Can adults go to bibbidi bobbidi boutique?

[thedonduck]

On a discussion board, we can speculate why Disney stopped allowing adults to participate in BBB.

Some people on this thread mentioned that the BBB CMs can't upsell guests on much of what the BBB has for sale. I'm thinking that there are other reasons. For example, the CMs who work there do not have cosmetology licenses. They are limited on what work they can do on a human being, and that's why they're not cutting their customers' hair or giving them real manicures. For all we know, some of these fun-loving adults who were showing up began to ask for more elaborate hair-do's than tight buns sprayed with glitter.

Also, Disney is in the business of provding quality experiences for their guests. For all we know, they were getting complaints from irate customers that they plunked down $50 to get glitter nail polish and a skull crushing bun. Rather than expand to provide adult guests with a value experience, they decided to limit the BBB to who they intended to serve in the first place--children.



Since you quoted my post, please point out where I insulted anyone.

I mentioned that the sash was too small on the photo someone posted of her sister. The sashes sold at BBB are clearly made to fit someone who is 3 to 4 feet tall, not the 5 1/2 feet that the young lady in the photo probably is.

In every photo I've ever seen of an adult beauty pageant winner, she is wearing a sash that goes from her shoulder to the opposite hip. I've never seen Miss America wearing a sash that fell just below her armpit like the girl in the photo. I don't mean that as an insult--it's just a fact. And I mentioned it because someone else stated that Disney didn't specifically say that BBB is just for children. Well, I think Disney didn't think they needed to because people would figure that out when everything they saw in the shop was child-sized.

This is what I have been wondering all along. The FGIT don't have licenses to do work (FL law I believe states for needing one for hair, nails, and make-up) so I'm curious if THIS is one of the biggest reasons why they had to put an age limit. If the state of FL told them that in order to do a makeover on someone older than 12 they needed a license, maybe Disney didn't want to pay to put people through a program.

 

[luvthemouse71]

I can see why some adults would like to do it, and kids too. What would hold me back are the ridiculous prices.

My sister and I ate at CRT one year and did our hair and makeup, complete with little tiaras. The whole thing cost $20 for both of us. You can get princess dresses for kids way cheaper elsewhere and do the hair and makeup yourself. And you don't have to do the Torture hairdo either.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

Well, as fun as the "do it and everybody else can deal with it" attitude is, the fact is that, at 20, BBB won't style her. The age limit is 12 and all the "tough buttercups" in the world will not change the fact that she can't participate.

A circumstance that my advice to then go the to barber shop covered. Thanks

I'm sorry if the fact that Disney isn't solely made for the pleasure of children bothers you so much, but it's the truth.

 

[sammielynn]

I wish everyone that wanted to do this experience could do it. Personally I have never seen anyone come out of there that looked good to me. But the little and big girls all look so happy, but not pretty.

 

[mking624]

In every photo I've ever seen of an adult beauty pageant winner, she is wearing a sash that goes from her shoulder to the opposite hip. I've never seen Miss America wearing a sash that fell just below her armpit like the girl in the photo. I don't mean that as an insult--it's just a fact. And I mentioned it because someone else stated that Disney didn't specifically say that BBB is just for children. Well, I think Disney didn't think they needed to because people would figure that out when everything they saw in the shop was child-sized.

I don't remember about others, but I know I did say that Disney never specifically mentioned about it being for children only. If they intended it for only children, then yes it needs to be specified. And Disney isn't dumb enough to leave out age specifications by "assuming" people will know...not when they make clear specifications on other things that DO have age restrictions. That said, I feel your argument about the size of the sash isn't really strong. I could say the princess crowns available in the shops are too big for toddler girls (they're massive on my 2 year old)...so then Disney never intended for those little girls to have them, but hey they fit me so obviously they're meant for adults only and people should know that. But that wouldn't really be right, would it? Of course not. Or what about the beds? I could say that people of a certain height aren't allowed to stay at the resorts because obviously the beds aren't meant for NBA height people. Again, not really right. Now obviously Disney realized that this would be more of an interest to children, hence the sizing was done to cater to them more. That is NOT the same as saying Disney intended for it to be exclusively for children. The very fact they allowed adults showed that their intent was not to have a restriction. If they wanted it restricted from the beginning, they would have done so. My assumption is that this restriction came as a result of complaints by parents who were not able to get their child in. Now, and only now, that there is a restriction in place, can we say that a certain age group is Disney's intent. Because let's say we are going to go by "well ads showed children"...well then I hope everyone here realizes Disney uses children in pretty much all their ads. Never did that mean that adults without children weren't allowed anywhere on property. And what about Pleasure Island when all the clubs were still around? That was marketed towards adults...but we are all aware that with the exception of a few clubs, that children were allowed with supervision. So this goes back to what I was saying...Disney knows to use specific wording when it comes to restrictions, otherwise they also know to assume that people will think certain things, or ages, are allowed if that wording isn't there. Now that it is there, we can all agree that it is Disney's current intent to limit the age.

 

[JerseyJanice]

I've never seen a sign at the playground that stated "Play Equipment is for Children Only," but it's always been very clear to me that playgrounds are designed for them.

Your argument that BBB plastic crowns are large on your 2 year-old, but fit you, is silly. The BBB's target audience is 4 to 6 year old girls, so of course the toy crowns they sell would be large on a 2 year-old. Plus it's a plastic tiara! A toy!

Next you'll be telling me that dolls are for adults too.

 

[chartle]

This is what I have been wondering all along. The FGIT don't have licenses to do work (FL law I believe states for needing one for hair, nails, and make-up) so I'm curious if THIS is one of the biggest reasons why they had to put an age limit. If the state of FL told them that in order to do a makeover on someone older than 12 they needed a license, maybe Disney didn't want to pay to put people through a program.

I doubt there is an age limit. Its just as posted, older guests may expect more for their money.

I can see needing a licence for hair and nails since you dealing with sharp tools near a person's body but the only limitation on Make Up I have read was that since it's not tested for under 3 that's why they have that lower limit.

I once asked my barber about this whole licence thing and he pulled out text book from the 60's, it was right in his desk. It involved much more than I would expect more like what a beginning health care worker would use.

 

[chartle]

I've never seen a sign at the playground that stated "Play Equipment is for Children Only," but it's always been very clear to me that playgrounds are designed for them.

Your argument that BBB plastic crowns are large on your 2 year-old, but fit you, is silly. The BBB's target audience is 4 to 6 year old girls, so of course the toy crowns they sell would be large on a 2 year-old. Plus it's a plastic tiara! A toy!

Next you'll be telling me that dolls are for adults too.

They are not dolls, they are action figures.

 

[mking624]

I've never seen a sign at the playground that stated "Play Equipment is for Children Only," but it's always been very clear to me that playgrounds are designed for them.

Your argument that BBB plastic crowns are large on your 2 year-old, but fit you, is silly. The BBB's target audience is 4 to 6 year old girls, so of course the toy crowns they sell would be large on a 2 year-old. Plus it's a plastic tiara! A toy!

Next you'll be telling me that dolls are for adults too.

Just as I feel that your argument about the size of the sash is silly...hence the reason why I brought up the size of the tiaras in the stores, or the beds in the resorts. The size of a sash is irrelevant because someone is bound not to fit in them...that doesn't automatically mean that person is now excluded from participating.
My point is that you're making the argument about sizing and how people should know. I countered it with equally valid examples about sizing...and how Disney knows there will be people who assume it's for ALL when there are no age restrictions set. For the record, I've seen CMs encourage adults to play in How I Shrunk the Kids playground at DHS...so your argument about playgrounds for children only could be countered also.

 

[Sparkly]

Just as I feel that your argument about the size of the sash is silly...hence the reason why I brought up the size of the tiaras in the stores, or the beds in the resorts. The size of a sash is irrelevant because someone is bound not to fit in them...that doesn't automatically mean that person is now excluded from participating.
My point is that you're making the argument about sizing and how people should know. I countered it with equally valid examples about sizing...and how Disney knows there will be people who assume it's for ALL when there are no age restrictions set. For the record, I've seen CMs encourage adults to play in How I Shrunk the Kids playground at DHS...so your argument about playgrounds for children only could be countered also.

LOL, I wouldn't be able to fit into the tiny playground equipment! Everyone would talk about that "weird woman who got stuck at the Honey I Shrunk The Kids playground!"

 

[JerseyJanice]

Just as I feel that your argument about the size of the sash is silly...hence the reason why I brought up the size of the tiaras in the stores, or the beds in the resorts. The size of a sash is irrelevant because someone is bound not to fit in them...that doesn't automatically mean that person is now excluded from participating.
My point is that you're making the argument about sizing and how people should know. I countered it with equally valid examples about sizing...and how Disney knows there will be people who assume it's for ALL when there are no age restrictions set. For the record, I've seen CMs encourage adults to play in How I Shrunk the Kids playground at DHS...so your argument about playgrounds for children only could be countered also.

The size of the banners is just one point in my argument that people should realize that the BBB is intended for 4 to 6 years. The fact that they stock the shop with toys like plastic tiaras and wants, along with the child-sized costumes and shoes, is another. It's very obvious that the BBB is intended for children, and I don't need Disney to refuse to give adults reservations there to tell me that, anymore than I would need a sign on a supermarket ride or a playground to me that those things are meant for little kids.

I think the whole argument (not just yours, but others on this thread) that because Disney allowed adults there for a time, they didn't build it for children. That whole line of logic makes no sense to me.

All over the world, there are things that are obviously for children, and things that are obviously for adults. I don't need them spelled out for me to know the difference, and it's kind of disturbing that there people on this thread saying that they do.

 

[AngieBelle]

The sashes are actually full sized....we make them smaller by cinching the end of it into a little bow with a rubberband.

Yes, of course the BBB is aimed at kids, but that doesn't mean there aren't or shouldn't be adults who would enjoy it too.


I *have* seen signs at some playgrounds that restrict ages. But when there aren't, I like to climb on the equipment too. I worked at a day camp this summer, and the kids loved that I climbed and slid right along with them.

And no way are dolls just for kids either. You should see my computer room...
I belong to a whole online community of adults who are into the American Girl Dolls. Marketed for children? Of course! But so what?

You don't automatically start disliking something you've always liked before when you reach a magic age.

 

[morethananyonex]

I'm sorry, but are people seriously making this about catering to children? I'm willing to bet Disney couldn't care less about your age, they care whether you can fit your adult size body into a child size princess dress so they can get the most money out of you. Disney is a business, they care more about maximizing profit than bringing joy to adults hearts.

It amazes me sometimes how people forget Disney is in the business of making money.

 

[gator girl]

Different strokes for different folks. Actually, what's kind of disturbing to me is that people are making judgemental comments about nothing more than theme park guests wanting to experience an attraction exactly as encouraged by Disney until a few months ago. Why does it bother other people so much? It didn't hurt you, and you didn't have to pay for it or take time out of your park day for it. Insinuating that there's something wrong with people who made a different but equally legitimate touring choice at that time is not very kind, in my opinion.

 

[mking624]

The size of the banners is just one point in my argument that people should realize that the BBB is intended for 4 to 6 years. The fact that they stock the shop with toys like plastic tiaras and wants, along with the child-sized costumes and shoes, is another. It's very obvious that the BBB is intended for children, and I don't need Disney to refuse to give adults reservations there to tell me that, anymore than I would need a sign on a supermarket ride or a playground to me that those things are meant for little kids.

I think the whole argument (not just yours, but others on this thread) that because Disney allowed adults there for a time, they didn't build it for children. That whole line of logic makes no sense to me.

All over the world, there are things that are obviously for children, and things that are obviously for adults. I don't need them spelled out for me to know the difference, and it's kind of disturbing that there people on this thread saying that they do.

*sigh* You are completely missing my point. I didn't say they didn't build it for children, so I'm not sure what you find illogical about that since no one ever said that. I said it was obvious their intent was to not make it exclusively for children by the very fact they allowed adults to participate. Allowance of something means just that...it's allowed. The only restriction was one you decided there needed to be...your personal preference that you decided everyone needed to follow. You made an argument about sash sizing...I countered it. Whether or not you agree with my argument, that doesn't matter (although all I did was take your example further). Disney isn't stupid. If they want something to have restrictions, they will specifically list them. This prevents people from causing a scene, from doing frivolous lawsuits, etc. This is why you'll see age restrictions on certain tours, activities (in fact the Pirate Adventure springs to mind which specifically lists an age restriction of 4-12, therefore making it clear that adults cannot participate) or at Victoria & Albert's, etc, because Disney is making it clear what their intention is...no ifs, ands, or buts. You know that disclaimer on the back of tickets that discuss how they can shut down rides at any time? It's because people DO need it spelled out for them. If you personally don't want an adult at BBB, fine. You have your way now anyway. But your personal preference didn't rule all in the past. You can find it disturbing all you'd like, but it doesn't change the fact that Disney obviously didn't find it "disturbing" enough to actually put a restriction in place until recently. I mean if we're going to start debating about restrictions, why aren't you complaining about the fact that boys can also participate...even though it's "so obvious" it's for girls? In fact, if this was ALL about money (as some have argued), it would actually make more sense to exclude the boys than adult women...since a package for boys is considerably less money than an adult woman would spend.

 

[mking624]

Different strokes for different folks. Actually, what's kind of disturbing to me is that people are making judgemental comments about nothing more than theme park guests wanting to experience an attraction exactly as encouraged by Disney until a few months ago. Why does it bother other people so much? It didn't hurt you, and you didn't have to pay for it or take time out of your park day for it. Insinuating that there's something wrong with people who made a different but equally legitimate touring choice at that time is not very kind, in my opinion.

 

[Sparkly]

I had a idea for something Disney could do for adults wishing to have the makeover experience.

They could add a treatment to the GF's spa which includes hair, makeup and nails in a more classic style which fits with the resort's theme and is still regal. It could be available for both adults and children, so families can do it together.

The hair could be a variation of the BBB bun which is slightly looser and without so much hairspray. It comes with a little barrette to finish it off. You could also choose to add pixie dust. Along with it comes a tiara which comes in sizes to fit everyone.

The makeup could come in different princess themes- I.E blue/white for Cinderella, pink/blue for Sleeping Beauty etc. It would be applied lighter on kids.

The nails again could have different themes to them. Because the spa already does other treatments, maybe they could also have them manicured too.

It could be around $40-50 depending on what you choose and the only age limit is that you have to be over 3.

The GF is just a monorail or boat away from MK, so perfect for princesses and their families before their big CRT meal.

 

[maxiesmom]

Different strokes for different folks. Actually, what's kind of disturbing to me is that people are making judgemental comments about nothing more than theme park guests wanting to experience an attraction exactly as encouraged by Disney until a few months ago. Why does it bother other people so much? It didn't hurt you, and you didn't have to pay for it or take time out of your park day for it. Insinuating that there's something wrong with people who made a different but equally legitimate touring choice at that time is not very kind, in my opinion.

Disney allowed adults to do the BBB, but the didn't encourage it. Big difference. You never saw anything on the buses or in flyers showing adults getting made-up by the Fairy Godmothers in Training, but you did see that for children.

Allowing someone to do something is not the same as encouraging it.

 

[mking624]

Disney allowed adults to do the BBB, but the didn't encourage it. Big difference. You never saw anything on the buses or in flyers showing adults getting made-up by the Fairy Godmothers in Training, but you did see that for children.

Allowing someone to do something is not the same as encouraging it.

And this is why I brought up Pleasure Island when the clubs were still around. All the ads showed adults going there. Yet children were allowed, which the exception of a few clubs that had an age restriction.
All the ads I see for WDW as a whole have children in it. In fact, it is usually a mom, dad, and children. Never once did I believe that meant they simply "allowed, but not encouraged" couples without children, single people/solo travelers, or families that didn't fit the "mom, dad, kids" mold. So that is why I don't buy into the whole "but look at what the ads showed" argument.

 

[AngieBelle]

Disney allowed adults to do the BBB, but the didn't encourage it. Big difference. You never saw anything on the buses or in flyers showing adults getting made-up by the Fairy Godmothers in Training, but you did see that for children.

Allowing someone to do something is not the same as encouraging it.

Many of the FGiTs at the BBB used to encourage it all the time.

And allowing it is the important thing. It doesn't matter who it was marketed for. If Disney allowed it, they were ok with it. It took 5 years for them to change their minds.