Casey Anthony NOT GUILTY & Sentencing Thread 6

[Wadecool]

Nope. Misdemeanors.

She still has the stolen check felonies on her record though, and that makes her a convicted felon. It's not much, but it's something.

 

[DVCconvert]

....no offense of course but some would argue that there was enough circumstantial evidence to convict her of the lesser charges...not murder 1, but at least one of the lesser charges..and not just the lies.

---->but not the jury



I certainly hope you are not saying they are good company? Baez is a joke..he got lucky with this case because he bumbled his way through it. Baez was such a no good that he couldn't even get admitted to the bar for years.

--->as evidenced by the outcome....Baez bumbled less than ashton

 

[Mosoh]

Since you clearly also lack the "legal mind" you'll kindly note I've made no reference to the Judge. Otherwise I stand behind my statement. Ashton is apparently lacks the wonderful legal sense you have bestowed upon him as evidenced by the complete failure of his augurements.

Is there a real point to your smug superiority over Ashton?

Legally he put forth a great case, a closing that will be taught as a how to for years to come and proved no one else had possession to all that was tossed with the body.

The jury - lacking the ability to follow instructions, made a bad call. If you can point out an error on his part please do.

 

[Goofyluver]

She still has the stolen check felonies on her record though, and that makes her a convicted felon. It's not much, but it's something.

I agree. It's just not enough.

And those stolen check convictions won't prevent her from profiting from Caylee's death.

 

[Samba]

I so worried when GA was on the stand. There was understandable animosity between he and HoseA if you knew the history. But to the jury he could have looked combative and uncooperative. I thought he did more for KC than CA did. Perhaps it made the jury suspicious of him.

I am really down about the outcome. I think my faith in a larger reality beyond this life drama is all that helps me when such things happen. I am stunned by the outcome still. Glad we have the continuing thread.

 

[horseshowmom]

If she did write about Caylee's death, would that include how she was sexually abused by her father and Lee? And if she makes those accusations in a BOOK, can they sue her after that? I wonder.

I would think that they would be able to do so if they chose. I would think it would fall under libel laws unless she could prove it happened (which I doubt very seriously).

I thought that those 4 charges of lying to law enforcement are felonies. In any case, she is still a convicted felon because those stolen check charges she pled guilty to were felonies as well.

Nope. Misdemeanors.

Right, misdemeanors. She is a felon regarding the stolen checks though (of course, that would have no impact on her profiting from this case).

Otherwise I stand behind my statement. Ashton is apparently lacks the wonderful legal sense you have bestowed upon him as evidenced by the complete failure of his augurements.

I would think that is strictly a matter of opinion. While you are quite correct in that the jury did find the defendant not guilty, I (and many others) find their verdict questionable. Obviously, there is nothing that can be done about it, but there was no justice for Caylee in this verdict.

 

[joviroxx]

I'm disgusted by Casey Anthony. In my gut, I think she was guilty. Her behavior disgusts me. But...I don't know if I could have voted "guilty."
I've been aware of this case from the get-go, three years ago. I did watch the entire trial. I watched the after-trial discussions of all the daily events.

I do not know how Caylee died, however. If I don't know how Caylee died, then I don't know if she was murdered. If I don't know that she was murdered, then I can't possibly know who killed her. If I don't know who killed her, then I certainly can't say it was Caycee. It goes against what I want to believe, as a mother, but I can't believe it without reasonable doubt.

OK, Ill try this..
Facts:
1- Caylee is dead
2-Her death wasn't reported
3-Her mother, who was to care for her, didn't tell anyone
4-She was found thrown in a swamp like trash

Well:
1-These facts lead me to believe her death was not by "natural causes".
2-Common sense tells me that innocent deaths are not made to look like murder and hidden away.
3-The whole "she freaked" doesn't add up considering how she acted for the next 30 days. NOT the behavior of someone who freaked and hid the body
4- She was found thrown in a swamp, someone was trying to hide something


So, knowing this, yes, my common sense tells me this wasn't an accident and Casey, the mother who she was last seen with, had something to do with it. Reasonable doubt for Murder 1? Sure, but plenty for Murder 2 or 3

Secondly, even if somehow I can't come up with Murder, a child died under her maternal care, she hid it and didn't say anything ... Child abuse for sure...

But never NEVER does the evidence show not guilty of anything.

 

[Nancy]

Is there a real point to your smug superiority over Ashton?

Legally he put forth a great case, a closing that will be taught as a how to for years to come and proved no one else had possession to all that was tossed with the body.

The jury - lacking the ability to follow instructions, made a bad call. If you can point out an error on his part please do.

 

[DVCconvert]

I would think that is strictly a matter of opinion. While you are quite correct in that the jury did find the defendant not guilty, I (and many others) find their verdict questionable. Obviously, there is nothing that can be done about it, but there was no justice for Caylee in this verdict.

Quite correct inre opinion..but as you suggest, the only opinion in the situation that "counts" is the jury's.

 

[brunette8706]

The more I hear about the jury the more I think WOW what a brilliant group!!One arrested for DUI, one arrested for drug paraphaniala, and 2 who made it to the 11th grade!!

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OMGOSH! Are you serious?

 

[SweetJoy]

I'm disgusted by Casey Anthony. In my gut, I think she was guilty. Her behavior disgusts me. But...I don't know if I could have voted "guilty."
I've been aware of this case from the get-go, three years ago. I did watch the entire trial. I watched the after-trial discussions of all the daily events.

I do not know how Caylee died, however. If I don't know how Caylee died, then I don't know if she was murdered. If I don't know that she was murdered, then I can't possibly know who killed her. If I don't know who killed her, then I certainly can't say it was Caycee. It goes against what I want to believe, as a mother, but I can't believe it without reasonable doubt.

Yes. This.

I think the jury is being given far too little credit here. Understandable, I guess, when people are going by very strong emotions here. To say the jury didn't deliberate enough - would that be the prevailing opinion here if they came back with a guilty verdict? Somehow I don't think so. I think many posters here had their minds made up the second the jury was given their instructions, if not sooner. What extra evidence would you guys have needed to see to convict her? None, is my guess.

 

[DVCconvert]

Is there a real point to your smug superiority over Ashton?

Legally he put forth a great case, a closing that will be taught as a how to for years to come and proved no one else had possession to all that was tossed with the body.

The jury - lacking the ability to follow instructions, made a bad call. If you can point out an error on his part please do.

No "smugness"...just a simple observation of the facts. His "error" is that he failured to prove is arguement and thus lost the case. I agree is closing will be studied for years...as a failure.

 

[okeydokey]

The more I hear about the jury the more I think WOW what a brilliant group!!One arrested for DUI, one arrested for drug paraphaniala, and 2 who made it to the 11th grade!!

A jury of her peers.

 

[mellvswdw1]

I am struggling with this verdict.

But taking what the alternate juror said, it seems that if a lie is told convincingly enough, it can get acquitted of murder.


Well, I was wrong in what I thought would happen, here is hoping I am wrong about the following guesses of what happens next:

She goes free this week...

She friends up with mommy and daddy again,'Cindy won't want to further alienate her. Casey will "come clean" (aka lie) about the horrific abuse and turn daddy away. She will make money slandering and libeling him.

Geraldo will be the first stop in the interview circuit. This will be her only free/low cost interview.

She sill sue any person who attempts to profit off if the case.

She may or may not become the next Erin Brokavich. (one of the interviewees in recent weeks was a woman who murdered her dad after wars of abuse. She did her time and either was now an attorney or going to school for it---she thinks Casey did it, FWIW--so Casey would not be the first nor last person to turn to law as a career choice)

She will only do one authorized movie and would probably want to play herself.

She will have a full and complete makeover before her interview with Geraldo. Jose will have a staffer take her to mall at millenia for a personal shopping spree.

She will never again address anything other than the story she fabricated for her defense.


Those are my predictions. We'll see what sticks.

You are right on, but you forgot the RV and driving away into the sunset...just kidding! It sickens me to think of her on a shopping spree,talking to Gerald(which is his real name), and drinking and partying with Jose. I still think as I said in the other thread, next to Caylee, George is a victim in this as well.

 

[mellvswdw1]

A jury of her peers.

Amen!

 

[DVCconvert]

A jury of her peers.

Yup...a cross section of society. Which also included "normal" people (whatever that is) ie an IT professional a nurse etc.

 

[horseshowmom]

The more I hear about the jury the more I think WOW what a brilliant group!!One arrested for DUI, one arrested for drug paraphaniala, and 2 who made it to the 11th grade!!

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OMGOSH! Are you serious?

Yeah, and one of them had a sister and boyfriend who beat up their dad (I think I caught that right a little while ago), and I think the two wound up in jail for it.

 

[plutotek]

Since you clearly also lack the "legal mind" you'll kindly note I've made no reference to the Judge. Otherwise I stand behind my statement. Ashton is apparently lacks the wonderful legal sense you have bestowed upon him as evidenced by the complete failure of his augurements.

The wonderful thing about discussion boards such as this is someone such as you can come on here with your bandwagon gloating and false superiority and stir the pot with impunity. Unfortunately, all you end up doing is make yourself look like a pompous buffoon who handpicks his/her points in a failed attempt to appear intelligent. Were you to meet any of the women on this thread face-to-face, I doubt you'd be so willing to share your opinion.

 

[JaneBanks]

Since you clearly also lack the "legal mind" you'll kindly note I've made no reference to the Judge. Otherwise I stand behind my statement. Ashton is apparently lacks the wonderful legal sense you have bestowed upon him as evidenced by the complete failure of his augurements.

Do you realize that Jeff Ashton was the first prosecutor to ever have DNA introduced in to a court room?

Show some respect.

 

[DVCconvert]

Unfortunately, all you end up doing is make yourself look like a pompous buffoon who handpicks his/her points in a failed attempt to appear intelligent. Were you to meet any of the women on this thread face-to-face, I doubt you'd be so willing to share your opinion.

In the first matter, sadly I can't hold a candle to your own esteemed abilities.
In the second, are you sexist? Why do you assume the participants in the thread are all women?