Buying multiple tickets for more fastpasses

[magicbob]

Better idea: buy the extra ticket, let ME use it, and I'll stay near you all day and you can use my FP+ reservations (I'll get the ones you want, of course). Disney gets more money, you get double the fast passes, I get a free day at Disney.

Win-Win-Win!!!

BEST... IDEA... EVER!!!

Sign me up as a donor. Anyone who'd like me to validate their extra tickets at the turnstile in order to use extra FPs, feel free to PM me.

 

[JimmyV]

This is an interesting concept. I ran the numbers a little differently using our typical style. We would buy a 5-day ticket on the next trip and always park hop. So a cost per person would be as follows.

5-day ticket = $289
Park Hopper = $59
Total = $348
Total/Day = $69.60

However, if we decided to buy an extra ticket for each day and get rid of the park hopper option this would still allow us to hop but would also give us 3 FP+ at the evening/night park of choice.

5-day ticket x2 = $578
Total/Day = $115.60

So what does this mean those extra FPs cost?

$115.60 - $69.60 = $46

$46 / 3 fast passes = $15.33 per FP+ per day

I'm not a proponent of this idea as I don't think the value is there given the current tiering and other rules. However, I do think this shows a way to provide more value to a person who might be considering it assuming they would also normally buy a hopper.

I think that what your math shows (and mine above) is that there is a "luxury price" that is certainly within reach of many people who go to WDW that some would be willing to pay for what they perceive to be an "upgraded" experience, the way V&A is a luxury priced "upgraded" experience over, say, 'Ohana. Disney will soon figure this out if they haven't already and work to capture that market. As long as Disney continues to attrract people who are willing to pay $700+ for a room at the GF during peak times, then the amount that people are willing to pay for upgraded park experiences hasn't begun to be tapped yet.

 

[glamdring269]

I think that what your math shows (and mine above) is that there is a "luxury price" that is certainly within reach of many people who go to WDW that some would be willing to pay for what they perceive to be an "upgraded" experience, the way V&A is a luxury priced "upgraded" experience over, say, 'Ohana. Disney will soon figure this out if they haven't already and work to capture that market. As long as Disney continues to attrract people who are willing to pay $700+ for a room at the GF during peak times, then the amount that people are willing to pay for upgraded park experiences hasn't begun to be tapped yet.

Yep I agree that it's coming. I also have to admit that I would consider paying for that experience. I wouldn't pay for extra tickets to get additional FP+ in its current form but would I pay extra for 5 or 10 FP+ per day for any ride I want in any park in a given day? Potentially.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

Yep I agree that it's coming. I also have to admit that I would consider paying for that experience. I wouldn't pay for extra tickets to get additional FP+ in its current form but would I pay extra for 5 or 10 FP+ per day for any ride I want in any park in a given day? Potentially.

Consider a couple traveling without children using the free dining plan. Consider them staying for 10 days. By adding 2 ficticional teens to their reservation, they could get twice the number of meals and FP+ reservations for an additional $722. That is actually a pretty good bargain.

 

[chartle]

Consider a couple traveling without children using the free dining plan. Consider them staying for 10 days. By adding 2 ficticional teens to their reservation, they could get twice the number of meals and FP+ reservations for an additional $722. That is actually a pretty good bargain.

Except I have read that for free dining everyone has to be present at check in. So you would have to hire some locals to pretend to be your kids.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

Except I have read that for free dining everyone has to be present at check in. So you would have to hire some locals to pretend to be your kids.

Nope - we have never brought our boys in at check-in on any of our trips, free dining or otherwise.

 

[morethananyonex]

Count us in as another who have checked in for a FD stay with only 2/4 present.

 

[cygnusx1jg]

This thread reminds me of some of the antics Kramer did on Seinfeld to get extra miles on airline tickets.

 

[JohnneeO]

It seems like WDW can tap into this by adding an upgrade, and maybe call it the FPP+ option. (Fast Pass Plus Plus).

"For only $XX, add extra FP+ options to your theme park ticket!"

Pick a dollar figure, pick a number of extra FP+'s.

Off the top my head;

$10 for one extra FP+ not Tier one
$15 for one extra FP+ Tier One.

Can be used on any day during your stay; Can be purchased in bulk for a lower per FP+ rate.

Once the beta is over, and the MB's & FP+ are running smoothly, adding tweaks like this should be the easy part.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

I have been thinking about the free dining scenario - consider the costs/savings for a couple staying in a moderate resort.

The cost to upgrade a meal plan from DDP to DxDP = $46.28/night/person

Now, having twice the number of DDP credits isn't exactly the same as having the DxDP, but it is pretty close. A party of two, with 4xDDP would have 4 snacks, 4 QS and 4 TS meals/day to share. They could easily meet their dining needs with that many credits - even if they like to splurge a few times/trip. And each member of the couple would also have 6 FP+ each day instead of 3. All for about $36/day/person.

So, eat anywhere that you want and double your FP+ reservations for the cost of an extra ticket per person. Pretty sweet deal.

This should go in the FP+ planning thread.

 

[morethananyonex]

I have been thinking about the free dining scenario - consider the costs/savings for a couple staying in a moderate resort. The cost to upgrade a meal plan from DDP to DxDP = $46.28/night/person Now, having twice the number of DDP credits isn't exactly the same as having the DxDP, but it is pretty close. A party of two, with 4xDDP would have 4 snacks, 4 QS and 4 TS meals/day to share. They could easily meet their dining needs with that many credits - even if they like to splurge a few times/trip. And each member of the couple would also have 6 FP+ each day instead of 3. All for about $36/day/person. So, eat anywhere that you want and double your FP+ reservations for the cost of an extra ticket per person. Pretty sweet deal. This should go in the FP+ planning thread.

That is a seriously awesome deal when you break it down like that. Makes me wish our room wasn't filled to capacity for our FD trip coming up in a few days!

 

[jcemom]

This is an interesting concept. I ran the numbers a little differently using our typical style. We would buy a 5-day ticket on the next trip and always park hop. So a cost per person would be as follows.

5-day ticket = $289
Park Hopper = $59
Total = $348
Total/Day = $69.60

However, if we decided to buy an extra ticket for each day and get rid of the park hopper option this would still allow us to hop but would also give us 3 FP+ at the evening/night park of choice.

5-day ticket x2 = $578
Total/Day = $115.60

So what does this mean those extra FPs cost?

$115.60 - $69.60 = $46

$46 / 3 fast passes = $15.33 per FP+ per day

I'm not a proponent of this idea as I don't think the value is there given the current tiering and other rules. However, I do think this shows a way to provide more value to a person who might be considering it assuming they would also normally buy a hopper.

That's actually not as crazy expensive as I thought, when you break it down like you have. *I* wouldn't pay that much, just because I don't like spending more than I have to, but I know people who would.

 

[Mrsjvb]

Thanks for the quick responses. Essentially, this method costs about $23 per FP+ reservation, assuming 4-day tickets.

As it stands, Disney has lost our business because of FP+. This method is the only way I'd consider going back. Any "improvements" they make to FP+ will hopefully make this strategy more appealing.

NO ride is worth $23 just to ride it one extra time or using the FP line...

In fact I don't get the need to ride any ride more than once or twice in a trip. I mean I have my limits on stand by but gee whiz is it that necessary to ride RRC multiple times a day?!

 

[magicbob]

This thread reminds me of some of the antics Kramer did on Seinfeld to get extra miles on airline tickets.

How about driving the bottles and cans out of state in the mail truck to get the deposits?

 

[btk2333]

NO ride is worth $23 just to ride it one extra time or using the FP line...

In fact I don't get the need to ride any ride more than once or twice in a trip. I mean I have my limits on stand by but gee whiz is it that necessary to ride RRC multiple times a day?!

For you it is not- for other people it may be. Is it necessary to spend $175 per person on dinner at V&A? No but that does not mean I haven't done it and will not do it again... Nothing on any vacation is "necessary," It all just depends on how you prioritize your money and what you value on vacation.

 

[jcemom]

In fact I don't get the need to ride any ride more than once or twice in a trip. I mean I have my limits on stand by but gee whiz is it that necessary to ride RRC multiple times a day?!

Yes. Yes, it is. We always ride our favorites in each park multiple times per day -- not just in the Disney parks, but other parks as well. I won't wait in a standby line longer than 20 minutes. That's one of the reasons we liked the FP system as it was.

For you it is not- for other people it may be. Is it necessary to spend $175 per person on dinner at V&A? No but that does not mean I haven't done it and will not do it again... Nothing on any vacation is "necessary," It all just depends on how you prioritize your money and what you value on vacation.

 

[DisneyDaddy-O]

IMO...

I don't think it's going to be very long before Disney puts together a tier system with resorts and FP+. Value gets 3, Mod gets 4, Deluxe gets 5 and maybe concierge gets 6.

 

[btk2333]

IMO...

I don't think it's going to be very long before Disney puts together a tier system with resorts and FP+. Value gets 3, Mod gets 4, Deluxe gets 5 and maybe concierge gets 6.

I would say this sort of set up is very likely as well.

 

[TDC Nala]

Except I have read that for free dining everyone has to be present at check in. So you would have to hire some locals to pretend to be your kids.

They used to do this. They don't anymore. Instead of using this type of method to prevent parties from adding "phantom teenagers" to their reservations and getting extra sets of free dining credits for only the price of some extra one-day tickets, they increased the ticket limit for free dining to 2 days. This no doubt didn't discourage everyone - there are more than likely some guests who are willing to buy a couple more sets of 2 day tickets in order to get extra free dining credits - but far fewer than there were who thought it worthwhile to buy extra one-day tickets. And hey, now they might buy length of stay tickets just to get more fastpasses. That's worth it for Disney.

If somebody wants to purchase two full sets of tickets in order to get six fastpasses a day instead of three...OK, if that's what they want to do. I can't think there will be many guests doing it.

One day, you may see annual passholders renting out their magic bands to give other guests extra FP+ selections. For sure, if enough folks are willing to pay $23 per fastpass. That's $69 for three fastpasses. not too shabby.

 

[StitchesGr8Fan]

I think it would be great if lots of people did this. Really! Think about it. If enough people swiped 2 bands instead of 1 for admission, the parks would be less crowded during peak times because the computer would think the park was at capacity.

However, I'm sure Disney will close this loophole by making people scan their band to leave the park. Because 1 person is not spending as much money on food and souvenirs as 2 people, and that is the whole goal of FP+ - get people out of lines and in shops/restaurants spending money.