California Grill

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I read this menu changed just recently. Is the menu listed on this site correct? The desserts and appetizers seem to have been cut in half.... am I right?
We have ADRs on Christmas Day, but maybe I should cancel them. Any advice?
We are on the DDP but will pay OOP for extras if needed.
We have never eaten there and was hoping to try it, but I was basing that on the old menu.
 
We'll be there on Nov 8th and I'm anxious to see how/if it's changed. It's always been one of our favorites so I'm hoping it remains on the "list". I'll probably do a review when we get back, so I'll let you know.
 
The sushi appetizers and the cheese plate were moved to the entree list so while it looks like the menu is smaller it really is about the same. You can still get them for an appy you'd just have to pay OOP.
 
I would be intrested as well, this was a fav of mone, but the changes look like cheaper ingedients. Hopefully there is still a good choiuce and good food, we need a few up to date reviews to make the judgment.
 

the cheese plate is absolutely to die for, I am so glad it's not gone completely....but how strange to call a cheese plate an entree. :confused3

Is this change related to the DDP? I have never seen a cheese plate listed as an entree anywhere. No matter, we will be ordering it no matter what category they place it under on the menu. ;)
 
They are constantly changing the menu at Cal. Grill based on what is in season, etc....or do you mean the layout of the menu? I think it will be fantastic no matter what!It is absolutely my favorite meal in all of WDW. Don't cancel!!!
 
MrsTink04 said:
They are constantly changing the menu at Cal. Grill based on what is in season, etc....or do you mean the layout of the menu? I think it will be fantastic no matter what!It is absolutely my favorite meal in all of WDW. Don't cancel!!!

I think this will be a great Christmas dinner. I had read some posts about the cheese plate and sushi being removed/moved. We are on DDP, but will pay OOP if we want something not included. I just wanted to be sure it wasn't changing to a lesser quality or "healthy" menu as has been discussed. I think is sounds great and know it may change due to season etc...
 
We just returned yesterday - ate at the CG on Friday night. My husband had the Tuna - Three Ways sushi for his appetizer. We were on the DDP and did not pay any extra for that. I think the California roll was also available as an appetizer. There was one sushi choice, sorry I can't remember the name, that was not available on the DDP. Hope that helps. BTW - we loved the restaurant!!!
 
I read this menu changed just recently. Is the menu listed on this site correct? The desserts and appetizers seem to have been cut in half.... am I right?
No. Several items have been 'redesignated', but all that's missing is one entree, a dessert that was VERY similar to another dessert, and one other dessert option (I think - I could be wrong on the last one). Two sushi-type items were ADDED to the current menu.

would be intrested as well, this was a fav of mone, but the changes look like cheaper ingedients.
Could you please explain what looks like cheaper ingredients? While the menu was redesigned from September to October, ALL menu items that appear on both menus are either identical, or were changed due to seasonal availability - most notably the salmon, which, while currently not wild salmon, DID drop in price by over 30%, to reflect the change.
 
kaytieeldr said:
No. Several items have been 'redesignated', but all that's missing is one entree, a dessert that was VERY similar to another dessert, and one other dessert option (I think - I could be wrong on the last one). Two sushi-type items were ADDED to the current menu.

Could you please explain what looks like cheaper ingredients? While the menu was redesigned from September to October, ALL menu items that appear on both menus are either identical, or were changed due to seasonal availability - most notably the salmon, which, while currently not wild salmon, DID drop in price by over 30%, to reflect the change.

Yes, I'll give you two examples. The filet with tamarid sauce is now with a Teryaki sauce, this is also offered at other resturants (Kona), so it is likey ths is ready prepared whereas thr Tamarind was unique. The Salmon is anohter example, thjis was served with a corn souffle, corn nectar and an avacado salsa, now it is served with Flava beans. Even if this were a seaonal thing (which i doubt) the chooice fo ingedients is not the same level IMHO. However, this had not been a seasonal dish for sometime.

If you compare the meny on here and the one at allearsnet.com they you can compare more directly.


I will add I hope my impressions of the menu are wrong, and hopefully we can get some reviews of the new menu soon.
 
bellefan7757 said:
We just returned yesterday - ate at the CG on Friday night. My husband had the Tuna - Three Ways sushi for his appetizer. We were on the DDP and did not pay any extra for that. I think the California roll was also available as an appetizer. There was one sushi choice, sorry I can't remember the name, that was not available on the DDP. Hope that helps. BTW - we loved the restaurant!!!


Great to get that "SUshi for an appetizer" thing clarified! Thanks so much!! what else did you order? any good suggestions?
 
I ordered the Three Cheese Flatbread as my appetizer - I could have made a meal out of that! For my entree I ordered grilled pork loin - it was delicious and very tender. My DH got the filet - he nearly licked his plate clean. For dessert he got the banana dessert (sorry, I forgot the name) and I had the chocolate lava cake with homemade raspberry ice cream. They were both outstanding - but I couldn't quite finish mine since I was so full!! We'll go back to the CG for sure on our next trip. You will not be disappointed.
 
Cheese plate as an entree? I think I've seen everything, now! We were at CG a week or so ago (not on DDP). We ordered appetizers, entrees and then shared the cheese plate for our cheese course. We followed this with a shared dessert. The meal was wonderful and, I agree, the cheese course was to die for. However, it is a cheese course and nothing more. It is not and never could appropriately be called an entree.

It seems that the DDP is (i) causing some weird shuffling of things such that something that is clearly an appetizer or dessert is suddenly an entree and (ii) losing value rapidly with such shuffling.

If DH and I had paid for DDP, we'd have had to forego the approx. $100 per night AP discount we got on our room. That's $700 right there. Plus, we'd pay approx. $40 per person per day for DDP. That's $560.

So, 7 days of DDP could be said to cost us about $1200. Even if you take the conservative $80 per day, I'm not sure I'm seeing the bargain.

For CG, we'd have to use two TS credits, so call it $160 (minus the cost of 2 days' worth of snacks $10 or so total and CS $30 or so total). $160-40 = $120.

For our CG dinner, we also had two glasses of pinot noir, followed by a 1/2 bottle of a lovely French Red. We also had one spiked coffee and one port. None of that would be included.

Now, if we'd had to purchase our sushi appetizer (approx. $20) plus our cheese plate (approx. $16), we'd take the $120 and add $36 plus tip and tax for that so $50. Now we've paid about $170 for our dinner for two.

With wine and alcohol and a very generous tip for our excellent waiter, our dinner (using the DDE experience) came to $225. The wines and alcohol were at least $70 alone.

Frankly, we did better buying our meal OOP using DDE than we'd have done with the DDP, given the current menu and categorization of things like the cheese plate as an entree. And, we did better paying OOP even if you don't take into account the we'd have had to pay rack rate for our room had we purchased DDP!!

One thing is for sure -- WDW introduced the DDP with great fanfare and has made it appear to be a great value. But, they are systematically chipping away at everything that made it a great value. Perhaps that was always the plan? Get people hooked on it by making it a loss leader, and then systematically make changes to menus (including kids' menus) until the DDP price is in line with the food/service cost! Certainly seems to be the approach.

In any event, a cheese plate (even a fabulous one!) does not an entree make. And, making the cheese plate an entree cannot with a straight face be called a "seasonal change"!
 
Amyrlin said:
Yes, I'll give you two examples. The filet with tamarid sauce is now with a Teryaki sauce, this is also offered at other resturants (Kona), so it is likey ths is ready prepared whereas thr Tamarind was unique. The Salmon is anohter example, thjis was served with a corn souffle, corn nectar and an avacado salsa, now it is served with Flava beans. Even if this were a seaonal thing (which i doubt) the chooice fo ingedients is not the same level IMHO. However, this had not been a seasonal dish for sometime.
Okay, I apologize for the filet - I only have access to the 9/06 and 10/06 menus, so I don't know how it was prepared prior to that.
The salmon change is seasonal in that WILD SALMON IS NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, aka it's NOT IN SEASON. Since wild salmon isn't available, California Grill offers an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT salmon entree at an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT price - wild salmon at $38 is, for the time being, replaced by Atlantic salmon at $28,,, a price REDUCTION of over 25% (I believe I stated 30% elsewhere, which was a mistake in my calculations). Even if I'm wrong and it IS a permanent change, Disney's not trying to put one over on diners. They dropped the price. Drastically.


ElizabethB said:
If DH and I had paid for DDP, we'd have had to forego the approx. $100 per night AP discount we got on our room. That's $700 right there. Plus, we'd pay approx. $40 per person per day for DDP. That's $560.

So, 7 days of DDP could be said to cost us about $1200. Even if you take the conservative $80 per day, I'm not sure I'm seeing the bargain.
Which is why it doesn't work for everyone!!!!!

ElizabethB said:
In any event, a cheese plate (even a fabulous one!) does not an entree make. And, making the cheese plate an entree cannot with a straight face be called a "seasonal change"!
I never said it was. California Grill changed the designation on some of its dishes, now indicating they're entrees. ASIDE FROM THAT, they made some seasonal/availability-based changes to the actual menu choices.
I don't get the big deal. Diners on the DDP who want sushi may now have to consider it their entree; ditto for the cheese plate. Diners NOT on the DDP can order whatever they want as any course they want and pay for it. What's the issue?
 
ElizabethB said:
One thing is for sure -- WDW introduced the DDP with great fanfare and has made it appear to be a great value. But, they are systematically chipping away at everything that made it a great value. Perhaps that was always the plan? Get people hooked on it by making it a loss leader, and then systematically make changes to menus (including kids' menus) until the DDP price is in line with the food/service cost! Certainly seems to be the approach.

Ah Elizabeth, you're my kind of Dis'er. A very smart one at that. :thumbsup2
 
Wow - glad we went when we went - plus it was during free dining :thumbsup2 We had two deluxe sushi apps - and I also had the wild salmon (I like my salmon "cooked", this was pretty ahi tuna raw so I didn't even really enjoy it though, left most of it actually, still I got to try it - I would have been super choked if it had cost me $38) :thumbsup2 :thumbsup2 Sorry, I sound like I'm bragging that we got in before the changes but I know this will probably be the only time we will ever go so I'm glad that the expensive bottle of wine we had evened out our free dining :cheer2:
 
Interestingly, moving a cheese plate to the entree category for those on the DDP is really just a disguised surcharge when all is said and done! If you want the cheese plate as anything but an entree, you'll have to pay OOP for it. You can't have it as either an appetizer or dessert if you're on DDP (the only places in a meal that a cheese plate makes any sense). Since a cheese plate is not an entree, getting the cheese plate requires a surcharge (unless you want to eat what, at least for us, would be a very weird meal).

So, for all those who think Disney isn't instituting surcharges for DDP, think again!! The surcharges are just (somewhat) hidden by Disney's reshuffling of the menu choices.

Still, a surcharge by any other name . . . . .
 


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