Buying a puppy online???

[kacaju]

If you want to buy a puppy, fine. Buy one. But for Pete's sake, take a stand. Say," I don't care how many pound dogs die, I want a shnoodledingle". And say it with pride...Don't use your families "safety and happiness" as your excuse. There are millions of families in the US who are very happy and safe with their pets who were adopted at shelters.

Just because I choose to buy purebred dogs (we show dogs) does not mean I don't care if *pound puppies die*
And for the record I do own a mix breed from the shelter as well as my purebreds.

 

[tammymacb]

And I've said repeatedly, if you chose to buy a dog from a responsible breeder, fine. Have at it. But don't say you "can't" adopt because you have to keep your family safe. It's ridiculous.

 

[luvmy3]

Not quite. It's about me challenging excuses made of why you shouldn't adopt shelter dogs. If you'd like to make it more personal, you may want to find someone who cares more about what you think.

No actually its not about that at all and I really don't care if you don't care what I think, I'm not the one here trying to get people to care what I have to say. Its about you, who seems to be very passionate about this particular subject. You come here and post your opinions and some facts to help the readers understand where you are coming from and why. However, you let your emotions get the better of you,ou started out making good points, but I guess they just thought they weren't good enough, so you start to disrespect those same people you want to inform. So, I'll say it again, Good Luck with that because by the way you go about it at least here on the DIS, you are definitely going to need it. You should just let your siggy line do the talking from now on.

 

[tammymacb]

I didn't ask you to be my friend or my mentor. Sorry if you don't like my tone, but in the end, I don't care what you think. Nor, do I need you to be my personality coach...

 

[kacaju]

And I've said repeatedly, if you chose to buy a dog from a responsible breeder, fine. Have at it. But don't say you "can't" adopt because you have to keep your family safe. It's ridiculous.

I don't think it is ridculous. To be honest. I just took a quick look on petfinder and most all of the breeds that came up are pitbulls I saw maybe one or two dogs there that i would recommend for a friend with kids to consider, most of them, no way.
They maybe sweet dogs, but I would not own a pitbullor a pit mix. To each there own.
To be fair I only looked at the first two pages go look yourself zip is 08840.

Off to dog handling class.

 

[FredS]

...We wanted a Doxie, because it was the best fit for our familt. Itintally i was willing to take the risk and go the resuce route b/c it is small breed dogand not going to do the kind of damage the Shepard did to my friend. .... I would NEVER adopt a large breed dog from a shelter, becuase you just don't know the dog's history. Have many families been happy? Of course, but many have also returned dogs too tramautized to function in family and dogs with mental healt issues that result from poor breeding. The odds are much better that you are getting a happy well adjusted dog from a good breeder than from a shelter....My child's safety is more important to me than saving a dog. I am not willing to risk it.

Whoa, surely I am misunderstanding. Your earlier post said "Doxie" but ?? You repeatedly have talked about all the research you have done and how important breeding is so you will know exactly what you are getting, and talking about safety with a dog and your young child and your choice of dog was a DACHSHUND??!! Seriously?

Dachshunds can absolutely be adorable and smart and lots of fun. But, as a breed, they are one of the most jealous dogs, and are prone to growling and snapping. I like them, and have a couple of family members who wouldn't own anything else, but they freely admit they aren't the best choice of pet to have with a small child.

 

[luvmy3]

I didn't ask you to be my friend or my mentor. Sorry if you don't like my tone, but in the end, I don't care what you think. Nor, do I need you to be my personality coach...

Oh I see, you have no problem giving advice, only taking it. gotcha And you don't have to worry, the last thing I care about, is being your friend or anything

Good luck with your cause

 

[Swimalie]

What a sad story, that poor dog. I have a Cairn and yes she has an odor (not always just after we spend time outdoors) but I keep her clean as possible, I couldn't inagine forcing her to live outside, if it ever came to that (which it wouldn't) i'd try to find her a home where people wouldn't do that. If the dog developed an odor after a year, it may have had a bacterial infection.
No offense to you, but your inlaws shouldn't be pet owners.

The good news is now my mother in law owns a pure bred,from a breeder show dog and takes great care of it. The dog, not a Carin, just won first place at his last show.

 

[dixonismydog]

Whoa, surely I am misunderstanding. Your earlier post said "Doxie" but ?? You repeatedly have talked about all the research you have done and how important breeding is so you will know exactly what you are getting, and talking about safety with a dog and your young child and your choice of dog was a DACHSHUND??!! Seriously?

Dachshunds can absolutely be adorable and smart and lots of fun. But, as a breed, they are one of the most jealous dogs, and are prone to growling and snapping. I like them, and have a couple of family members who wouldn't own anything else, but they freely admit they aren't the best choice of pet to have with a small child.

I have to disagree with you. I have 2 Doxies that are excellent with everyone. From 1 yr to 80 yrs....they love everyone! But....I did get them as puppies....and I know their history.

 

[luvmy3]

The good news is now my mother in law owns a pure bred,from a breeder show dog and takes great care of it. The dog, not a Carin, just won first place at his last show.

I'm glad that she takes good care of the dog she has now. Its still sad that the other was only let in the house to eat. Odor or not, thats not how you treat a family pet. What would have happen if this one had a flaw?

 

[dixonismydog]

And I've said repeatedly, if you chose to buy a dog from a responsible breeder, fine. Have at it. But don't say you "can't" adopt because you have to keep your family safe. It's ridiculous.

Totally disagree. I won't risk my kids safety either. It's not ridiculous. Not a bit. And it's not an excuse. Not that I "couldn't" adopt.......I chose not to.

I give my local shelter hundreds of dollars a year in donations.......and I've taken in dozens of stray/wounded animals over the years. I am a TOTAL animal lover......But for me.....it's not fair for my kids, or their friends, to be at risk playing with a dog with a sketchy past. For me, I need to know the dog's entire history.

 

[princessmom29]

You do get that many "mental health issues" in dogs are CAUSED by close breeding correct? There have been many breeds ruined because they became mainstream popular. ( IE cocker spaniels ) So, if you're looking for a dog that doesn't have mental/physical issues from poor breeding, you should really be looking for a mutt.

carefully bred purebred dogs don't typically have mental health issues either. You obviously aren't going to listen to reason. I give up.

Whoa, surely I am misunderstanding. Your earlier post said "Doxie" but ?? You repeatedly have talked about all the research you have done and how important breeding is so you will know exactly what you are getting, and talking about safety with a dog and your young child and your choice of dog was a DACHSHUND??!! Seriously?

Dachshunds can absolutely be adorable and smart and lots of fun. But, as a breed, they are one of the most jealous dogs, and are prone to growling and snapping. I like them, and have a couple of family members who wouldn't own anything else, but they freely admit they aren't the best choice of pet to have with a small child.

I don't find that to be true at all. There have always been mini doxies in the family. We had one growing up, so did DH, DH's mom and my mom. Never any problems with children. I did see it mentioned a couple of places that full size doxies can be possessive, but according to what I read it is much less prevelant in minis, particularly longhairs, which is what we have. We spent a lot of time with Bella before bringing her home to be sure she was a good fit for all of us, including DD. The only thing she barks at is the neighbor's cat, and has never snapped at anyone. I have never known a doxie to snap, and have been around at least a dozen on a regular basis. None I have ever been around has a problem with children and it was nowhere in the literature I read. Plus, an 8 lb dog is not going to do the kind of damage a pit bull will if something were to happen, which is highly unlikely. Nothing I have read asys they are not good with children. Bella and my DD are best buds.

 

[labdogs42]

http://www.bayoubay.com/

If I were ever to buy a puppy, it would probably be from these people...Take a look at the website and their sales and conditions and ask yourself what other online breeders require.

OMG, those are some beautiful Labs! I'll be bookmarking their site for my future reference!

 

[deedeetoo]

Your earlier post said "Doxie" but ?? You repeatedly have talked about all the research you have done and how important breeding is so you will know exactly what you are getting, and talking about safety with a dog and your young child and your choice of dog was a DACHSHUND??!!

This is sort of off topic but I had to laugh. Throughout this thread princessmom29 has been talking about her doxie. I had never head of a doxie and just throught that must be the dog's name. This post made me realize that all along she had been talking about a dachshund. I don't know any one who owns a dachshund and had never heard of them referred to like that. I feel quite foolish.

 

[princessmom29]

This is sort of off topic but I had to laugh. Throughout this thread princessmom29 has been talking about her doxie. I had never head of a doxie and just throught that must be the dog's name. This post made me realize that all along she had been talking about a dachshund. I don't know any one who owns a dachshund and had never heard of them referred to like that. I feel quite foolish.

Sorry! Don't feel bad! It was my fault for not typing the whole thing. I didn't even think about it b/c that is what we have always called them!

 

[dixonismydog]

carefully bred purebred dogs don't typically have mental health issues either. You obviously aren't going to listen to reason. I give up.

I don't find that to be true at all. There have always been mini doxies in the family. We had one growing up, so did DH, DH's mom and my mom. Never any problems with children. I did see it mentioned a couple of places that full size doxies can be possessive, but according to what I read it is much less prevelant in minis, particularly longhairs, which is what we have. We spent a lot of time with Bella before bringing her home to be sure she was a good fit for all of us, including DD. The only thing she barks at is the neighbor's cat, and has never snapped at anyone. I have never known a doxie to snap, and have been around at least a dozen on a regular basis. None I have ever been around has a problem with children and it was nowhere in the literature I read. Plus, an 8 lb dog is not going to do the kind of damage a pit bull will if something were to happen, which is highly unlikely. Nothing I have read asys they are not good with children. Bella and my DD are best buds.

We have mini long-haired as well! English cream and a silver dapple!

 

[CinRell]

carefully bred purebred dogs don't typically have mental health issues either. You obviously aren't going to listen to reason. I give up.

I don't find that to be true at all. There have always been mini doxies in the family. We had one growing up, so did DH, DH's mom and my mom. Never any problems with children. I did see it mentioned a couple of places that full size doxies can be possessive, but according to what I read it is much less prevelant in minis, particularly longhairs, which is what we have. We spent a lot of time with Bella before bringing her home to be sure she was a good fit for all of us, including DD. The only thing she barks at is the neighbor's cat, and has never snapped at anyone. I have never known a doxie to snap, and have been around at least a dozen on a regular basis. None I have ever been around has a problem with children and it was nowhere in the literature I read. Plus, an 8 lb dog is not going to do the kind of damage a pit bull will if something were to happen, which is highly unlikely. Nothing I have read asys they are not good with children. Bella and my DD are best buds.

Pit bulls were once called the nanny dogs... they were war heros. Until the media and irresponsible owners painted such a negative picture of them...

Cocker Spaniels send more people to the hospital with bite wounds than pits do each year. Even fighting pits are bred so that in the middle of a bloody (disgusting) fight, a human can reach between and separate the dogs without being bit.

Please don't use pits as the example of a biting dog. That only ads to the problem many of us who know and understand the breed are trying to fight.

People who want a certain breed and want to go to a breeder for it but "don't care about breed standards" baffle me. It is clear you are not supporting a responsible breeder if don't even care about standards to the characteristics of that breed, is it not??

 

[FredS]

This is sort of off topic but I had to laugh. Throughout this thread princessmom29 has been talking about her doxie. I had never head of a doxie and just throught that must be the dog's name. This post made me realize that all along she had been talking about a dachshund. I don't know any one who owns a dachshund and had never heard of them referred to like that. I feel quite foolish.

I know! As I said, I am very familiar with dachshunds and them being referred to as doxies, but I was like she picked THAT breed specifically because of safety issues with a small child? Wow. I even thought MAYBE she just happened to pick that name for her dog which was a breed known for its patience with kids and gentle nature. Apparently not!

Even lovers of dachshunds freely acknowledge the breed's inclination towards possessiveness and irritability with children and strangers. Here's just one reference online, but there are tons of them, and it is really common knowledge.

http://www.dachworld.com/dispositiontemperament.htm

I dunno, I just don't get "I don't want to gamble on a mixed breed; let me buy a purebred dog that is more difficult with children than most." LOL

 

[dixonismydog]

I know! As I said, I am very familiar with dachshunds and them being referred to as doxies, but I was like she picked THAT breed specifically because of safety issues with a small child? Wow. I even thought MAYBE she just happened to pick that name for her dog which was a breed known for its patience with kids and gentle nature. Apparently not!

Even lovers of dachshunds freely acknowledge the breed's inclination towards possessiveness and irritability with children and strangers. Here's just one reference online, but there are tons of them, and it is really common knowledge.

http://www.dachworld.com/dispositiontemperament.htm

I dunno, I just don't get "I don't want to gamble on a mixed breed; let me buy a purebred dog that is more difficult with children than most." LOL

It's not the mix breed that is a gamble to me. I have no issue with having a dog that isn't a purebred. I do feel, that I need to know the dogs history and the way it's been cared for and handled since birth. Even a puppy that has been miss handled at a few weeks old, is starting to learn it's defense mechanisms. I felt it was safer for my kids, that I deal with a breeder that has children in the puppies lives from only a few days old.

I do hear what you are saying, about doxies being a little tempermental. I have just never experienced it. My vet has 6 in her office, that wander freely. All the kids that come in, head over, pick them up, twirl them around and they have no issues with it.

Actually the meanest dog I have ever encountered, was a Golden Retriever......the breed that is supposed to be EXCELLENT with kids!

 

[princessmom29]

We have mini long-haired as well! English cream and a silver dapple!

ours is an English Cream. She is the sweetest girl ever and very good with kids. The whole neighborhood loves her.