Calling all bakers - flat cookies

Did you put thecookie dough onto a warm cookie sheet prior to putting it in the oven? If you take one batch out, take cookies off then immediately put new dough on there, the cookies tend to spread out. Instead you should put the dough on a cold (or room temperature) cookie sheet.
 
As others have said, the most likely culprit is old baking powder or soda.

But I differ slightly from the other posters - even if it still fizzes with vinegar, I'd get new stuff. I've had some still fizz that way, but be too far gone for proper baking.
 
Two things that can help, chill the dough (which has already been mentioned) and add a little extra flour. These are the 2 things you can do with dough you are having a problem with. For dough that you haven't made yet, some of the other solutions are good.
 
I appreciate these tips too, because I often have the same problem with flat cookies. With mine, it's also strange that sometimes they look good when I take them out of the oven, but then when they're cooling slightly on the cookie sheet before I take them off, they seem to collapse. I just bought new baking soda last week, so I'll see if that makes a difference...
 

I'm so glad I saw this. I made cookies the other day for classroom parties and they all came out super flat. :sad2: One of the recipes said to chill the dough before baking for an hour to prevent this, so I did, but they still were flat.

I also know that I haven't bought baking powder in a looong time, and probably the same with the baking soda. I'm going to get new stuff and try the recipes again and see if that makes a difference....thanks for the tips. :thumbsup2
 
I never use butter in cookies because they come out flat. Crisco butter flavor shortening sticks are the way to go IMO.
 
Butter is 80% fat, so I have no idea what the difference would be. I've never used anything but butter in cookies and it's never been a problem. Also, shortbread doesn't spread.

Same here, I refuse to touch margarin, nasty fake stuff. I agree that sounds like the OP's oven is off.
 
i would second the poster that mentioned no enough flour. Especially with butter/ sugar cookies. And to quickly cool your baking sheet, i run cold water on the back of my pan before loading it up for the next batch :)
 
I'm willing to bet your butter was too cold when you creamed it with the sugar. It should have been room temperature. I also use only real butter (Land of Lakes). I have not had good results when baking with margarine.
 
All the above, but how much Flour is in the cookie makes a difference too especially if you have moved and you are at higher or lower altitude than before!! Altitude really mess's with baking deserts. Or if you like thinner or fatter cookies!!!

Fatter more cake like , chew cookie, use more flour.

If you like crispy cookies that snap when bent, then use less flour.
 
Or your Baking Powder is old. Test it by putting a tsp into warm water- it should fizz

if you use Baking Soda in your recipe- that too can be old - to test put some drops of white vinegar in a bowl sprinkle with baking soda(a little bit) it should bubble up. The more it does the fresher your baking soda is.

I use tons of both of those so I never have the go bad issue- but my friends that bake only around the holidays and birthdays often have the baking powder, soda issue.

I agree with this.
 
I agree that you need to check your oven temp! I had this same problem. I just thought I was a bad baker, haha. I got a couple thermometers that you can hang in your over and saw how high the baking temperature was actually getting. I adjusted the oven temp accordingly and I had perfect cookies.
 
I bake a lot and always use butter. I have always had to add 1/8 - 1/4 cup flour to my sugar and several other cookie recipes to get them to not flatten as they cook(even though I've chilled them). Other recipes with peanut butter don't have this problem. It is frustrating when I try new recipes, because I'm not sure what's going to happen. I also had an airbake cookie sheet that caused problems until I learned to turn the heat up a bit when using it. I usually only put about 8 cookies on my first batch of a new recipe, so I can problem solve if needed:)
 
Thanks for all the suggestions, I am going to bake a new batch this week.
They taste fine, just flat.
I don't understand because it was a new box of baking soda I had just bought since mine was open from last year.
My oven is only 6 years old and never had a problem baking about 10 batches of the same cookie over the past year.
Maybe my butter was too soft or my sheet was too warm to put the cookies for the 2nd batch.

Wish me luck this week!
Thanks
 
I love my chocolate chip cookies flat! On one pan, they come out flat, on one pan they come out plump! The pan that makes them more plump has a lip all around it, the other does not. Hope that helps!
 
Thanks for all the suggestions, I am going to bake a new batch this week.
They taste fine, just flat.
I don't understand because it was a new box of baking soda I had just bought since mine was open from last year.
My oven is only 6 years old and never had a problem baking about 10 batches of the same cookie over the past year.
Maybe my butter was too soft or my sheet was too warm to put the cookies for the 2nd batch.

Wish me luck this week!
Thanks

Oven calibrations will slide and you won't notice until they're far off enough that you notice. Same as a clock or watch will start going off time - you don't notice until it's like 5 minutes fast or slow, then you notice. It didn't get that way all at once, it moves incrementally.

Based on what you've said, I'm still betting it's the oven temp. Test the calibration, what can it harm?

Do it before you get tilty muffins! :scared1:
 
I bake a lot and always use butter. I have always had to add 1/8 - 1/4 cup flour to my sugar and several other cookie recipes to get them to not flatten as they cook(even though I've chilled them). Other recipes with peanut butter don't have this problem. It is frustrating when I try new recipes, because I'm not sure what's going to happen. I also had an airbake cookie sheet that caused problems until I learned to turn the heat up a bit when using it. I usually only put about 8 cookies on my first batch of a new recipe, so I can problem solve if needed:)

Great idea to only put a few cookies on the first pan as a test run -- It's such a basic common sense idea, and I have never thought of doing it!!!
 
If you experiment, try using half unsalted butter and half margerine or shortening. Their melting points are different, with salted butter having the lowest.

The melting point of butter is between 90°F and 95°F (32°C and 35°C). The melting point of margarine appears to be a hair warmer, at 94°F to 98°F (34°C to 37°C). But margarines can be formulated to have melting points ranging from 91°F to 109°F (33°C to 43°C). Many of the higher-melting-point margarines are manufactured for the baking industry. The presence of salt lowers the melting point of both butter and margarine.

What's Better: Butter, Margarine, or Shortening for Cookies?

I am 11 years old and in the 5th grade. I am doing a science experiment on the effects of using butter or margarine instead of shortening in a cookie recipe. Which was used first in recipes, butter, margarine, or shortening? Also, which do you think makes for a better cookie?

We have bits of your answer scattered here and there at Ochef.com. But we'll sum it up, because we know your parents don't want you surfing the Internet for hour after hour. Solid vegetable shortening has been around only for about a century, since the process of hydrogenation was developed in 1905. This process bubbles a bit of hydrogen through vegetable oil, which changes its chemical structure, and allows it to be a solid at room temperature.

Margarine has been around only a little longer — essentially since 1870, when it was based on the animal fat suet. Like vegetable shortening, oil-based margarines were only possible after 1905. So the use of butter in cookies — or a solid animal fat — preceded either margarine or vegetable shortening.

One reason you might use shortening in a cookie recipe is that it melts at a higher temperature, so the dough holds its shape longer in the oven, allowing the flour and eggs to set before the cookie collapses and spreads. So it is possible to produce a cookie that does not spread very much. Using butter or margarine (which has a melting point only a degree or two above butter) produces a cookie that spreads out more.

The primary reason you make cookies at home instead of picking one of the hundreds of packages off the shelf at the grocery store is that you can make a cookie that tastes a lot better than store-bought. From the perspective of taste — in our opinion — butter wins hands down. Vegetable shortening adds nothing to the flavor of a cookie, but virtually all store-bought cookies are made with it. Some people prefer the taste of margarine, however, and this is a democracy, after all.

http://www.ochef.com/960.htm
 
These are the things I learned the hard way are important:
1)fresh ingredients
2)properly tested oven temp/proper preheating
3)"good" cookie sheets (or parchment paper on old ones!)
4)"fresh" cookie sheet for each batch
5)removing cookies promptly to cooling rack (not allowing them to continue baking on hot sheet)
and most importantly
6)getting that blankety-blank butter at the right consistency (very hard in the winter in my house which we keep pretty cold, I swear sometimes I have to take it under the heated throw with me while I wait for the oven to preheat!)

Good luck!
Terri
 














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