Budget Busted Ready to cry

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Okay guys--send me some Ebay and Garage Sale Pixie Dust!!!!!

 

[Goobergal99]

I prepared myself in advance for the comments, however I still don't believe that you have to donate money in order to practice faith. I also stand by my belief that some of the people that believe so devoutly sound like brain controlled robots. Therefore, all of you quoting the bible as reason for your convictions, means absolutely nothing to me.

 

[crisi]

Best of luck, Lisa.

Tithe if it is important to you. Cut the less important things before you cut the important stuff.

I'd just like to point out that the thought that God can be bought is really offensive to me. As is the thought that God isn't looking out for me because I don't tithe. I understand some people think its a calling and a required part of faith, but I think you'd be hard pressed to prove cause and effect here. Do it because it makes you feel good, because it makes you a better person, because your Church puts it to good use. Don't do it to buy your way into heaven or to reap rewards here on Earth.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Originally posted by Goobergal99
I prepared myself in advance for the comments, however I still don't believe that you have to donate money in order to practice faith. I also stand by my belief that some of the people that believe so devoutly sound like brain controlled robots. Therefore, all of you quoting the bible as reason for your convictions, means absolutely nothing to me.

I'm the only one who quoted you and I didn't quote the Bible.
My question for you is, do you give to charity at all even if you choose not to give to your church. The way I look at it, I receive benefits from my church from the money I give them--they turn around and spend it back on is in a variety of ways by their buildings, ministries, et cetera. Much in the same way your govt controlled taxes go to support community centers in your area-so that you can enjoy the benefits of those centers for free or reduced costs.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Originally posted by crisi
Best of luck, Lisa.

Tithe if it is important to you. Cut the less important things before you cut the important stuff.

I'd just like to point out that the thought that God can be bought is really offensive to me. As is the thought that God isn't looking out for me because I don't tithe. I understand some people think its a calling and a required part of faith, but I think you'd be hard pressed to prove cause and effect here. Do it because it makes you feel good, because it makes you a better person, because your Church puts it to good use. Don't do it to buy your way into heaven or to reap rewards here on Earth.

I am not trying to buy my way out of anything or into anywhere. We just happen to notice some cause and effects of our efforts. The raise my husband got this year is the highest he's gotten in several years. I am able to follow a diet that I am happy with and enjoy. My health has improved. Et Cetera. There is nothing wrong for seeing positive consequences to your actions. Much like you work hard at work--hopefully b/c you have a good work ethic. You recieve a bonus or a compliment--that drives your fire to continue working hard, not necessarily makes you work out just so you can receive those rewards.

I was trying to find out what others have done in similar situations--you got yourself into a spot, what did you do to get out of it. In my situation--we had chosen to tithe, but it did not cause our debt. If anything, home improvement--a longer than necessary unusable kitchen that required eating out, damage to our porch that was discovered when we were having our pool built et cetera.

I was trying to justify removing the tithe to temporarily "fix" our present situation as that was the biggest chunk without having to make any other sacrifices. In other words, an easy fix instead of a sacrificial adjustment. If I remove my "tithe"--I cannot donate to my present charity, we cannot support those who do not have the means to give there family even a modest Christmas, we can't support anything at all except our selfish habits in our home.

I appreciate the responses and again I will say I have made my decision. I respect everyone's point of view--and appreciate those who do the tithe and those who choose not to.

THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED ADEQUATELY AND THIS WILL BE MY LAST POST ON THIS THREAD. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE! HAPPY DISing!

 

[Goobergal99]

listen, you need to do what you believe is right. However, i think that working outside of the home and cutting down on your church donations are probably your best bet for living comfortably and not having to make sacrfices. Life is way to short to worry about paying your way into heaven. Make life here count because it is a guarantee. The afterlife is merely an unproven possibility.

And yes, I do donate money to charaties (AIDS fund, Breast cancer Foundation, purple heart, Veterans of Foreign wars, etc....) And guess what! I don't ask for anything in return for it, I don't even write it off on my taxes!!!

 

[Goobergal99]

Oh ok, so I guess all of the vietnam vets that are now homeless "Reaped what they sowed" Anyone could lose their job and become homeless at any minute. None of us are as sound as we believe we are finanically and therefore a post like that is totally uncalled for and just adds one more reason for me to keep believeing that religion is pschologically destructive.

Oh well, I guess I better start studying the bible tonight so that I will be rescued by the almighty in the afterlife. I mean why don't we really start getting elemetary here and believe every other biblical myth there is: I have to run and tell my daughter not to sneak those cookies because God is stading at the pearly white gates with his book of judegements!


"Keep thy religion to thy self" ---George Carlin

 

[figment27]

Hello Lisa,
Been there, done that! I certainly do empathize with your situation.
Did you ever consider selling on eBay? I don't know if others have suggested it to you as I have not had the time to read EVERY post.
Kids clothes, in good condition, sell well and you will receive more than you would at a tag/rummage/garage sale. Less time intensive also.
In addition, toys also sell well, such as Playskook, Fisher Price, Little Tykes.
Bigger items can be posted as "local pick-up only"
Good luck, and know this is only a TEMPORARy situation.
Best Regards,
Figment

 

[HookedOnDiz]

Originally posted by Carrie Ellis


I would consider putting that $1200 into your equity loan if you could still. This happens to probably about everyone one time or another...you just learn not to do it again.

Not a great idea... she has an interest free loan that is an unsecured debt... to replace it with a secured debt (home equity loan) with interest is risky. The worst that can happen if you fail to pay your credit card is that you get a black mark on your credit history... fail to pay back your home equity loan and you could be sleeping on the street.

 

[Robinrs]

Closed by request of the OP.

God bless....

Robinrs