buying resale same user year?

[disneyobessed]

Looking into buying another DVC contract! OUr current user year is DEC.. how much of a pain in the but will it be if we buy resale with a different user year.. we were thinking anything around oct nov or dec should be ok knowing will book based on getting our DEC points.

 

[drusba]

If you buy December, you need to inform Disney before closing that you want the resale points to be made part of the same contract sequence as your main points. If you don't do that, Disney may just treat the new contract as if it were a completely separate owner and it will end being just like having separate use years.

As to having separate use years: reason to do so would be to set it up so that you avoid the cancellation/banking issue, i.e., with two use years you can make it so that you can go any time of year and never have to worry about going too late in a use year for which cancellation could result in being unable to bank the points.

We have two use years essentially for that purpose. It is not much of a hassle. Main thing you need to remember is that it is like being two separate owners. You cannot mix the points from both contracts to reserve a single night. Instead, for any trip where you want to use points from both, you need to reserve some nights with one contract, the rest with the other, and then link the reservations. Alternatively, you could transfer points from one contract to the other but you can only do that once per use year -- since the contracts are treated as if there are separate owners, you can transfer out of one and into the other and that would count as your one transfer per use year for each contract.

The rest is just getting two of some things -- you get two separate dues bills; if automatic monthly withdrawal of dues from your account you get two separate withdrawals. Nevertheless, you should get only one annual planner and usually only one letter from DVD when it sends out special notices on anything.

You are not going to find a Nov use year because Nov is not a use year month. If you are buying a separate use year, then you should consider the purpose I stated above and thus make it so it can cover the cancellation/banking issue where your Dec use year would be a problem, meaning it would cover trips that might occur in Aug through Nov within the first eight months of the use year, such as a June use year.

 

[disneyobessed]

we always plan ahead about 11 mos in advance..last minute trips are not an option b/c I'm a teacher.

 

[Sandisw]

I think that if you are going to go with a 2nd UY, then you need to make sure it is big enough to do what you want to do with it since you can't combine the points with your other UY without a transfer.

We owned two at one time and my second UY didn't have enough points to book two nights and my first UY didn't have enough points to book 4 nights so at 11 months, I could not book my entire 5 night summer trip without borrowing on one of the contracts. However, if one of my contracts had been bigger, it would have been okay.

 

[disneyobessed]

My first contract is 160 at AKV UY DEC... second 1 im looking at SSR for around 100 UY SEPT

So here is the scenerio If I go in August.2012. can I book my trip at AKV at 11 mos out in January using both set of points??

 

[sarahk0204]

My first contract is 160 at AKV UY DEC... second 1 im looking at SSR for around 100 UY SEPT

So here is the scenerio If I go in August.2012. can I book my trip at AKV at 11 mos out in January using both set of points??

No, because SSR points are not AKV points.

From further reading you post, I think you meant to say that you want to book at 7 months. In that case, you can combine points at that time.

 

[disneyobessed]

No, because SSR points are not AKV points.

From further reading you post, I think you meant to say that you want to book at 7 months. In that case, you can combine points at that time.

YES.. that is what I meant.. booking at AKV as long as its is 7 mos out from my SSR points UY I can use both sets of points correct?

 

[donaldbuzz&minnie]

We have 2 UY's and I wish I hadn't done that. It's so much easier to take all the points I need from one UY than fiddle around with making a reservation for 3 of the 7 days from one UY (with a few pts left that need to be banked) and combine that with the 4 remaining days from the 2nd UY (having to borrow from the next year to make up the points I can't use from the points in the 1st UY I had to bank.) It's just a hassle, not the end of the world, but I wouldn't do it again.

 

[disneyobessed]

If I bought another AKV contract with the same user year could I combine the contracts??

 

[Kidanifan08]

If I bought another AKV contract with the same user year could I combine the contracts??

This is possible. If the new contract is set up right, I think this may happen automatically, or it may take a call to MS.

If you only plan to use your DVC for one trip annually, the simplest thing to do is find a contract with the same use year at your current home resort. That is not always easy, because sometimes the smaller contract are harder to come by.

If there is a small contract at your home resort with a different UY, this can be used for an annual trip as well, since you can transfer the points from one contract to the other. The transferred points will retain the same UY rules as the original contract (ie, if it is a June UY that you are transferring from, those would still need to be banked by the end of January once the points are transferred to you other contract), so you will need to look closely at when you are planning your trip and make sure you do not miss the banking window. Once points are transferred, you can still bank them to the next UY, but you cannot borrow them or transfer them again.

Buying a small contract at a different home resort with the plan to use them in combination with your current home resort once a year completely eliminates the 11 month window for booking. This is an enticing option, since SSR points come relatively cheaply on the resale market, but there may be a time when you really need that 11 month window, so it may not be worth the savings in the long run.

We recently added on a small AKV contract to our original AKV contract. We have a December UY and the small contract is Aug. It will be a bit of an accounting game to use the points annually, but we only needed a few more points, and there was not a Dec UY contract available at the time we added on. I could certainly see adding on a small BWV contract at some point in time with enough points to use every 2-3 years for F&W, since the 11 month window is so important during that time of year. But, we need to finish paying for what we've got first!

I hope this helps.

 

[laura-k]

If I bought another AKV contract with the same user year could I combine the contracts??

Yes ,We went back and forth with this and also thought about adding on at a separate resort ,but after thinking it over we decided to add on at our home with the same use year -
The TSS noted it on the resale contract that I wanted them listed with the original contract and someone from member services called me when they where inputing it and asked me a couple things also ,and it all worked out great !

 

[Checkers]

Some members don't seem to mind different UY, however, we have an Oct. UY. We bought originally from Disney at OKW and then added more points resale there. Then in 2009 we bought BWVs resale. They are all Oct. UY but listed under one membership number. For us it just makes it easier to make our reservations at the 11 mo. window and use what points we need using all three contracts. To date we haven't had any issues.

 

[treehugnmama]

If you have the same use year but different resort canthey be combined? I signed closing soca today

 

[laura-k]

If you have the same use year but different resort canthey be combined? I signed closing soca today

No, not at 11 months they would only be good at the home resort until the 7 month mark then you could see if you could add on to the original reservation from the other contract from the other resort -at 7 months all points are pretty much the same -It's usually availability at that point -
Hope that makes sense,I wasn't sure how to say it-