes.

Q: I went to Blanchard Park. I met Zenaida Gonzalez there.

Lee: Yes.

Q: She was there with her sister--

Lee: Yes.

Q: and her two children?

Lee: yes.

Q: And I dropped her off--I dropped Caylee off and everything was fine?

Lee: No

Q: No?

Lee: When she--when she came to Blanchard and saw--and saw them--

Q: Have you given this statement to the police, what you're telling me now?

Lee: I don't know.

Q: Okay. Go ahead.

Lee: I don't know. I don't think so.

Q: Okay. It;s the--well, the truth is the truth.

Lee: Either way.

Q: The truth is the truth.

Lee: Right, exactly. Casey said that she was--that she sat down on a bench with Zenaida kindof watching the kids play and whatnot. Zenaida and Casey--like Zenaida and Casey were kind of in a conversation at one point. And she remembers Zenaida grabbing Casey's arm, like forcefully, almost to kind of--like kind of hold her down in a way. And that's when she told her, you know, I'm going to take Caylee from you. You know, I will give her back to you. You can--I will give her back to you but, you know, you need to--you know, you need to follow my instructions. And that's where she made her--you know, her threat that, you know, if you go to the police, I will--you know,I will hurt, you know, your parents, I'll hurt your brother, I'll hurt, you know Caylee. I'll--you know, I'll do whatever. Don't--you know, don't do that. And it was at that point when--you know, and Casey saw whomever the sister, whatever her name was, with the kids walking over--you know, briskly walking over to where their vehicle was parked to leave. And then from that point, then you know, Zenaida left also, but--

Q: Okay. And did Casey tell you why Zenaida was taking her and--

Lee: Well, she just said to, to teach her a lesson.

Q: What lesson?

Lee: I don't know what that lesson is. I don't know. I don't think she--if that was ever relayed to my sister, she never relayed that to me.

Q: Did she tell you then why she told the police a different story than the truth she was now telling you?

Lee: She thought that if she would tell the police something else, that she was still following the, the--what she was told not to do from Zenaida from this whole Timer55 thing about not, not telling the police. That, that you're going to get Caylee back. If you listen to my instructions, no one's going to get hurt. You'll get her back. So she's still, you know--

Q: So the--so the reason she lied to the policce, your understanding, because she feared for Caylee's life, yes?

Lee: Yes.

Q: You life?

Lee: Yes.

Q: Her life?

Lee: Yes.

Q: Your mom and dad's life?

Lee: Yes.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19734530/detail.html

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Casey Anthony Jailhouse Letters to Robyn aka Cookie
page 10

"You want to know something, I know that Caylee's nanny, the "real" Zenaida, the girl who was my friend for 4 years, I know in my heart that she's not responsible. And I don't blame her for not showing her face. Would you want to be sitting here with me for something you didn't do? Considering the circumstances, you technically are and it sucks. And I know this goes without saying, but outside of myself and my legal team, not a soul knows this. I was going to take Caylee and move away. Unfortunately my plans got beyond tangled when Zany wouldn't tell me where she and Cays were. I had asked her to take Cays for a few days so I could put the rest of our stuff together, money I had saved, new clothes, new everything. That's why I waited to report her missing, because she was and wasn't. I would give anything to go back to that day and to not have let Caylee out of my sight."

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069597/detail.html
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George Anthony's FBI interview 7/31/08

Part 3 of 4 starting at 8:55.

"I'm not sure if my wife told you or not. Jay Blanchard Park in Orlando has come up. And supposedly this is a scenerio that Jesse he held my daughter down when someone grabbed my grand daughter. Jay Blanchard Park comes up again. I don't know, I don't know. Do I want to go out there and look and watch, sure. And the Zenaida thing came up. Zenaida supposedly was there with Caylee and Casey. Zenaida held my daughter down and you know her sister Samantha took my grand daughter and left with her. I don't know. This is all just speculation. Names thrown out there. Again what it boils down to is my daughter knows what's going on and she's not saying a word. It boils down to all of that. We keep on going round and round and still the center is right there and it's just frustrating."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XChDuqhbJeQ&feature=player_embedded#at=12
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Rob Dick Interview Part 1

Talking about being in the car with Casey and her asking him about finding Zenaida.

@7:14

Rob: That's when she started with the Blanchard Park story about the change which I had already heard from Leonard (Padilla) and Cindy, you know that changed to, she went to Blanchard Park, went to uh meet Zenaida, Samantha, Samantha's two kids, Caylee's playing with the kids, she's talking to Zenaida and then all of a sudden she see's Caylee and the kids all get into Samantha's car and she said well wait a minute hey what's going on. Caylee, why's Caylee leaving? And uh Zenaida says because we're taking her, holds her back and you're going to say this for the next 30 days. Well, say what? Well she gave me a piece of paper of all these things I'm supposed to say. Well where is that? Oh, I don't have it. Ok, well tell me more about the incident, more about Zenaida. Well, you know is she married? No. She have any kids? No. Well Samantha. Well, I don't know Samantha's last name, I don't think it's the same as Zenaida's. I mean just, she's feeding into this new story that I mean I personally feel is not true, you know. I mean obviously I don't think these people exist. I believe that she's taking pieces of things and putting it together to form this lie. But that's my own thing.
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Ugh. :sad2:
I wonder if it could be Casey changed her story location to Jay Blanchard park because of all the local news reports that the 6/10/2008 Nicole Ganguzza murder there was getting. (Nicole Ganguzza was from NJ, was attending grad school at UCF for family counseling, and was strangled in Blanchard Park after going there to jog).

After all, it was close to the first date Casey used for Caylee being missing, and the news was full of the "Blanchard Park murder". Maybe she realized the Sawgrass story wasn't working out so well :confused:
 
One thing I wonder about that one of you may know--does anybody know who Caylee's father is? I read that her boyfriend Jesse Gund (or is it Grund?) took a paternity test and it wasn't him. I believe I read somewhere that her father and brother were also ruled out.

I wonder if Casey herself even knows.

Click on this link - I always was impressed by this particular photo comparison someone had questioned as a "could it be"?

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s336/starshineinca/caylee.jpg

:surfweb:
 
Has anyone else heard the theories of the bounty hunter Leonard Padilla? He says that Casey would regularly drug Caylee with Xanex pills so that she could go out partying. He says that when Casey ran out of Xanex, she researched how to make chloroform (which was found on the computer hard drive, btw) and accidentally killed Caylee by giving her too much chloroform. Now follow my logic here: "Zannies" is a street name for Xanex, and apparently Casey conjured this nanny up out of thin air. It just sounds eerily possible that Casey used "Zannies" (Xanex) as a nanny for Caylee while she partied and then just comes up with Zanny as the name for the fictitious nanny. Could this all be more than a coincidence?
 
I seen that too about the meter reader knowing where Caylee was due to his girlfriend telling him, I think it was his girlfriend, but she supposedly heard Casey talking with her lawyer or someone and told the meter reader. That guy and his girlfriend wanted either to be known that they found the body or the reward money! Some people!
 
Has anyone else heard the theories of the bounty hunter Leonard Padilla? He says that Casey would regularly drug Caylee with Xanex pills so that she could go out partying. He says that when Casey ran out of Xanex, she researched how to make chloroform (which was found on the computer hard drive, btw) and accidentally killed Caylee by giving her too much chloroform. Now follow my logic here: "Zannies" is a street name for Xanex, and apparently Casey conjured this nanny up out of thin air. It just sounds eerily possible that Casey used "Zannies" (Xanex) as a nanny for Caylee while she partied and then just comes up with Zanny as the name for the fictitious nanny. Could this all be more than a coincidence?

That just sounds all too eery! But seems like it was true! She accidentally gave her too much chloroform and killed her and I think the father knows more about it too along with helping her dispose of the body! He was a cop so he knows what's up!
 
I only believe about .01% of what that bounty hunter, Leonard Padilla???, says. I don't even know WHY the media gives him the time of day.
I have no idea. What are his qualifications, IF ANY? What irks me is when they ask him any questions beyond what he may have actually observed, or what one of his people observed. Like his ideas on theories or legal issues. Who cares what he has to say??
Ugh. :sad2:
I wonder if it could be Casey changed her story location to Jay Blanchard park because of all the local news reports that the 6/10/2008 Nicole Ganguzza murder there was getting. (Nicole Ganguzza was from NJ, was attending grad school at UCF for family counseling, and was strangled in Blanchard Park after going there to jog).

After all, it was close to the first date Casey used for Caylee being missing, and the news was full of the "Blanchard Park murder". Maybe she realized the Sawgrass story wasn't working out so well :confused:
Thanks for posting that. (Who is torinsmom003?) Didn't want to quote it all! I have to wonder...since Casey seems to pull from something she knows to spin her stories...if there's some truth to the "holding her down" story. Except that it was her doing it to Caylee. Even the drowning story I can believe...except for George being involved. Sort of like in the movie "Psycho" (just sayin' :rolleyes1) where Anthony Perkins' character's mother is yelling at him; the drowning happened, and in her head, Casey is hearing George say those things. Or, she knowingly spun the story based on what she felt she knew George would say.

I hate to say this, but I'm finding Casey crazier and crazier, and I wonder if all this craziness is going to sway the jury into deciding "not guilty."
Click on this link - I always was impressed by this particular photo comparison someone had questioned as a "could it be"?

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s336/starshineinca/caylee.jpg

:surfweb:
Oh. My. Goodness. ???????? But who is that?? (Should I know this??)
Has anyone else heard the theories of the bounty hunter Leonard Padilla? He says that Casey would regularly drug Caylee with Xanex pills so that she could go out partying.
Yes, we have. Lots of discussion about that, since Caylee went missing. For more info, you can search this or the previous thread, or the one from 2008.
I seen that too about the meter reader
Welcome to the DIS. :goodvibes
 
Has anyone else heard the theories of the bounty hunter Leonard Padilla? He says that Casey would regularly drug Caylee with Xanex pills so that she could go out partying. He says that when Casey ran out of Xanex, she researched how to make chloroform (which was found on the computer hard drive, btw) and accidentally killed Caylee by giving her too much chloroform. Now follow my logic here: "Zannies" is a street name for Xanex, and apparently Casey conjured this nanny up out of thin air. It just sounds eerily possible that Casey used "Zannies" (Xanex) as a nanny for Caylee while she partied and then just comes up with Zanny as the name for the fictitious nanny. Could this all be more than a coincidence?

I don't buy it for multiple reasons:

1. I don't believe anything that comes out of the mouth of Padilla.

2. Where was Casey leaving Caylee after drugging her? In her car at a nightclub? I can't believe nobody noticed a passed out little body in a car. In the trunk? I think Caylee would have been scared if she was being locked in a trunk regularly and wouldn't have been the incredibly happy girl that we have seen pictures and videos of. In one of her friend's apartments? I think most of these people can't stand Casey now and one would have come clean and said what they suspected Casey was doing to Caylee.

3. It would take a lot of Xanax to knock someone out for most of the night. I know Caylee was just a baby but still, she would have to have the right dosage to keep her out like a light or she risked Caylee wandering out of the car or apartment in a drug induced fog. Xanax can make someone tired but it isn't a sleeping pill.

4. George and Cindy spent more time with Caylee than anyone. I find it hard to believe they wouldn't notice their granddaughter was under the influence a good deal of the time.

5. Casey didn't pull the name Zanny out of thin air. Zanaida went to the same apartment complex Casey went to with her boyfriend to look for a place to live. Zanaida filled out an information card and that is where Casey came up with the name.

Obviously, this is just my opinion. I could be wrong. I doubt we will ever get the real truth anyway.
 
Obviously, this is just my opinion. I could be wrong. I doubt we will ever get the real truth anyway.

If there is anything at all, in this entire mess, that I believe 100%, its the bolded. The only person knows the whole story is completely incapable of telling the truth, so we will never really know.

In the words of Judge Strickland (the first judge on the case) at the time he set her bond...."Not a bit of useful information has been provided by Ms. Anthony as to the whereabouts of her daughter, And I would add that the truth and Ms. Anthony are strangers."
 
I don't buy it for multiple reasons:

1. I don't believe anything that comes out of the mouth of Padilla.

2. Where was Casey leaving Caylee after drugging her? In her car at a nightclub? I can't believe nobody noticed a passed out little body in a car. In the trunk? I think Caylee would have been scared if she was being locked in a trunk regularly and wouldn't have been the incredibly happy girl that we have seen pictures and videos of. In one of her friend's apartments? I think most of these people can't stand Casey now and one would have come clean and said what they suspected Casey was doing to Caylee.

3. It would take a lot of Xanax to knock someone out for most of the night. I know Caylee was just a baby but still, she would have to have the right dosage to keep her out like a light or she risked Caylee wandering out of the car or apartment in a drug induced fog. Xanax can make someone tired but it isn't a sleeping pill.

4. George and Cindy spent more time with Caylee than anyone. I find it hard to believe they wouldn't notice their granddaughter was under the influence a good deal of the time.

5. Casey didn't pull the name Zanny out of thin air. Zanaida went to the same apartment complex Casey went to with her boyfriend to look for a place to live. Zanaida filled out an information card and that is where Casey came up with the name.

Obviously, this is just my opinion. I could be wrong. I doubt we will ever get the real truth anyway.

Cindy testified that Casey had talked about Zanny (not Zenaida) for 2 years.
 
Cindy testified that Casey had talked about Zanny (not Zenaida) for 2 years.

This is my opinion only. .... I think she spoke about Zanny but didn't come up with a full name, Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez until she saw it on the guest list.
 
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