Casey Anthony NOT GUILTY & Sentencing Thread 6

[brunette8706]

I don't think she looks like tht I think she just looks like she is cuddling.

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Do you? Yeah, it just seems everytime I saw that picture she looked frightened. Of course I may be wrong....

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

No, were you? I watched the trial however, every once in a while I had to run to run to the grocery store or put clothes in the washer or dryer.



Repeat: I watched the trial however, every once in a while I had to run to run to the grocery store or put clothes in the washer or dryer.

Did you watch every second of the trial?

I didn't...but I have been asking if things were mentioned if I didn't catch it versus claiming it was never mentioned at all.

You said--why don't we ask the prosecutors? You didn't bother to clarify if they had been covered. But you reacted like you were busting the prosecutors chops for something that they indeed did cover (or otherwise were legally prohibited from mentioning).

 

[CurlyGirl]

This picture was taken of Caylee the day before she was murdered. Does she look "TERRIFIED" or "SCARED" to you, or is it just me?

http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony-0211-Caylee061508.jpg

I have a photo of my niece with her great-grandmother that looks very similar to that. And I know that my niece has that look because she doesn't know her great-grandma that well and only sees her once every 3 or 4 months. At that age, kids are often uncomfortable with people they're not with on a regular basis.

 

[brunette8706]

I have a photo of my niece with her great-grandmother that looks very similar to that. And I know that my niece has that look because she doesn't know her great-grandma that well and only sees her once every 3 or 4 months. At that age, kids are often uncomfortable with people they're not with on a regular basis.

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Hi! Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Especially since she probaby rarely saw her great grandfather. Thanks for your input!

 

[CurlyGirl]

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Hi! Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Especially since she probaby rarely saw her great grandfather. Thanks for your input!

Doesn't mean I'm right ... just food for thought! I honestly have no idea how often she saw her great-grandfather but if it wasn't often, her discomfort could be showing through.

 

[kidshop]

No, were you? I watched the trial however, every once in a while I had to run to run to the grocery store or put clothes in the washer or dryer.



Repeat: I watched the trial however, every once in a while I had to run to run to the grocery store or put clothes in the washer or dryer.

Did you watch every second of the trial?

I watched the part that showed the evidence against Casey.

 

[CurlyGirl]

I watched the part that showed the evidence against Casey.

Apparently not all of us did ...

ETA: while I watched 96% of it as it happened, I did TIVO and watch the other 4%. I do NOT claim to know everything that was said or every single last bit of evidence that was shown. But, I usually premise my statements with "Correct me if I'm wrong but ..." or "Did they present this ..." before I go off on what the prosecution (or defense for that matter) failed to do. And, believe me, people have corrected me if I was wrong and I welcomed the correction(s)!!!

 

[kidshop]

Did they air the sealed video before it was sealed? I feel like I have seen it, a small room with a TV and a table and when Casey sees the news report she flips out. And I do believe there was no reaction to Blanchard Park (was that a person or was it animal bones?)

Anyway, it is very clear the defense knew it was Caylee since they called their expert also before the remains were identified.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Did they air the sealed video before it was sealed? I feel like I have seen it, a small room with a TV and a table and when Casey sees the news report she flips out. And I do believe there was no reaction to Blanchard Park (was that a person or was it animal bones?)

Anyway, it is very clear the defense knew it was Caylee since they called their expert also before the remains were identified.

I thought maybe as well...but I wonder if the judge beat the media to the punch and sealed it.

Baez was ticked that it was vidoetaped. I often wondered if that was standard.

 

[Nancy]

Does anyone know if a deputy stays in the deliberation room with them? My husband has been on multiple juries and he thinks there is always someone in the room but he can't remember for sure. If so, I wonder what his job is? Would he report to the judge if there were bullies on the jury or is that all part of the wonderful process that we are just suppose to accept?

There was no one in the room with us at any time during the trial. We never got to deliberation since they settled during our lunch break..but at no time did anyone ever monitor what we were doing while in the jury room.

IMO, let Baez take resopnonsibility. He wanted her out so badly

HLN is now reporting that Ann Finnel is saying now that we really don't know what happened to caylee and they think Casey does not know. AND she said she thinks there are other players in this.

OMG are they kidding. What a travesty. JB said specifically at the trial. what had happened.

How can they say this stuff with a straight face?

HOLY MOLY!!!!!!! He said she was never missing, according to his client and she sat there shaking her head at her dad and saying yes he knows.. But in the interview with Tracy she told her she was the only one who knows what happend to Caylee, I knew Baez was lying about the whole thing. Amazing how you can come back and say something different. I hope the jurors now hears that and that he lied about the drowning.

And I hope that if they do sleep their dreams are filled with visions of Caylee with her mouth and nose covered in duct tape.

I remember that and thought you don't know what time? Your client provided you info. I am surprised that the jury didn't catch that. I hope these jurors are hearing this out of the DT now. they may be really sick now.

Makes me sick..I hope they feel it too.

I wonder if the jury are kicking themselves now?

JVM said that one of the female jury members is in hiding per that jury member's husband. Apparently, she's terrified of repercussions. And he said she doesn't ever want to serve on another jury again.

They're saying that the jurors are letting things cool off and will be looking to do interviews in 6 months to a year. You know what? In 6 months to a year, do you really think anyone's going to want their justifications or their story? Honestly, I could really care less about what that jury thinks/says anymore. Nothing they say is going to make me think they did the right thing. And I really don't need to hear 12x that "we didn't have enough evidence".

I doubt it..they all think they did the only thing they could do since there was no proof of how she died.

OK - just heard a clip from Ann Finnell. She she said:

"We all very much believed her [Casey] version of the events and still do."

Then Finnell said that she doesn't think that Casey knew what happened.

So ... if Casey doesn't know what happened make sense?!?!

Drinking the Casey Kool-Aid much, Ann?

Did anyone else hear JB say that ICA needs to get therapy because she "lost" her child

Yeah right..she killed her child.

I know there are a lot of people that are curious to see this video and I guess I get it, but truthfully, Im not that interested. I know she's guilty and this tape won't really add to my conviction. It is what it is.. watching her hyperventilate won't change a thing for me.

Mine either..and really it does nothing now. I know without a doubt ..reasonable or otherwise ...that she did it.

i think baez was as shocked as everyone else who thought they would come back with guilty one one of the first 2 charges.

all those times he tried in vein for a mistrial. how many of us NOW wish JP granted it.

besides i agree - unless the video tape actually showed KC killing her then it wouldn't have mattered - they weren't interested.

and their so called "sick to our stomach's" is a load of bull crap.

they made the choice - stand up for what you did. have faith in it or you shouldn't have dont it in the first places.

if you can't live with it now - don't look for sympathy from ANYONE. live with your choice and move on knowing you let a killer of a child go free. i don't give a rats ... if they are now sorry and i really hope Cruise Boy is having a great trip.

Yep, I have no sympathy for any of them. They all blew it so live with it now.

Yep. . .don't have to know how she died. . .just that she did. do any of you remember a case awhile back, in Canada I think it was, where the husband put the wife through a wood chipper? He was found guilty and I'm pretty sure we will never know exactly how she died. . .all that really matters is that the victim is in fact dead.

With this jury they would have said that she must have fallen into the wood chipper by mistake since there was no cause of death.

The Cell phone pings were brought up but I guess the jury were napping, even Ashton mentioned in one of the interviews, they saw the cell phone pings that put casey in the area near her house, and yes they mentioned that it was enough time, therefore Asthon thought that they jury didn't do their job and they could had asked all questions if they weren't sure.

They also talked about the shovel, but again the jury were in mars.

About the tape, well they thought it would be UNFAIR, WHY??? I don't understand, the whole trial was about poor KC, like if the victim was her!

Once they heard the opening and the lies against George that is all they focused on. they ignored things because they didn't feel George was telling the truth. The ONLY reason they felt that was was due to the opening statement.

 

[sbtrfly74]

I thought maybe as well...but I wonder if the judge beat the media to the punch and sealed it.

Baez was ticked that it was vidoetaped. I often wondered if that was standard.

I thought I read somewhere that she was visiting the nurse and a TV was on at the time. I'm sure there would be video camera's in common area's or even in a waiting room type place if she was seeking medical for another reason and just happened to see the video. It might have been by chance that it was caught on video. I haven't heard anything of her being video taped from the blanchard park incident just of it happening.

 

[T*Bird]

On NGrace, they played part of someone (JMV maybe?) saying that Juror #12 said that she'd rather go to jail than sit on a jury like that one.

Why? What was so bad about that jury in particular? If she couldn't give the death penalty and that troubled her, she had no right to be on that jury. Was it too long? Too drawn out?

The foreperson said he was "there was a feeling of disgust knowing that my signature and hers were going to be there, on the same sheet." And he says many jurors thought Casey killed Caylee.

Then WHY not fight and say "This is wrong, we really need to look at this more! What do we need to clarify? What are we missing? Let's sit down and sort through this piece by piece and see if we can't put this puzzle together"?

To me, the ONLY NECESSARY unanswered question is whether Casey intentionally murdered Caylee or if she died as a result of an ILLEGAL act (chloroforming Caylee to knock her out), which as I understand it is felony child abuse/Murder 1. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

How could the jurors think Casey was responsible and not find her guilty of anything??? At the very least manslaughter.

It makes my blood boil when I hear that the jurors felt the prosecution didn't prove motive. I firmly believe they did, yet they weren't even required to prove motive. And cause of death doesn't have to be proven, either. Did these jurors listen to any of the judge's instructions?

 

[Nancy]

To me, the ONLY NECESSARY unanswered question is whether Casey intentionally murdered Caylee or if she died as a result of an ILLEGAL act (chloroforming Caylee to knock her out), which as I understand it is felony child abuse/Murder 1. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

How could the jurors think Casey was responsible and not find her guilty of anything??? At the very least manslaughter.

It makes my blood boil when I hear that the jurors felt the prosecution didn't prove motive. I firmly believe they did, yet they weren't even required to prove motive. And cause of death doesn't have to be proven, either. Did these jurors listen to any of the judge's instructions?

doesn't look like they did.

 

[CurlyGirl]

I thought I read somewhere that she was visiting the nurse and a TV was on at the time. I'm sure there would be video camera's in common area's or even in a waiting room type place if she was seeking medical for another reason and just happened to see the video. It might have been by chance that it was caught on video. I haven't heard anything of her being video taped from the blanchard park incident just of it happening.

WESH tv said that she was "purposefully led to a nurse's station" where there was a tv and she was shown the live news footage from there. I was looking on youtube to see if they had her reaction to that Suburban Dr. video and this was where I heard that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kk6XfhPIvg&feature=related

I am sure that the nurse's station is videotaped so that a prisoner can't say the nurse did this/that/the other thing.

 

[Samba]

It is becoming clear that jurors probably would benefit from a bit of schooling. It is a shame to spend so much time and money on a case and then present it to a jury unequipped to handle their charge.

Maybe the prosecution could have spent some time explaining how they could reach guilty legally with the evidence presented.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Forensic Psychologist's book in the works.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/28514547/detail.html

Written by forensic psychiatrist Keith Ablow, "Inside the Mind of Casey Anthony" will offer a "cogent, comprehensible way of understanding exactly how Casey Anthony's psyche may have developed and how her psychological development and the dynamics within her family ended the life of Caylee Anthony," a spokesperson for the publisher says in a statement.

 

[CurlyGirl]

Forensic Psychologist's book in the works.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/28514547/detail.html

That is one brain I really don't want to poke around in.

I'll save you all some money ... here's how Casey's brain works:

Casey wants to party.
Cindy says she won't baby sit anymore.
Casey doesn't have money for a sitter.
Casey wants boyfriends, booze & dancing.
Mommy says too bad, I'm not watching the kid so you deal.
Boys, Booze and Partying equal good.
Caylee disrupting her social life equals bad.
Mommy's dynamics of saying no when she says yes is now ruining Casey's life.
How do we solve this equation?
Boys+Booze+Partying (- Caylee) = fun

(OK - I am math stupid, so I hope I did that problem right! But I think you get what I mean!

 

[sbtrfly74]

I personally think ICA has borderline personality disorder. It not quite psychosis as some may think but could explain some of her behavior.

The things I see in casey is:

* Have frequent emotional overreactions or intense mood swings, including feeling depressed, irritable, or anxious. Difficulty controlling emotions or impulses.

* Act impulsively in ways that are self-damaging, such as extravagant spending, frequent and unprotected sex with many partners, substance abuse.

* Have an unstable self-image.

* Have temporary episodes of feeling suspicious of others without reason (paranoia) or losing a sense of reality.

* Have inappropriate, fierce anger or problems controlling anger. The person may often display temper tantrums, sometimes escalating into physical confrontations.


The next one makes me believe this the most, ICA is happy with someone while they support her and is on her side. But if they go against her or question her. Then she has immense hatred for them.

* Have a pattern of difficult relationships caused by alternating between extremes of intense admiration and hatred of others. You may idealize someone one moment and then abruptly and dramatically shift to fury and hate over perceived slights or even minor misunderstandings. This is because people with the disorder often have difficulty accepting gray areas — things seem to be either black or white.

The last criteria reminds me of how she she's her father GA, he questioned her, testified against her to a point and now she hates him. From what Chaney Mason said this morning is she wants nothing to do with either of her parents, even Cindy after she tried to lie and save her daughter but ICA has now written her off as well. Right now her lawyers are her best friends... and I will bet if they say something against her or piss her off in the least, she will write them off and throw them under the bus as well.

 

[T*Bird]

It is becoming clear that jurors probably would benefit from a bit of schooling. It is a shame to spend so much time and money on a case and then present it to a jury unequipped to handle their charge.

Maybe the prosecution could have spent some time explaining how they could reach guilty legally with the evidence presented.

Casey Jordan also said it might be helpful if potential jurors were required to attend some type of seminar. Of course, Sunny Hostin took issue with that and accused Casey Jordan of calling the jurors "stupid". It seems that to Sunny Hostin, the jurors are untouchable - that we have no right to question or criticize their decision. I'd love to ask Ms. Hostin this question: if it came out that, for example, a particular juror was trying to force a quick decision in order to go on a vacation, would she still feel that the juror was above reproach? Is there any juror conduct that she would criticize?

 

[CurlyGirl]

Casey says that she misses shopping and pedicures the most.

Funny how she doesn't miss Caylee. Yeah ... she really needs that grief counseling ....