Bush sets record-longest vacation in recent history

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transparant said:
After the day I've had...I could care less. Like I said - glad you got a laugh at my expense.

Since you don't want to discuss it on the thread you started....did you know the man and his family that died?

Did you know that the soldier who died no longer wanted to be there and was disappointed because the military was failing to provide the type of equipment that might have saved his life?


Kulick’s unit was sent to Iraq in December.

At first, he believed in the war. But then that changed.

“He had a lot of faith in the war when he went in,” his father said. “But he lost that faith.”

Kulick described to his father how the Americans would take over a town, but then as soon as they left, the insurgents would take it right back.

And how he could no longer trust the women and children not to turn against them.

“He said it was a big quagmire, and he couldn’t wait to get out of it,” his father said.

Kulick was also distressed that the military, despite promises, continued to send soldiers out on patrol in vehicles with makeshift armor, or no armor at all, his father said.

When he came home for two weeks earlier this summer, he told family and friends he didn’t want to go back.

“He was scared stiff,” his father said. “And he was a brave guy.”
 
peachgirl said:
Since you don't want to discuss it on the thread you started....did you know the man and his family that died?

Did you know that the soldier who died no longer wanted to be there and was disappointed because the military was failing to provide the type of equipment that might have saved his life?


I don't want to discuss it with you either. What I saw today was nothing short of honor and respect for a man who deserved it. What I heard today in the church were stories about a man who was damn proud to serve his country.

Oh...and for what it's worth - I didn't know this soldier or his family. This isn't the first military funeral I've attended either. I pay my respects to our fallen hero's whenever I can if they are in my vicinity.
 
Charade said:
(probably covered already buy worth repeating anyway...)

Really? She must have had amnesia and forgot he reenlisted. Do you really think he would like the way his mother is "honoring" his death?

The soldier I was referring to in my last post "wanted" to go too. Perhaps Ms.Sheehan knew her son as well as that man knew his.

And yes, I do.
 
transparant said:
I don't want to discuss it with you either. What I saw today was nothing short of honor and respect for a man who deserved it. What I heard today in the church were stories about a man who was damn proud to serve his country.

Oh...and for what it's worth - I didn't know this soldier or his family. This isn't the first military funeral I've attended either. I pay my respects to our fallen hero's whenever I can if they are in my vicinity.

If you don't want anyone to comment, don't post then. You can discuss it or not, but the honest thing to do and a better way to honor a fallen soldier is to be honest about what happened and what he thought.

He was unhappy with the war, he was unhappy with the way the military was providing for them. It's a terrible thing that he died and made even more so by the fact that he didn't want to be there and thought that those in charge weren't doing a good job.

The fact that he was still proud to serve his country proves what we liberals have been screaming to rooftops......

One can disagree with their leaders and still love their country.
 

peachgirl said:
If you don't want anyone to comment, don't post then. You can discuss it or not, but the honest thing to do and a better way to honor a fallen soldier is to be honest about what happened and what he thought.

He was unhappy with the war, he was unhappy with the way the military was providing for them. It's a terrible thing that he died and made even more so by the fact that he didn't want to be there.


DID YOU READ THIS ALSO?!?!


The Sept. 11 terrorist attacks spurred him to join the National Guard in September 2003, his father said.

"He wanted to fight the terrorists - not here, but over there," Jim Kulick said. "He wanted to keep the terrorism from not only his daughter, but everyone here."

John Kulick, 35, was the father of 9-year-old Amanda Mae Kulick. She lives with Kulick's ex-wife in York County.

But while he was passionate about fighting terrorism, he was also passionate about freeing the Iraqis, his father said.

His son talked about wanting them to share the same freedoms as Americans, he said.

Don't tell me me what the best way to honor a fallen hero is - what do you do to honor them except post your hatred for our president and everything and everybody else on the DIS board!
 
what do you do to honor them except post your hatred for our president and everything and everybody else on the DIS board!

What I do to honor the troops is none of your business and I feel no need to post it publicly so I'll get pats on the back and be told what a great person I am.
 
peachgirl said:
What I do is to honor the troops is none of your business and I feel no need to post it publicly so I'll get pats on the back and be told what a great person I am.


well, I'll pat you on the back for this post!! ;)
 
peachgirl said:
.... but the honest thing to do and a better way to honor a fallen soldier is to be honest about what happened and what he thought.

How do you square this with:

"...But in the end, the family decided against such talk, deferring to how they believed Casey would have wanted them to act.
 
What I want to say to you is not DIS friendly. So I'll leave it at - you make me sick.

I post positive stories that other people enjoy reading - not for pats on the back. Supporting our military is something that I feel extremely passionate about....sorry if you don't.
 
possibly it's how some people deal with grief. they may very well support the military and because of that and their beliefs this war is wrong, in their grief for a fallen soldier, their disgust with the war comes out. I just don't think that is so wrong....
 
transparant said:
I post positive stories that other people enjoy reading - not for pats on the back. Supporting our military is something that I feel extremely passionate about....sorry if you don't.

Uh huh....

The fact is the stranger whose funeral you went to didn't want to be in that war anymore. He felt let down by his government and the military.
Still, he honored his commitment. Still, he loved his country even though he disagreed with those in charge.

It's just a fact, sorry that it doesn't fit into your romanticized idea of war.
 
bsnyder said:
How do you square this with:

Are you saying it's better to lie?


And gee, I don't know.....you want to give me a link or a clue as to where you found that sentence?
 
Sorry...is it Peachgirl or Preachgirl?

Uh huh....

The fact is the stranger whose funeral you went to didn't want to be in that war anymore. He felt let down by his government and the military.
Still, he honored his commitment. Still, he loved his country even though he disagreed with those in charge.

It's just a fact, sorry that it doesn't fit into your romanticized idea of war.

What the hell does that have to do with me going to a Soldiers funeral to pay respects today? I love how you have to put "stranger" into your wording also.

I knew how this soldier felt - and I still showed up to honor and respect both him and his family just the same way I've gone to funeral of those who still support this war. Don't tell me that I "romanticise" about war.

I'm done arguing with you Peachgirl - you aren't worth it.

I'm not arguing with you anymore Peachgirl....you aren't worth it.
 
peachgirl said:
Are you saying it's better to lie?


And gee, I don't know.....you want to give me a link or a clue as to where you found that sentence?

Of course, I'm not saying it's better to lie.

The quote is from the Vacaville Reporter article that was written in 2004 after the Sheehans meeting with President Bush.

http://www.thereporter.com/republished

That quote, along with the anecdotal evidence of Casey's reinlistment and the fact that no other family members have stood by Cindy Sheehan in Crawford lead me to believe that Casey Sheehan would not want his death used, by his mother, to make a political statement for the anti-war movement.
 
Sorry...is it Peachgirl or Preachgirl?

Are you making fun of me because I choose to include a religious reference in my signature? Do you have a problem with people showing their faith publicly?


Btw, other than a slight spelling change, your user name fits you perfectly.
 
bsnyder said:
Of course, I'm not saying it's better to lie.

The quote is from the Vacaville Reporter article that was written in 2004 after the Sheehans meeting with President Bush.

Ok, gotcha..

Wasn't that very, very soon after her son's death?

Frankly, I wouldn't give much credence to anything she said at that point in time. I'm not sure I would have been able to string 2 coherent sentences together if I had been her.

And there have been many family members that support her. Take a look at her website...her daughter has been especially vocal.
 
transparant said:
I post positive stories that other people enjoy reading - not for pats on the back. Supporting our military is something that I feel extremely passionate about....sorry if you don't.

You are such an inspiration to us on the conservative thread and on the DIS!!! :grouphug:

I also loved the pics of your "little soldier" :cloud9: . Keep up the good work and don't let the turkeys get you down. ;)

P.S. - because of your info. my office has sponsered 10 soldiers and we have a blast sending stuff every week! :goodvibes
 
bsnyder said:
Of course, I'm not saying it's better to lie.

The quote is from the Vacaville Reporter article that was written in 2004 after the Sheehans meeting with President Bush.

http://www.thereporter.com/republished

That quote, along with the anecdotal evidence of Casey's reinlistment and the fact that no other family members have stood by Cindy Sheehan in Crawford lead me to believe that Casey Sheehan would not want his death used, by his mother, to make a political statement for the anti-war movement.

Bet ... they don't get it... Now she's saying that she didn't make statements against Isreal - but when she was confronted with the truth she's still denies it.. she's been recorded over and over in the company of the very far left - she's said incredibly nasty and inflammatory things - and as usual leftist policy has tried to "turn that around" claiming that is what she was getting from the right. :rolleyes:

I'll be attending the Move America Forward Rally on the 27th... they're having a caravan from California... I've heard it is still on in that Cindy's spokesperson has said that she expects to return to "camp cindy" in 24-48 hours... and even if she doesn't the caravan is expecting to go.
 
peachgirl said:
Ok, gotcha..

Wasn't that very, very soon after her son's death?

Frankly, I wouldn't give much credence to anything she said at that point in time. I'm not sure I would have been able to string 2 coherent sentences together if I had been her.

And there have been many family members that support her. Take a look at her website...her daughter has been especially vocal.
Is her daughter with her? I've not seen anyone of her family speak out publically for what she is doing.

Apparently her husband's family has issued a press release denouncing what what she has done.
 
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