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Attacking Cindy Sheehan
By John Nichols, The Nation
Posted on August 18, 2005, Printed on August 18, 2005
http://www.alternet.org/story/24280/
While debating conservative pundit David Horowitz on Ron Reagan's MSNBC show the other night, I was struck by the desperation with which supporters of the war have turned their fury on Cindy Sheehan, the mother of an American soldier killed in Iraq who has been trying to get an audience with President Bush.

Horowitz, the former left-wing zealot who is now a right-wing zealot, described the woman who has camped out near Bush's Crawford, Texas, ranch as "hateful," accused her of dishonoring the memory of her son and promised that if Sheehan and other anti-war activists succeed in bringing an end to the occupation of Iraq then "rivers of blood" will flow in the streets of America. It was a remarkable performance, so much so that even Horowitz admitted that he was "emotional" about the subject.

Of course, Horowitz is wrong, on every point. But it is difficult to get angry with him, or even to take his ranting seriously. When Reagan asked me if I wanted to "dignify" Horowitz's comments with a response, I declined, except to express a measure of sympathy for Horowitz and other true believers who have become so frenzied in their need to defend the Iraq imbroglio that they feel they must attack a grieving mother who wants to make sure that no more parents will have to bury their sons and daughters as a result of the Bush administration's arrogance.

The rapidly dwindling minority of Americans who continue to search for some rationale for keeping U.S. troops in Iraq has been driven to the brink of breakdown by the success of Sheehan's protest. Go to the website of William F. Buckley's National Review magazine and you will find Sheehan described in headlines as "nutty," dismissed by columnists as "the mouthpiece... of howling-at-the-moon, bile-spewing Bush haters" and accused of "sucking up intellectual air" that, presumably, would be better utilized by Condoleezza Rice explaining once more that it would be wrong to read too much into the August 6, 2001, briefing document that declared: "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the U.S." Human Events, the conservative weekly newspaper, dismisses Sheehan as a "professional griever" who "can claim to be in perpetual mourning for her fallen son" -- as if there is some time limit on maternal sorrow over the death of a child.

Fox News Channel spinner-in-chief Bill O'Reilly accuses Sheehan of being "in bed with the radical left," including -- horrors! -- "9-11 families" that are still seeking answers about whether, in the first months of 2001, the Bush administration was more focused on finding excuses to attack Iraq than on protecting Americans from terrorism. And Rush Limbaugh was on the radio the other day ranting about how, "(Sheehan's) story is nothing more than forged documents. There's nothing about it that's real..." (Just to clarify for Limbaugh listeners: Cindy Sheehan's 24-year-old son Casey really did die in Iraq, and his mother really would like to talk with President Bush about all those claims regarding WMDs and al-Qaida ties that the administration used to peddle the "case" for war.)

The pro-war pundits who continue to defend the occupation of Iraq are freaked out by the fact that a grieving mother is calling into question their claim that the only way to "support the troops" is by keeping them in the frontlines of George W. Bush's failed experiment. Bush backers are horrified that Sheehan's sincere and patriotic anti-war voice has captured the nation's attention.

What the pro-war crowd does not understand is that Cindy Sheehan is not inspiring opposition to the occupation. She is merely putting a face on the mainstream sentiments of a country that has stopped believing the president's promises with regard to Iraq. According to the latest Newsweek poll, 61 percent of Americans disapprove of Bush's handing of the war, while just 26 percent support the president's argument that large numbers of U.S. military personnel should remain in Iraq for as long as it takes to achieve the administration's goals there.

The supporters of this war have run out of convincing lies and effective emotional appeals. Now, they are reduced to attacking the grieving mothers of dead soldiers. Samuel Johnson suggested that patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. But, with their attacks on Cindy Sheehan, the apologists for George Bush's infamy have found a new and darker refuge.

John Nichols is The Nation's Washington correspondent.


© 2005 Independent Media Institute. All rights reserved.
View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/story/24280/
 
A Soldier Speaks: Jason Gunn
By Celina R. De Leon, AlterNet
Posted on August 18, 2005, Printed on August 18, 2005
http://www.alternet.org/story/24072/
Editor's Note: As of August 17, 2005, 1,852 American troops and between 22,500 to 100,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed in the war in Iraq. Domestically, the bill for the war has reached $204.6 billion.

This is the third in a continued series of profiles of some of the tens of thousands of Iraq War veterans who have come home bearing the scars of battle -- emotional and physical wounds that may never heal unless the nation pays them the attention and care that they deserve. We at AlterNet believe it is the one issue that can and must bring us all together as America.

Jason Gunn, 26, of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania finished his eight-year contract with the Army at the end of June. He plans never to re-enlist.

Jason was stationed in Baghdad, Fallujah and Karbala. His unit, 137th Armor or "The Bandits," was responsible for the takeover of Karbala. He first enlisted with the Army in 1997 to help pay for college, and was deployed to Iraq in May 2003. Jason now works for a catering company, attends Veterans for Peace meetings with his mom, and goes to therapy for his Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, which he got from his service in Iraq.

He spoke to AlterNet on July 11, 2005.

What were you told were the reasons for the war in Iraq when you first began your duty?

I was told we were going to Iraq to overthrow Saddam Hussein and to help the people of the new Iraq rebuild themselves and the new Iraq.

What did you think about these reasons initially?

I didn't agree with these reasons in the beginning. And I didn't agree with these reasons even when I was over there.

How did you get and maintain the strength to keep fighting in a war you didn't believe in?

I made it through because of my friends ... I lost three friends, including two really close friends. One was killed in my truck, when we were hit by an IED [Improvised Exploding Device]. I was out of Iraq for four months recovering in the hospital. And then they sent me back. It was just a lot of terrible things. When you see that much death -- you know, I've seen enough death to last a lifetime. No one should have to see that much.

Did you ever express dissent?

I expressed my dislike for the war all the time. I would say that I hated it. I didn't believe it was the right thing to do. The whole country and the American soldiers should not be over there fighting a war for someone who wants to make a quick buck. I don't want to be hired over there to protect somebody else's assets.

Did any other soldiers in your unit express dissent?

All of the soldiers expressed the same beliefs. But we had to do our work. Either that or be dishonorably discharged.


Did you interact with any local Iraqis? How was that experience?

Some of the Iraqis are actually happy that you're there. Other ones are cut-throats. They say one thing and then turn around and stab you in the back another day.

Were you ever informed of an exit strategy?

They said the day we go home is the day we go home.

Do you think there is a need for an exit strategy?

There should be an exit strategy from the minute you get the order you have to be deployed. You should get a timeline of when you're leaving and when you're coming home. No extensions. None of that crap.

Why do you think there are extensions?

They have extensions because they are ill-prepared with everything that is happening. They have no idea what they're doing.

What do you think about Secretary Rumsfeld's projection that we could be in Iraq for another 12 years?

The only reason they say we're going to be there 12 more years is so they can have more time -- more leniency -- for how they're going to pull out. They're buying themselves more time so they can come up with a better strategy to get more money from that country.

Do you remember your feelings on your last day of active duty?

On my last day ... I was glad to get the hell out of there. I wouldn't have to see any [more] of my friends get killed.

How was your homecoming back in the states?

It was different. It's weird driving down a street and not having to worry about someone shooting at you or an IED going off. It's the same thing when you're walking down the street looking at new people. You're constantly looking at their hands, and seeing who's around, and looking at buildings.

Are you getting the services you need to transition back into civilian life?

They say they have the means to help soldiers transition back into the world but they don't. I do have someone [I see]. When I got hurt in Iraq -- the doctor told them that I needed to stay in Germany for treatment for my injuries and for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. My unit blew it off, and said I had to come back [to Iraq] now. And when I got there -- they said I had to write a letter saying I came back on my own will.

Is there anything you would like to add -- something that you feel is not being covered by the media?


The media tends to make what the soldiers are doing there seem wrong. And like when the Marine shot the unarmed Iraqi -- the media blew it all up, saying we were out there murdering people. You have to understand, when you're in that country, in that situation, some of the people there do really cut-throat things. And every day could be your last day ... Those soldiers who did what they did -- shoot unarmed Iraqis, and now they're going to jail ... No, I think those soldiers did what they had to do to protect themselves from the people around them. And I think the media blew everything out of proportion and caused those soldiers their careers -- and their reputations. I hate the fact that the media is even over there. Some of them tried to talk with me but I wouldn't let them. ...

They're not there to help the American people, or to help the soldiers. They're looking for any dirt -- what sells is dirt. That's all they're looking for. Grimy stories, and stuff that makes the U.S. Army look bad is what they're looking for. The soldiers that are over there are fighting every day to survive. They're not over there for patriotism, or trying to be Americans fighting terrorists -- they're not doing that. They're over there because the U.S. Army wants them over there, and they're there to protect themselves and their friends. No honor or patriotism over there whatsoever. They just want to come home. They're not doing this for God and country. The soldiers just want to come home.

Looking back, is there anything you wish you knew, that you weren't told?

I wish we knew that they were going to lift the curfew for Ramadan. I wish we knew about that. And I wish we knew we were going to have un-armored Humvees the whole time we were over there. And that we were going to be ill-equipped the entire time we were over there. And that we weren't going to start getting anything till the last two months that we were there. A lot of soldiers had to pay out of their own pockets to get bites for their rifles, flashlights, equipment. And you don't get reimbursed.

Is there anything else you would like to add?

Yeah, I wish I could have my friends back.

Celina R. De Leon is a social justice journalist based in Brooklyn, NY.

© 2005 Independent Media Institute. All rights reserved.
View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/story/24072/
 

transparant said:
I have no idea what you find so funny. If it's me...than I'm glad you got a laugh at my expense.

Your original comment: :sad2:

That's not "disgusting condescension" ?

Nope...Nothing funny there. :rolleyes1
 
wvrevy said:
Your original comment: :sad2:

That's not "disgusting condescension" ?

Nope...Nothing funny there. :rolleyes1

After the day I've had...I could care less. Like I said - glad you got a laugh at my expense.
 
BuckNaked said:
Yeah, an average of 2 posts per day...I'm really burning it up, aren't I?

It looks like this week your average is over 12 posts a day on the DIS, and today isn't even over yet. True, some posts were made outside of work, but the DIS Board isn't the only board out there.

Does your department have a policy about this? If you do work for the federal government, as a taxpayer I do have a problem with it.
 
swilphil said:
It looks like this week your average is over 12 posts a day on the DIS, and today isn't even over yet. True, some posts were made outside of work, but the DIS Board isn't the only board out there.

Yes, one of the slow weeks.

Actually, I'd be interested to know how you think you know which of my posts are during my work hours and which aren't...
 
swilphil said:
It looks like this week your average is over 12 posts a day on the DIS, and today isn't even over yet. True, some posts were made outside of work, but the DIS Board isn't the only board out there.

Does your department have a policy about this? If you do work for the federal government, as a taxpayer I do have a problem with it.

I'm sure some of the 12,000 plus hits this thread has received includes alot of lurkers. I wonder how they feel about a taxpayer paid employee squandering their dollars so Brenda can surf during working hours.
 
She is leaving, her mom has had a stroke..... Hope everything turns out OK for her mom...
 
I hope everything goes well for her mom - it would be awful to lose a child and a parent in such a short time.
 
BuckNaked said:
Yes, one of the slow weeks.

Actually, I'd be interested to know how you think you know which of my posts are during my work hours and which aren't...

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they are all from work.
 
Brenda, you always seem to get on the DIS police nerves. I wonder if that would be the case if you agreed with them! :rolleyes1
 
What the Heck said:
Brenda, you always seem to get on the DIS police nerves. I wonder if that would be the case if you agreed with them! :rolleyes1

I highly doubt it. :rotfl2:

As I've already been told that my work is unimportant and that I contribute nothing, I'm not sure why a few seem to care so much.

swilphil said:
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they are all from work.

Nope. As I said, it depends on the workload.
 
Peter Pirate said:
You're blinded by the right pamlet...Some people believe NO Country is worth dying for. DYING! As in gone FOREVER! These people are called pacifists and it doesn't mean they are bad or don't love our Country, but simply believe, perhaps much different from you, that NO war is worth dying in.

Further, calling the government repugnant is denigrating to the troops? How so? She would like all of the troops to come home alive, more than heir bush apparently because he still has no plan to get them out.
pirate:

Interesting juxtaposition, don't ya think?
 
peachgirl said:
I believe that since she's his mother and I have no doubt she loved him deeply that she knows what her son would have thought and that's enough for me.

(probably covered already buy worth repeating anyway...)

Really? She must have had amnesia and forgot he reenlisted. Do you really think he would like the way his mother is "honoring" his death?
 
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