Bristol Palin and DWTS results

well said!

If we don't hold the girls and the parents accountable - then we are saying this kind of heinous behavior are fine!!!! I agree this is learned and condoned in the home!

If they are capable of this, merely because someone commented that the show was failing, what are they capable of over something truly serious??! What have they seen or experienced int he home that would foster this kind of hatred?

I always tell my DD to feel sorry for the bullys in part. You just don't know what their private life is like and what they have experienced there to make them so hateful and to feel so badly about themselves that they act out this way.

First of all you are throwing around the word bully and thats not what these girls did. They made horrible derogatory comments but that is nowhere near the same thing as actual bullying. Second, you keep refering to how these kids were raised, but you do realize that at some point a parents influence is gone, and kids will be kids. Thats not excusing their behavior, but its just a fact of life that kids, and young adults make stupid decisions, amd mistakes. They do things like call people horrible names when they are angry about something, but it certainly doesn't mean that this kind of stuff has been condoned in the home. It also doesn't mean that they are capable of doing something much worse. Unless you have spent time living with the Palins you have no idea how they raised their kids.

As for Bristol going to college, she's still young and its still an option but at least she is making a living. SHe gets paid for DWTS, ans she recieves payment for her speaking engagements and it looks she has started her own company, a public relations firm.

To the poster who commented about 1st children going to college, if you were speaking about Bristol, she is the 2nd child.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: You said First children, not 1st :headache:
 
I edited my post about First chilren, I totally misread that post :laughing:

liberalprincess, I know what bullying is, my ds was the target for a bully for an entire school year, and because of what we went through I hardly consider a one time lash out in anger towards someone actual bullying.
 
I edited my post about First chilren, I totally misread that post :laughing:

liberalprincess, I know what bullying is, my ds was the target for a bully for an entire school year, and because of what we went through I hardly consider a one time lash out in anger towards someone actual bullying.

I am so sorry your child had to go through that. However, whether it is one time or one hundred, it doesn't change bullying behavior.
 
First of all you are throwing around the word bully and thats not what these girls did. They made horrible derogatory comments but that is nowhere near the same thing as actual bullying. Second, you keep refering to how these kids were raised, but you do realize that at some point a parents influence is gone, and kids will be kids. Thats not excusing their behavior, but its just a fact of life that kids, and young adults make stupid decisions, amd mistakes. They do things like call people horrible names when they are angry about something, but it certainly doesn't mean that this kind of stuff has been condoned in the home. It also doesn't mean that they are capable of doing something much worse. Unless you have spent time living with the Palins you have no idea how they raised their kids.

As for Bristol going to college, she's still young and its still an option but at least she is making a living. SHe gets paid for DWTS, ans she recieves payment for her speaking engagements and it looks she has started her own company, a public relations firm.

To the poster who commented about 1st children going to college, if you were speaking about Bristol, she is the 2nd child.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: You said First children, not 1st :headache:

have you read what they said? It was low and they are classless. Calling someone fat and the names they did is certainly an excellent example of bullying!!!!!! And as the article I read said - just because they are young and prone to mistakes doesn't make it any less SHAMELESS!!!!

there is no way you can explain or excuse it away!!!!!!
 

I am so sorry your child had to go through that. However, whether it is one time or one hundred, it doesn't change bullying behavior.

I have a different opinion of what bullying is. What they did was mean, nasty, and a million other things but I don't see this one incident as bullying. Obviously you see it differently, but I really hate the way people are so quick to throw around the bully tag just because someone does something mean.
 
I have a different opinion of what bullying is. What they did was mean, nasty, and a million other things but I don't see this one incident as bullying. Obviously you see it differently, but I really hate the way people are so quick to throw around the bully tag just because someone does something mean.

I agree that bullying is used too often. However you have a teenager and her non-teen older sister going after a teen for an opinion on a tv show. With homophobic language and abusive comments about him. Sorry, no way that is not bullying. This was not about mean. It was abusive and ignorant on the kid's home page.
 
have you read what they said? It was low and they are classless. Calling someone fat and the names they did is certainly an excellent example of bullying!!!!!! And as the article I read said - just because they are young and prone to mistakes doesn't make it any less SHAMELESS!!!!

there is no way you can explain or excuse it away!!!!!!

Have you read what I said????
 
I agree that bullying is used too often. However you have a teenager and her non-teen older sister going after a teen for an opinion on a tv show. With homophobic language and abusive comments about him. Sorry, no way that is not bullying. This was not about mean. It was abusive and ignorant on the kid's home page.

You are right, it was abusive and ignorant and what I would call a lash out, but its not bullying in the sense that I see it, which is ongoing torment. Is it something a bully would do, yes, but that doesn't make what they did bullying. You see it differently, and thats OK, we don't have to agree.

This quote sums up what I see bullying as:
"A person is bullied when he or she is exposed, repeatedly and over time, to negative actions on the part of one or more other persons, and he or she has difficulty defending himself or herself."

http://www.olweus.org/public/bullying.page
 
according to the article I read - it was ongoing with at least one poster. - the one who said the show was failing....it wasn't the first time they had a go around on Facebook.

Besided, it shouldn't have to happen more than once when those kind of words are used.

even if you don't call it "bullying" it is no less heinous....I couldn't believe the language and nasty little attitude.....such nice girls, indeed! No doubt in my mind this runs much deeper than a little mistake. It is bad enough when the 16 year old did it, but when the 20 year old chimes in instead of correcting the younger one - yikes!!!!
 
even if you don't call it "bullying" it is no less heinous....I couldn't believe the language and nasty little attitude.....such nice girls, indeed! No doubt in my mind this runs much deeper than a little mistake. It is bad enough when the 16 year old did it, but when the 20 year old chimes in instead of correcting the younger one - yikes!!!!

You know, that is what struck me too...

Bristol is FAR old enough to know better, and should be WISE enough to know that she - and her mom - are in the public eye, and that Facebook is NOT private. I would have expected someone of her age and (one would hope) intelligence to chime in with something that would diffuse the situation. Something like "Ok, guys, that'll be enough of that.. knock it off Willow, that isn't appropriate."

She could have found a way, at her age, to let the other kid know they disagreed with him, AND tell her little sis to mind her P's & Q's, all at the same time, and come off looking A LOT better than she did.
 
according to the article I read - it was ongoing with at least one poster. - the one who said the show was failing....it wasn't the first time they had a go around on Facebook.

Besided, it shouldn't have to happen more than once when those kind of words are used.

even if you don't call it "bullying" it is no less heinous....I couldn't believe the language and nasty little attitude.....such nice girls, indeed! No doubt in my mind this runs much deeper than a little mistake. It is bad enough when the 16 year old did it, but when the 20 year old chimes in instead of correcting the younger one - yikes!!!!

I agree, but I'm not going to throw stones in my glass house.
 
I agree, but I'm not going to throw stones in my glass house.

luckily, I don't live in that particular glass house. My DD isn't capable of that kind of nastiness - not just my opinion but her teachers and instructors have commented to me that she doesn't have a "mean bone in her body" and similar. Not perfect by a long shot, but I am as sure as I can be that I don't have to worry about this nastiness or similar from her. She would NEVER use the particular words that were used or bully.

As I said, kids who do this should be pitied - there is no telling what has gone on in their home/personal lives to lead to this.
 
Did any of you read the actual screen shots of the conversation? No bullying going on, just some teenager smack talk. I love how the articles and comments I've made it read sounded like the other "kids" were being bashed by the Palin kids - not it AT ALL. Equally abusive language used by the others involved in the conversation.

Bristol apologized today, and her younger sister's fb has been deleted. The Palin parents' punishment for their 16 year old has not been publicly announced.

http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/1116_palin.pdf
 
just teenage smack talk? Wow - it is sad that anyone can dismiss it so lightly.

No wonder you all think this is just some little mistake! I don't care who is doing it - it is heinous. No wonder kids have no problem with it - the adults all dismiss it as just teen smack talk.

just because the others are dishing it out too - doesn't excuse the girls from being so nasty and disgusting.....

that clearly isn't the sweet, cute, little miss american pie that they are trying to portray on DWTS - that is sure! Which one do you think is the true Bristol, which is the true nature of this girl? She can wear all the high cut, cover up costumes she wants - there is more than one way to be a nasty little thing!!!!!
 
just teenage smack talk? Wow - it is sad that anyone can dismiss it so lightly.

No wonder you all think this is just some little mistake! I don't care who is doing it - it is heinous. No wonder kids have no problem with it - the adults all dismiss it as just teen smack talk.

just because the others are dishing it out too - doesn't excuse the girls from being so nasty and disgusting.....

Of course not because its Sarah's children and a reflection of her :rolleyes: its another reason to hate the woman. I am not condoning either's behavior. I also think its a far stretch to consider this "bullying" unless you also consider the boy who did the complaining as a bully.

I don't have a horse in this race but I am surprised at all the hate for a strong woman. While my dh is a somewhat fan of hers, she doesn't sit well with me, I'm still surprised at some of the posts.
 
Of course not because its Sarah's children and a reflection of her :rolleyes: its another reason to hate the woman. I am not condoning either's behavior. I also think its a far stretch to consider this "bullying" unless you also consider the boy who did the complaining as a bully.

I don't have a horse in this race but I am surprised at all the hate for a strong woman. While my dh is a somewhat fan of hers, she doesn't sit well with me, I'm still surprised at some of the posts.

you don't have to hate the woman to feel this way about what the kids are doing. I don't hate her. I can't go into what I feel because that would have to cross over into politics. I do believe the actions of the kids reflect on her in a big way!
 
Wow, and I was told I live in a fantasy world :lmao:

This. I keep thinking I need to put my house on the market and move to where all these people live who have perfect kids, thoughts, feelings etc.....And know exactly what their child is thinking and doing every second of the day.

Not a Palin fan by a long shot, but all I can hear in my head when I read some of these posts are uptight, shrill voices. " MY child would NEVER do such a thing!!" Haha. Fantasy? Meet Reality.
 
This. I keep thinking I need to put my house on the market and move to where all these people live who have perfect kids, thoughts, feelings etc.....And know exactly what their child is thinking and doing every second of the day.

Not a Palin fan by a long shot, but all I can hear in my head when I read some of these posts are uptight, shrill voices. " MY child would NEVER do such a thing!!" Haha. Fantasy? Meet Reality.

It has nothing to do with perfect kids. However, knowing what they are writing on Facebook and knowing my kids aren't posting homophobic slurs is something else. And that is called parenting.
 

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